Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) @KRIS6News: GOP candidate @realDonaldTrump calls for "complete and total ban" on Muslims entering US. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up @KatyTurNBC: BREAKING: Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Edited December 7, 2015 by Mr. Buddy Garrity Forgot to add a link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderRed30 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 @KRIS6News: GOP candidate @realDonaldTrump calls for "complete and total ban" on Muslims entering US. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up All Presidential Candidates before they are allowed to run should be forced to take a Consitution test. This proves it, if Trump does not even know the first amendment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 All Presidential Candidates before they are allowed to run should be forced to take a Consitution test. This proves it, if Trump does not even know the first amendment. Doesn't know or like the current occupant of the WH, doesn't care what it says? Englebert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Wildcats Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) All Presidential Candidates before they are allowed to run should be forced to take a Consitution test. This proves it, if Trump does not even know the first amendment. What does Yobammy know about it Edited December 8, 2015 by BS Wildcats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 @ChrisChristie: Full remarks from @MedvedSHOW on @realDonaldTrump statement. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 @jdickerson: Dick Cheney on @hughhewitt: @realDonaldTrump's call for banning muslims "goes against everything we believe in." via @alanhe @igorvolsky: When you lose Dick Cheney.... Audio here: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Unreal lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Trump is absolutely correct on this one....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 All Presidential Candidates before they are allowed to run should be forced to take a Consitution test. This proves it, if Trump does not even know the first amendment. The FIRST AMENDMENT does not require us to allow the enemy into the gates......... 77 and Englebert 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 very simple solution to a lot of our issues in this country.......CLOSE THE BORDER. CLOSE THE BORDER CLOSE THE BORDER CLOSE THE BORDER CLOSE THE BORDER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Its not our job to save everybody. Mr. Buddy Garrity and Englebert 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderRed30 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) The FIRST AMENDMENT does not require us to allow the enemy into the gates.........Let's see freedom of religion is a part of the first amendment. Thereby stating that everyone in a certain religion should be banned from entering is breaking said first amendment. So Yes, what Donald Trump said is unconstitutional and is all talk. Edited December 8, 2015 by RaiderRed30 PN-G bamatex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 WRONG. Freedom of religion is for American citizens. It will be bestowed upon those entering once they become naturalized. You must first swear allegiance to this country and to uphold our constitution. That should keep 99% out. RETIREDFAN1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderRed30 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 WRONG. Freedom of religion is for American citizens. It will be bestowed upon those entering once they become naturalized. You must first swear allegiance to this country and to uphold our constitution. That should keep 99% out.Actually I am not. If you are not allowed into the country because of religion then you disallow the first amendment because it will impossible for a person to enter because of they belong to a certain religion. Ergo freedom of religion a part of the first amendment has been violated. That is unconstitutional as well violation of around 10 more federal equal opportunity laws. Add this to the issue that within five seconds of this ever being ruled, every federal judge would rule this as unconstitutional, meaning it would never go into effect. So no I am not wrong, as I have a basic understanding of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) When we get enough Muslims in country, the First Amendment will be the first amendment to go.Muslims are not fond of it, just take a look at any Muslim country. Edited December 8, 2015 by LumRaiderFan RETIREDFAN1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 This is gonna come down to the egg and the chicken.How can you violate someone's constitutional rights if they are not citizens? If they come here because they will have freedom to worship any God they choose, then I hear you. However, when a certain religious is known more for terrorism (beheading you just because you are Christian), then I say err on the side of caution to most of you. For me, I don't care who I offend. They won't ever come close to cutting off this boy's head, and that's a fact Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 This is gonna come down to the egg and the chicken.How can you violate someone's constitutional rights if they are not citizens? If they come here because they will have freedom to worship any God they choose, then I hear you. However, when a certain religious is known more for terrorism (beheading you just because you are Christian), then I say err on the side of caution to most of you. For me, I don't care who I offend. They won't ever come close to cutting off this boy's head, and that's a fact