LumRaiderFan Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, westend1 said: You do understand that this encompasses a whole lot of Trump voters? Yes, I do. A lot of the Trump folks are backing him because they are tired of the status quo in the GOP and wanted change...fine, so do I. My question to them is if you call yourselves Republicans/Conservatives, why no back someone like Cruz or Paul that are actually close to what the party should stand for. Instead, the are sucked in by Trump's rock star tactics...no real conservative would have backed this guy from the start. Now, we're stuck with him but I will be voting for him because I have no doubt the alternative can only be worse. Englebert and baddog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 10 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Yes, I do. A lot of the Trump folks are backing him because they are tired of the status quo in the GOP and wanted change...fine, so do I. My question to them is if you call yourselves Republicans/Conservatives, why no back someone like Cruz or Paul that are actually close to what the party should stand for. Instead, the are sucked in by Trump's rock star tactics...no real conservative would have backed this guy from the start. Now, we're stuck with him but I will be voting for him because I have no doubt the alternative can only be worse. I have no doubt that trump could be worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 26 minutes ago, new tobie said: I have no doubt that trump could be worse Imagine that!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 43 minutes ago, new tobie said: I have no doubt that trump could be worse He could be worse. About the same odds as winning the lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 I'd just like to know why people say Trump isn't qualified to be president because he has never been involved in politics, yet those same people say Hillary is qualified because she has been in politics most of her adult life, but she screws up royally. How is that grounds for being qualified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, baddog said: I'd just like to know why people say Trump isn't qualified to be president because he has never been involved in politics, yet those same people say Hillary is qualified because she has been in politics most of her adult life, but she screws up royally. How is that grounds for being qualified? Republicans said the same thing about Obama. The community organizer slogan lasted longer than the birther scare tactic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 If Hillary jokef and told Russia to investigate trump pubs would be all over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 The donald said that he could have shot someone on main street snd still have gotten elected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hillary has already lived in the white house for 8yrs. And has a possibility of doing it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, new tobie said: Hillary has already lived in the white house for 8yrs. And has a possibility of doing it again The only joy I will get out of Hillary becoming President is......... The desk she will be sitting at will be the same one Monica was under..... Hagar and Englebert 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 guess next time it will be a Bush's turn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 1 hour ago, new tobie said: If Hillary jokef and told Russia to investigate trump pubs would be all over it It was tongue in cheek. Do you really believe what you say? You haven't figured out Trump yet? My God man. Get some scruples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 56 minutes ago, baddog said: It was tongue in cheek. Do you really believe what you say? You haven't figured out Trump yet? My God man. Get some scruples. Sounds to me like he just reads the Liberal talking points for the day and regurgitates them on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 With all the problrms hillary has with trust and the race is still so close. Obama probably would have mopped the floor with trumps fake hair head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, new tobie said: With all the problrms hillary has with trust and the race is still so close. Obama probably would have mopped the floor with trumps fake hair head Hillary's biggest problem is she just doesn't know how to deliver a speech full of false hope and empty promises. She can say the words, but she can't sell the false narrative like Obama or Bill. She's just too transparent...thus the distrust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, Englebert said: Hillary's biggest problem is she just doesn't know how to deliver a speech full of false hope and empty promises. She can say the words, but she can't sell the false narrative like Obama or Bill. She's just too transparent...thus the distrust. Do you realize how many lies Trump has told and he cannot even speak without using his little hands. Has to wear fake hair so he want look like a creepy old man. And i believe that he's having an affair with Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 14 minutes ago, new tobie said: Do you realize how many lies Trump has told and he cannot even speak without using his little hands. Has to wear fake hair so he want look like a creepy old man. And i believe that he's having an affair with Putin This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, new tobie said: Do you realize how many lies Trump has told and he cannot even speak without using his little hands. Has to wear fake hair so he want look like a creepy old man. And i believe that he's having an affair with Putin Are you actually trying to belittle Trump when the opponent of Trump is the most corrupt nominee in the history of America? One that has a documented history of lying. One that was fired (fired by a lawyer) for unethical practices. The current president has also been caught in multiple lies. And if all you can do is spew out cheap petty shots about his mannerisms and hair, I don't think you are versed enough in the relevant issues to make a discussion remotely compelling. Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Englebert said: Are you actually trying to belittle Trump when the opponent of Trump is the most corrupt nominee in the history of America? One that has a documented history of lying. One that was fired (fired by a lawyer) for unethical practices. The current president has also been caught in multiple lies. And if all you can do is spew out cheap petty shots about his mannerisms and hair, I don't think you are versed enough in the relevant issues to make a discussion remotely compelling. well trump should be running away with the election right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, new tobie said: well trump should be running away with the election right! Nope- the free stuff platform is a proven winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, new tobie said: well trump should be running away with the election right! He would be running away with it if we had an electorate that concentrated on the relevant issues instead of a candidates hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 One advantage Hillary has over Obama is that she will never have the racial hate that Obama has had for 8 years, and Im not talking about the way he handles the presidency, I'm talking about the racist remarks against him ad his family. very uncalled for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, new tobie said: One advantage Hillary has over Obama is that she will never have the racial hate that Obama has had for 8 years, and Im not talking about the way he handles the presidency, I'm talking about the racist remarks against him ad his family. very uncalled for. Rather than generalizing, could you point me toward two or three concrete examples of your claim or did you possibly just spew words that you believe sound good? The reason I am asking is because I would like to compare the treatment of Mr. Obama to the treatment of Mr. Bush toward the end of his Presidency. Help me please. ( this is highly doubtful but maybe someday you will wake up in the real world and understand that many of us dislike Mr. Obamas approach to governing rather than his skin color) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 5 hours ago, new tobie said: One advantage Hillary has over Obama is that she will never have the racial hate that Obama has had for 8 years, and Im not talking about the way he handles the presidency, I'm talking about the racist remarks against him ad his family. very uncalled for. When you can't defend his policies, just throw out the old trusty race card. Too bad that card is getting played unjustifiably way too often and is losing it's luster. And when the white lady called for a moment of silence at the DNC for fallen police officers, she found herself on the receiving end of racial hate. Bernie Sanders had a rally shut down due to racial hate. So I don't Hillary will be completely immune, provided the unspeakable happens and she actually wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I think the scheduled speakers during that first night of the convention may have been an effort to pre-empt any racial hate directed toward her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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