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tvc184

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 I have no clue about trials in that state however I have viewed this video blown up and in slow-motion. It is clearly a justified use of force and it is almost not even debatable. 

 I would not want to be in those officer's shoes in any situation and certainly not in this political climate. 

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We studied this incident in a police school recently and before any charges. This incident went on for several hours. The officers brought in a person trained to deal with people in crisis to try and talk the guy down. It was in a public park where he would be in the vicinity of the public and he had numerous arrests or detentions for violent acts.  

The guy tried to move away and officers closed on him with a dog to try and stop him. The guy's back was turned however as officers neared him at the last couple of seconds, he raised a large knife toward the officers. He was maybe within 8 feet of one officer. See it at full speed from one camera angle it looks like they simply shot the guy in the back. That is what the public has been shown. Zooming in, slowing the video and I believe that we saw a different camera angle, it is easy to see a completely different picture of events. 

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like i've said before: the several bad ones are giving the many good ones a bad name/rep. Thats not a good thing at all. 

the very few bad ones, combined with the media's effort to make it APPEAR that there are several bad ones, is what's giving the countless good ones a bad rap.

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the very few bad ones, combined with the media's effort to make it APPEAR that there are several bad ones, is what's giving the countless good ones a bad rap.

Not to me or any other rational person that uses a little common sense.

Many times the folks that lump all cops in with the very few bad ones have an unfavorable view towards cops to begin with.

We are told to not lump all Muslims, Christians (fill in the blank) in with a few bad ones but this seems to be ok with cops.

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BLUEDOVE3

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Not to me or any other rational person that uses a little common sense.

Many times the folks that lump all cops in with the very few bad ones have an unfavorable view towards cops to begin with.

We are told to not lump all Muslims, Christians (fill in the blank) in with a few bad ones but this seems to be ok with cops.

I don't think most people lump all cops as bad. I think  those you refer to that lump cops as bad  are people who have trust issues with cops, and I'm sure many cops have trust issues when engaging Black men.

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Bullets has ridden with me maybe 40 times on patrol. He has walked in with other officers on family distbances or other situations that might lead to a police confrontation, arrest, fight, etc. I think the only time that I asked him to stay back was a home invasion in progress where there was a reasonable chance of shots being fired. 

I had no clue how other officers might respond or what he might see. I could care less as there is nothing to hide. He has seen one situation get out of hand that resulted in resisting arrest and a struggle between officers that were outnumbered when a larger group turned on the officers. Ask how these officers responded when the aggressors (who were minorities)  were clearly not the police. 

Lately it has been common for someone to post a photo of an officer changing a tire or doing some other good deed that is not required as part of the job and can easily be avoided. Then the inevitable comments come that are something like, "See, not all officers are bad".  It seems the implication is that a person discovered the one good cop out of 10. In truth, the anomoly is not the officer changing the tire or buying the homeless guy a pair of shoes, etc., it is the bad officer. Officers a thousand times a day do things at their own expense or labor that go unnoticed by the public and they rarely even tell their fellow officers about it. They're not doing it for recognition. 

At my  department a couple of weeks ago, we received an email from a citizen from Indiana.  The email stated that a woman have been stranded  and basically had no clue where she was. Unfortunately this person met and fell in love with another person on the Internet.  After going to southwest Louisiana to meet up with the love connection, the rose colored glasses came off. After a brief relationship they woman found out something like the guy was a drunk and abusive.  The guy ended up slapping her around and then driving her to Texas and dropped her off on the side of the highway.  A concerned citizen was passing by and saw someone that needed help and called. That is when the police got involved.  We could find no crime that had been committed in Texas however we had an obviously distraught and stranded person that really had no clue where she was at.  One officer got permission from a supervisor to bring her back to the police station to get her out of the weather and to see if they could find her any help.  Between the officers they collected some money and were able to get her a ride that eventually ended up back at home in Indiana.  None of that was known until a couple of months later when the email came in and the woman described what happened and stated that she had gotten her old job back. A brief check with the officers confirmed that the incident did happen as the woman described. No one really knew because the officers did not go out of their way to tell anyone.  They simply helped a person out of their own pocket and went on with their lives. That is the routine, not the current spin of officers out of control or systematic and organized corruption. The anomoly is the bad officer and not the one officer caught on camera helping an old person across the street. 

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5GallonBucket

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i was pulled over yesterday for going 45 in a 35 in Kountze.  The vehicles i was driving was a 94 Toyota pickup front hood and fenders are painted camo the cab and bed are the original black with some rust.  Its a an old beat up truck.  Two officers get out...one on each side of truck while hand on holstered pistol.  Officer asks for my License and Ins.  My wallet was is in my lunch kit.  Before I go for it...I tell officer my wallet is in my lunch kit.  I Hand him both...small talk.....He then tells me to slow down and to have a good day.  NO TICKET...    Pretty simple when you abide by their commands and as well think about situations before acting.  Officers were very cordial, polite and acted professional.

Christmas eve last year I got pulled over in Lumberton with my whole family coming back from a family get together for going 55 in a 50.  Officer acted agitated and seemed to be on a power trip, but was professional.  Gave me a ticket for speeding and a ticket for not having my license address changed.  I had just moved within the month.  I was bit agitated myself after the address ordeal, but I still didn't show any emotion towards the officer. 

I say this just to say that either way I broke the law and deserved a ticket in both instances.  As well officers are humans and deal with a lot of crap especially now.  BE respectful no matter what and nothing crazy will happen.

I didn't have to pay for the address ticket by the way.

I like the two officers per squad car.  To bad that cant be the case everywhere for the officers protection.

 

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i was pulled over yesterday for going 45 in a 35 in Kountze.  The vehicles i was driving was a 94 Toyota pickup front hood and fenders are painted camo the cab and bed are the original black with some rust.  Its a an old beat up truck.  Two officers get out...one on each side of truck while hand on holstered pistol.  Officer asks for my License and Ins.  My wallet was is in my lunch kit.  Before I go for it...I tell officer my wallet is in my lunch kit.  I Hand him both...small talk.....He then tells me to slow down and to have a good day.  NO TICKET...    Pretty simple when you abide by their commands and as well think about situations before acting.  Officers were very cordial, polite and acted professional.

Christmas eve last year I got pulled over in Lumberton with my whole family coming back from a family get together for going 55 in a 50.  Officer acted agitated and seemed to be on a power trip, but was professional.  Gave me a ticket for speeding and a ticket for not having my license address changed.  I had just moved within the month.  I was bit agitated myself after the address ordeal, but I still didn't show any emotion towards the officer. 

I say this just to say that either way I broke the law and deserved a ticket in both instances.  As well officers are humans and deal with a lot of crap especially now.  BE respectful no matter what and nothing crazy will happen.

I didn't have to pay for the address ticket by the way.

I like the two officers per squad car.  To bad that cant be the case everywhere for the officers protection.

 

Per the Judge in Lumberton, they are NOT supposed to write you a ticket up to 8 miles over speed limit. If they do, call and ask to meet with Judge.....he should dismiss. 

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I agreed with 5 Gallon on the two officers per squad car.  Our State, County, City, governments need to take a serious look at doing this.  I know it'll cost, but this feces is getting out of hand.  At least look at options, like two DPS at night.  Two City Officers in high crime areas.  

Sadly, even that doesn't guarantee safety, as the incident in NY shows, but it sure could have saved Deputy Goforth.  

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bullets13

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@KHOU: Police release video of different perspectives during traffic stop

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This is great! 

a perfect example of how videos that show officers "doing something wrong" often don't show important factors that lead to officers reacting the way they do.

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