Repeal the 17th Amendment

[RETIREDFAN1]

This nation will not be able to return to the status of a true federal republic as our Founders intended, until the 17th Amendment is repealed and the selection of Senators is returned to the State Legislatures. The Founders intended for the Senate to be the body of Congress that represented the states. With the 17th Amendment, the Senate is no different from the House. What is needed is an Article V convention with the express purpose of repealing the 17th amendment and returning the selection of Senators back to the original intent of the Founders

[NDNTime]

Stop making sense!

[RETIREDFAN1]

Stop making sense!

:P

[tvc184]

This nation will not be able to return to the status of a true federal republic as our Founders intended, until the 17th Amendment is repealed and the selection of Senators is returned to the State Legislatures. The Founders intended for the Senate to be the body of Congress that represented the states. With the 17th Amendment, the Senate is no different from the House. What is needed is an Article V convention with the express purpose of repealing the 17th amendment and returning the selection of Senators back to the original intent of the Founders

 

Without regard to what system we use and not disagreeing with your premise.......

 

Your argument seems invalid by invoking the Constitution and its original intent as a reason to repeal the amendment. 

 

You say correctly that the Constitution set it up for state legislatures to elect its own Senators. But...... the same Constitution also makes amendments possible in case people's opinions of what the law or rights should be change. Apparently the people made their decision. Those same people also ended slavery by amendment, guaranteed due process for "everyone", the right to keep and bear arms, limit how many times a person can be the president, guaranteed the right to privacy and so on. Which ones of those that are not in the Constitution do you want to give up and get back to the original intent? 

Again, it is not to disagree with your position but arguing intent of the Constitution as opposed to any amendment seems invalid as an argument when you stack it up against other amendments where there was no original intent. 

[RETIREDFAN1]

Without regard to what system we use and not disagreeing with your premise.......

 

Your argument seems invalid by invoking the Constitution and its original intent as a reason to repeal the amendment. 

 

You say correctly that the Constitution set it up for state legislatures to elect its own Senators. But...... the same Constitution also makes amendments possible in case people's opinions of what the law or rights should be change. Apparently the people made their decision. Those same people also ended slavery by amendment, guaranteed due process for "everyone", the right to keep and bear arms, limit how many times a person can be the president, guaranteed the right to privacy and so on. Which ones of those that are not in the Constitution do you want to give up and get back to the original intent? 

Again, it is not to disagree with your position but arguing intent of the Constitution as opposed to any amendment seems invalid as an argument when you stack it up against other amendments where there was no original intent. 

You are correct, the people of THAT time allowed tyranny to take hold by ratifying this amendment among others...... IF I can get the People of TODAY to see how their ancestors screwed up and allowed tyranny to take hold in 1913, maybe the people of TODAY will make it their choice to repeal it in order to regain liberty..........

[tvc184]

You are correct, the people of THAT time allowed tyranny to take hold by ratifying this amendment among others...... IF I can get the People of TODAY to see how their ancestors screwed up and allowed tyranny to take hold in 1913, maybe the people of TODAY will make it their choice to repeal it in order to regain liberty..........

 

I honestly think that you are going to have a hard time convincing the people that allowing them to vote for their own senator is tyranny. 

[RETIREDFAN1]

I honestly think that you are going to have a hard time convincing the people that allowing them to vote for their own senator is tyranny.

I said it led to the tyranny.....the Senate was set up to represent the interests of the states....the House was set up to represent the interests of the people.....things are out of balance and as more people begin to wake up and see that, I believe that it will be an easy sell......