Tom Brady...

[mytwocents-28]

It would be a hell of a bigger story if it was Vick, ppl would want him banned from the league. :lol:

Yep, and golden boy gets a slap on the wrist.

[bullets13]

Tom Wells was going to find whatever the NFL wanted him to find.  He's being paid by the NFL!
From the article:  "Wells' report, released last week after a months-long investigation, found that it was more probable than not that Brady, the New England Patriots quarterback, was likely aware of the actions of two low-level employees who were responsible for deflating balls used in January's AFC Championship Game."  The bold parts do not sound like very strong evidence of anything!
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2015/05/12/ted-wells-tom-brady-agent-don-yee-deflategate-investigation/27183425/

TrueBlue is Smitty? Smitty is TrueBlue? Many things make sense now!

[bullets13]

Smitty, this isn't a court case. Common sense and tons of circumstantial evidence is MORE than enough to suspend him with. Surely you don't think he's innocent here?

[smitty]

Smitty, this isn't a court case. Common sense and tons of circumstantial evidence is MORE than enough to suspend him with. Surely you don't think he's innocent here?

I think they over reacted because they messed up the Ray Rice situation.   The NFL has no evidence he did anything. 

[bullets13]

I think they over reacted because they messed up the Ray Rice situation. The NFL has no evidence he did anything.

So you're suggesting that the ball boys did this on their own, then sent incriminating texts back and forth in order to frame him?

That being said, I think the punishment is an overreaction, but I'd put the odds of Brady not being behind this whole charade at about .01%

[Peppermint Patty]

So you're suggesting that the ball boys did this on their own, then sent incriminating texts back and forth in order to frame him?
That being said, I think the punishment is an overreaction, but I'd put the odds of Brady not being behind this whole charade at about .01%

They have one side of a text message. Far from a lead pipe cinch.
Like they said, he "probably" did it.

[SKINS]

They have one side of a text message. Far from a lead pipe cinch.
Like they said, he "probably" did it.

That's the clincher, he refuses to give the other side of the text messages. In a scenario like this that is good enough to say guilty.

[bullets13]

That's the clincher, he refuses to give the other side of the text messages. In a scenario like this that is good enough to say guilty.

Yup.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

@MikeGarafolo: Roger Goodell will hear Tom Brady's appeal, NFL confirms @mikefreemanNFL report. NFL release said he "authorized" Troy Vincent's punishment.

 

 

 

 

Welp

[bullets13]

While I believe he was involved, I don't think any part of the NFL's appeals process is fair.

[smitty]

The NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, will be the arbitrator?!  How stinking convenient!!

[TxHoops]

The NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, will be the arbitrator?! How stinking convenient!!

This should never happen IMO. Don't even know why Goodell would want that responsibility. He seems like a "pass the buck" kind of guy to begin with. Even if he wasn't, appoint an independent, neutral arbitrator and let the process play out. He doesn't need anymore criticism at the point for goodness sake.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

This should never happen IMO. Don't even know why Goodell would want that responsibility. He seems like a "pass the buck" kind of guy to begin with. Even if he wasn't, appoint an independent, neutral arbitrator and let the process play out. He doesn't need anymore criticism at the point for goodness sake.

Lol Goodell wants to see to it that his hammer-drop stays dropped. 

[Peppermint Patty]

Lol Goodell wants to see to it that his hammer-drop stays dropped. 

 

I would do some "in home" visits. Make sure his wife is being treated properly.

[smitty]

Lol Goodell wants to see to it that his hammer-drop stays dropped. 

Doesn't pass the smell test!    ;)

[BS Wildcats]

The players signed off on this in the last contract. It's crazy they agreed to it, but Goodell should no way be involved in the appeals process.

[smitty]

I hope Brady strikes back hard.  One cannot accuse another without concrete evidence.  And I haven't seen any yet! 

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_DEFLATED_FOOTBALLS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-16-17-59-35

[baddog]

Isn't all evidence circumstantial unless you have video of Brady deflating the balls himself? Then you would have those that say the video is fake etc......

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

I hope Brady strikes back hard.  One cannot accuse another without concrete evidence.  And I haven't seen any yet! 

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_DEFLATED_FOOTBALLS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-16-17-59-35

@FOXSportsLive: "We won't appeal." -- Patriots owner Robert Kraft #DeflateGate

 

 

Now why wouldn't he appeal?  Maybe because he knows wrongdoing occurred. ;)

[smitty]

@FOXSportsLive: "We won't appeal." -- Patriots owner Robert Kraft #DeflateGate

 

 

Now why wouldn't he appeal?  Maybe because he knows wrongdoing occurred. ;)

Or -- he's offering an olive branch so that when Brady's appeal comes up the Commish will back off some. 

One other thing:  There's another component to this situation that may change the outcome.  Humm, what could that be?!  Thoughts?

[smitty]

Or -- he's offering an olive branch so that when Brady's appeal comes up the Commish will back off some. 

One other thing:  There's another component to this situation that may change the outcome.  Humm, what could that be?!  Thoughts?

This is not the caveat I had in mind but interesting none the less!

 

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/05/19/kornheiser-speculates-patriots-owner-kraft-will-stage-coup-against-nfl-commish/

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

This is not the caveat I had in mind but interesting none the less!

 

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/05/19/kornheiser-speculates-patriots-owner-kraft-will-stage-coup-against-nfl-commish/

Thats highly likely, more likely than anything else. 

[RaiderRed30]

@FOXSportsLive: "We won't appeal." -- Patriots owner Robert Kraft #DeflateGate


Now why wouldn't he appeal? Maybe because he knows wrongdoing occurred. ;)

Read somewhere about the possibility of him suing but the bylaws says he cannot. If he did Goodell could then go about and force him to sell the team. The owners would have to back Goodell obviously and I think with this being the 3rd or 4th they have been caught cheating the owners would have forced a sale.

They appeal Goodell levies same charges and if they sue lose the team. Rock meet Hard Place.

[smitty]

Or -- he's offering an olive branch so that when Brady's appeal comes up the Commish will back off some. 

One other thing:  There's another component to this situation that may change the outcome.  Humm, what could that be?!  Thoughts?

Hummm, nothing?  OK -- here's a hint:  It has to do with money.   

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

I think they over reacted because they messed up the Ray Rice situation.   The NFL has no evidence he did anything. 

@NBCNews: JUST IN: NFL upholds Tom Brady's 4-game suspension

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