South Carolina church shooting

BS Wildcats · June 23, 2015

i dont like the flag for personal reasons but removing a flag not gonna stop ppl from being a racist. I've seen racist ppl fly the American flag high in their yards and with stickers on their vehicles. We gonna remove the American flag?

Just because skinheads use the flag as their symbol, we have to bow down to the groups that want to remove it. The Confederate States of America played a major role in our history, are we going to sweep it under the rug? The liberals in Austin are calling to have a statue of Jefferson Davis removed from the campus of UT. What is next? In case anyone doesn't know, this flag was the flag of a once proud nation. It was not the flag of skinheads, Nazis, or the Aryan brotherhood.

tvc184 · June 23, 2015

just couldn't believe a law enforcement official would pay for a murderer meal because "he was hungry"…… doesn't make bright sense to me, I know I wouldn't do it, he'd have his choice of whats on the menu in lockup, I be damn if I attempt to pay for it.

A few years ago when I was in detectives we were called out to a brutal murder. A guy broke into a home and then raped and murdered a young woman. In the terms of the street, he “lawyered up” and demanded his right to remain
silent.

So he sat there while we booked him and completed some of the paperwork. He was complaining of being hungry so my partner and I, without telling him, went and got him a Quarter Pounder with cheese meal deal. After he ate it and after he finished, he started crying. He started saying how nice we were to him after what he was accused of. He then recanted his request to remain silent. We had to record him saying that it was he that re-initiated conversation because once a person invokes a right, the police cannot even ask him again to reconsider. After a guy says that he wants to remain silent or a lawyer we cannot go back in an hour later and ask if he has changed his mind. Once invoked, the right stands unless “he” changes his mind without prompting.

So he then made a voluntary statement of the entire murder or basically a full confession.

What if we had social media 20 years ago or 24 hour media that is running out of stories and the headlines screamed, "LOCAL OFFICERS BUY BRUTAL KILLER A HAMBURGER". Would the family be mad that we treated this killer nicely in our custody after he very brutally killed a relative? Maybe.

Looking at the results, would they be mad that without any abuse or violating any person’s rights that we were able to get a full confession?

It is easy for those on the outside of an investigation to point fingers when in reality they have
absolutely no knowledge is what is being done or why.

Just like the ongoing investigation of the two escapees in NY, I am sure the woman co-conspirator is
cooperating and not because the cops are being mean and abusive toward her. The old saying goes that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar and sometimes that applies to very serious police investigations. It is like taking a confession from a child molester (what I did for two years) and telling him/her that you understand where
he/she is coming from.

So while it is easy to yell, “OH MY GOD the police bought this despicable person a hamburger!!!”… is it because they felt sorry for him or were simply trying to solve a despicable crime with that honey?

My partner and I were able to help solve a fairly heinous crime doing just what you accuse these officers of not being very bright for doing.

LumRaiderFan · June 23, 2015