Money Talks

[NewtonNation]

I like our chances vs you saying we will never win another title.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Let's look at it like this...correct me if I'm wrong; Newton was the last state champ from setx some 10 years ago. Why is that? The rest of the state has left setx in the dust when it comes to facilities, coaching, and anything else along those lines. When Newton and WOS were forced to practice in a gym because of rain, Gilmer and Waskom were practicing on turf or in an indoor. While WOS and Newton pay their head coaches 85k and 70k a year, respectively, Gilmer and Waskom are paying theirs 120k and 85k, respectively. They're called PRIORITIES. Until that changes, setx will not win another state title. You can take that to the bank. Ever heard the ole addage "wins can be bought?" It's very true.

Hey even I didnt wanna believe it before for a long time but you're right on several points though. Heck just look up north and point to Gilmer and Carthage: and they're small school programs. You could probably throw Navasota into that mix as well. 

[Uncle Pig]

I like our chances vs you saying we will never win another title.

Build some state of the art facilities and pay your coaches more and I can promise you yall will win a bunch of titles. The team that beat yall out a few years back, Cameron Yoe, has the nicest 3A facilities in the state. Oh and I'm pretty sure they pay Rhodes 100k

[Uncle Pig]

Hey even I didnt wanna believe it before for a long time but you're right on several points though. Heck just look up north and point to Gilmer and Carthage: and they're small school programs. You could probably throw Navasota into that mix as well.

Absolutely throw Navasota in that mix

[oldschool2]

Money and facilities are 2 tools (among others) that schools use to recruit kids and families.

If a school isn't recruiting (somehow drawing in players) then 2 things are happening.

1. They are losing their kids to schools that do recruit.
2. They are losing.

There are a lot of ways you can recruit.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Money and facilities are 2 tools (among others) that schools use to recruit kids and families.

If a school isn't recruiting (somehow drawing in players) then 2 things are happening.

1. They are losing their kids to schools that do recruit.
2. They are losing.

There are a lot of ways you can recruit.

Sending double digit student athletes to college is another one. 

[NewtonNation]

I agree with the fact that new facilities and schools are a deciding factor if a family is moving and looking for a school that their kids will attend.
I don't agree that you can't win a title without all the bells and whistles.

[Uncle Pig]

I agree with the fact that new facilities and schools are a deciding factor if a family is moving and looking for a school that their kids will attend.
I don't agree that you can't win a title without all the bells and whistles.

You could win one 10-15 years ago without all the bells and whistles..you can't anymore. IMO

[TradinUp BH]

I wish that was true for BH. We have a butt load of money, nice facilities, and about to break ground on an 80 yard indoor practice facility. We haven't been to the playoffs in two years. Maybe we're the exception to the rule.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

I wish that was true for BH. We have a butt load of money, nice facilities, and about to break ground on an 80 yard indoor practice facility. We haven't been to the playoffs in two years. Maybe we're the exception to the rule.

Need to start playing those athletes more over there, are yall getting a new HC soon over there? 

 

 

Problem with BH is those ugly arse uniforms  :lol:  :P

[Uncle Pig]

I wish that was true for BH. We have a butt load of money, nice facilities, and about to break ground on an 80 yard indoor practice facility. We haven't been to the playoffs in two years. Maybe we're the exception to the rule.

Too many helicopter parents there that don't want to let the coaches coach...or so I hear

[JeremyRoberts]

Too many helicopter parents there that don't want to let the coaches coach...or so I hear

More democratic flavor will get you over the hump. BH is a lovely place to raise a family though!!!

[Uncle Pig]

More democratic flavor will get you over the hump. BH is a lovely place to raise a family though!!!

Ha!! +1 my man!!

[Cougar14.2]

I wish that was true for BH. We have a butt load of money, nice facilities, and about to break ground on an 80 yard indoor practice facility. We haven't been to the playoffs in two years. Maybe we're the exception to the rule.

BH's problem is that KP is better than BH and doing what BH does. They have better athletes and maybe even more means than BH. BH might be in trouble for a while. All this growth is supposed to be happening but how many of those families actually have to athletes BH needs to win?

[TradinUp BH]

The 8th grade seems solid, so maybe a little help is coming. Most BH growth is the younger kids (elementary age). You will see the increase in a couple years. I was told 8th grade lost to Northshore by 15 points in track the other. I don't if that's good or not, but sounds like we might a little speed coming up, but who knows.

[oldschool2]

The 8th grade seems solid, so maybe a little help is coming. Most BH growth is the younger kids (elementary age). You will see the increase in a couple years. I was told 8th grade lost to Northshore by 15 points in track the other. I don't if that's good or not, but sounds like we might a little speed coming up, but who knows.

Hard to judge talent based on what they do in younger years. Very well may be a solid 8th grade group...relative to other 8th grade groups. The problem is that when they get to high school they aren't playing other kids just in their respective grade. They're playing against the combination of 4 different grades. Plus...there is so much that changes. District alignments, strength development (of them and their opponents), move ins, coaching changes....

That's what gets people in trouble. "Well we were so good in JH I don't know what happened"

Um...a lot of things happened.

Hopefully it works out. Good luck.

[TradinUp BH]

I agree oldschool, but I'm looking for some positive in our program. We are on the brink of not having any boys teams qualify for playoffs this year. Lol

[Cougar14.2]

Hard to judge talent based on what they do in younger years. Very well may be a solid 8th grade group...relative to other 8th grade groups. The problem is that when they get to high school they aren't playing other kids just in their respective grade. They're playing against the combination of 4 different grades. Plus...there is so much that changes. District alignments, strength development (of them and their opponents), move ins, coaching changes....
That's what gets people in trouble. "Well we were so good in JH I don't know what happened"
Um...a lot of things happened.
Hopefully it works out. Good luck.

BH wins in the younger age groups because of how much they put into it. You won't find many middle school track teams with 5-7 coaches, most have one or two. In youth football BH parents are all in which helps the immediate product on the field. Once they get to high school where that stuff matters less the teams with better athletes start beating BH. The 8th graders you speak of are a prime example. Our 8th graders beat south but lost to north, they also beat Dayton who beat them both. BH wins because they run a user friendly offense for that age group whereas the Crosby and Dayton kids are already throwing the ball 20-30 times per game at that age. This makes our qb throw picks, fumble shotgun snaps and play action fakes, take sacks for holding onto the ball and receivers running the wrong routes, etc.

The difference is that three years later BH is still running the same user friendly offense that much easier to stop because nothing as changed, but the other qbs are much more dangerous now that they're not making the same mistakes as years prior due to the emphasis being on teaching at the younger ages vs just trying to get the W. Now the receivers don't run the wrong routes and the qb doesn't throw picks on Friday's which exposes BH's deficiencies that were covered up at the youth levels. Not to mention the kids have seen the dive play for several years by then and are more adept at stopping it. Until BH increases in enrollment or switches philosophies I don't see much changing for them in this district.

[BMTSoulja1]

Central reached the Regional Final several years ago. Maybe Soulja remembers who they lost to.

2008... Loss to Friendswood...