Jack.you're more likely to get your head cutoff (or knocked off by bullets) by one of our very own homegrown citizens… err… terrorists (or "mentally disabled citizens") nowadays in the U.S. I keep my head on a swivel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 I find it hypocritical of both sides to be arguing against Trump based on "unconstitutionality". The Republicans want to spy on every American without cause. The democrats, well there are too many examples to list, but I will just go with...The Democrats want to take away our 2nd Amendment Rights. They say they want "common sense" (whatever) gun control, but everyone over 6 years old (mental age) knows the true agenda is gun confiscation. I'm liking Trump more and more. I will vote for either Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, but I love that Trump forces everyone in both parties to show their true colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Let's see freedom of religion is a part of the first amendment. Thereby stating that everyone in a certain religion should be banned from entering is breaking said first amendment. So Yes, what Donald Trump said is unconstitutional and is all talk. The FIRST AMENDMENT say that no law shall be made ESTABLISHING a religion or PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE of religion.....nowhere does it say that we have to allow enemy combatants into our country or any "refugees" or "immigrants".......keeping muslimes out of this nation does not in any way violate the FIRST AMENDMENT......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) So no I am not wrong, as I have a basic understanding of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. VERY basic....and you are wrong on this.......Show me, please, just WHERE in the Constitution that the government is required to take in any immigrants at all???? I won't hold my breath waiting, Mr. Basic Understanding....... Edited December 8, 2015 by Colmesneilfan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderRed30 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 VERY basic....and you are wrong on this.......The FIRST AMENDMENT say that no law shall be made ESTABLISHING a religion or PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE of religion.....nowhere does it say that we have to allow enemy combatants into our country or any "refugees" or "immigrants".......keeping muslimes out of this nation does not in any way violate the FIRST AMENDMENT......... This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Yeah not basic and not wrong. It is a violation of both the 1st Amendment and 5th Amendment as well as Article VII of the Constitution. Unless of course you know more about the law then a professors at some of the best law schools in the nation, George Washington and Cornell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 This is gonna come down to the egg and the chicken.How can you violate someone's constitutional rights if they are not citizens? If they come here because they will have freedom to worship any God they choose, then I hear you. However, when a certain religious is known more for terrorism (beheading you just because you are Christian), then I say err on the side of caution to most of you. For me, I don't care who I offend. You won't ever come close to cutting off this boy's head, and that's a fact Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 So just because some pinko on NBC or the Washington Post SAYS that it's unconstitutional makes it so???? W R O N G !!!!! It does not violate EITHER of those Amendments because the people being talked about are NOT CITIZENS.......Again, show me in The Constitution, please, where we are required to accept enemy combatants into our midst......I'd also like you to show me the part where we are required to take ANY immigrants in at all..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Laurence Tribe is either incompetent or an outright liar.....HERE is Article 6, Section 3: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. Says nothing at all about immigrant status........try again, though, this is entertaining.......as for the Post, To HELL with "International Law"....... Edited December 8, 2015 by Colmesneilfan1 thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Yeah not basic and not wrong. It is a violation of both the 1st Amendment and 5th Amendment as well as Article VII of the Constitution. Unless of course you know more about the law then a professors at some of the best law schools in the nation, George Washington and Cornell.Obama, who was a Constitutional Professor, said the Constitution was "deeply flawed" and was a "Charter of negative liberties".Is he right...no. You don't have to be a Harvard law professor to understand the Constitution...even though they want you to think so. RETIREDFAN1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Obama, who was a Constitutional Professor, said the Constitution was "deeply flawed" and was a "Charter of negative liberties".Is he right...no. You don't have to be a Harvard law professor to understand the Constitution...even though they want you to think so. Exactly....remember it was the "experts" who said the world was flat......it was the "experts" who said man would never fly.....it was the "experts:" who said the sound barrier couldn't be broken.....it was the "experts" who said we would never put a man on the moon.....and it was the "experts" who said it was physically impossible for a human to run a sub-4 minute mile.......I tend to disregard the "experts" and make my own call on things...... 5GallonBucket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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