So.... This Donald Trump Guy..

[TxHoops]

And I still would like someone more savvy in politics than me to explain how we end up with two candidates that have massive DISapproval ratings. 

[Hagar]

46 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

And I still would like someone more savvy in politics than me to explain how we end up with two candidates that have massive DISapproval ratings. 

I saw this yesterday Hoops, and thot of it when I read your post.

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[baddog]

2 hours ago, TxHoops said:

And I still would like someone more savvy in politics than me to explain how we end up with two candidates that have massive DISapproval ratings. 

It takes a backstabbing scum bag to be a politician. Trump can sling the dirt better than any of them but I think he will tone it down, which he has already to some degree. Hillary is scum in its purest form. No other way to explain it.

[Hagar]

How did we end up with these two?  I can explain Hillery (in my opinion), but Donald, is that something of a joke gone bad?   It's a smh if there ever was one.

[77]

The  left and the media felt like they owed to Clinton after the DNC slipped yobama in on her last go round and Trump because people are sick of the lying cheating scum that is DC in which Clinton is the poster child of!

[nappyroots]

4 hours ago, 77 said:

The  left and the media felt like they owed to Clinton after the DNC slipped yobama in on her last go round and Trump because people are sick of the lying cheating scum that is DC in which Clinton is the poster child of!

agree on clinton, but trump is lying cheating scum also . Mr go bankrupt and don't pay his bills, but trump is 100 times better than lying ted

[Englebert]

45 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

agree on clinton, but trump is lying cheating scum also . Mr go bankrupt and don't pay his bills, but trump is 100 times better than lying ted

So what "lies" has Cruz said? I bet you can't name a single one without a google search...sheeple! And even then you won't have anything that warrants an attack.

I do agree with you on Hillary and Trump though. And it is easy to back that up.

[TxHoops]

I thought I had already posted this but I guess I haven't (if I did, my apologies).  In any event, interesting article from a pretty respected (and conservative) publication.  

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1 hour ago, baddog said:

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No surprise (now).   But you could have got in my pocket with a bet when this thing started.  I know I like him better than Clinton.  I just hope he exceeds our expectations.

[baddog]

6 minutes ago, REBgp said:

No surprise (now).   But you could have got in my pocket with a bet when this thing started.  I know I like him better than Clinton.  I just hope he exceeds our expectations.

The way I see it......anyone is a crap shoot. Actions speak louder than words. Only way we can go is up.

[stevenash]

And most, if not all politicians, are purveyors of words rather than actions.  Who knows, maybe this time we will get someone who is not an eloquent speaker, does not live by Political Correctness, and might actually achieve something?

[tvc184]

On 5/14/2016 at 10:45 AM, TxHoops said:

And I still would like someone more savvy in politics than me to explain how we end up with two candidates that have massive DISapproval ratings. 

Cause and effect.....

Also known at the Butterfly Effect or the Chaos Effect.

This goes as far back as 2008 and Bush signing TARP into law. His approval numbers were already waning and they hit a low (25%) in October 2008 right after he signed the law. His low numbers allowed Obama to be an anomaly that kept Hillary Clinton from taking the nomination. The deal was cut for her to drop out and be nominated to Secretary of State. 

With a black president out of the way, a woman being deemed up next and no one (of any consequence) in the Democrat Party  wanting to take on the Clinton machine, she was given a clear path to the nomination... or so we thought. She will still likely win it but Sanders is even with her in CA which was to be her crowning jewel. There are obviously some bright young stars in the Democrats but no one would risk it.

Why does that matter? Hillary was seen as receiving a coronation without much of a race. She was such a bad candidate, it caused 17 Republicans to jump into the race. Why? Because Hillary was so unpopular, almost any conservative, even moderately so, would have an easy win in November. While we could expect several people jump in, there would not have been almost 20. Trump who would not have risked his only political career against Obama, decided this was his one chance at not only the top of the heap in business but to be so in politics also without having to work his way up. 

Trump then caused this mess. It doesn't matter if he won it fair and square or if he is the best candidate. Had there only been half a dozen Republicans, we might not be looking at Trump. Until the very end, Trump almost never had more than 35% of the popular vote. The other however got split between 16 people. In a normal year another Republican would have won and would most likely have positive poll numbers. I don't think Trump was oblivious to that. 

So this perfect storm of political moves caused an unpopular Clinton and Trump to come out on top. Hillary alone could have caused it by encouraging so many Republicans to enter the race. It would not have mattered if Cruz, Rubio, Kasich or Christie was the winner, he would have come out with an eventual popularity among at least the Republicans. Hillary is what caused Trump to jump into the race. On any other year he would almost have certainly not done so. 

So here it is abbreviated........ 

Hillary will win because of her husband, being a woman and no one (of any serious consequence) wanting to challenge that except an old stodgy white guy at the end of his career and nothing to lose. That caused Trump to come in and split the Republican field. That cause and effect is what has resulted in two candidates that almost no one wants.

So you can blame this on Bush and him siding with the Democrats. 

[TxHoops]

2 hours ago, tvc184 said:

Cause and effect.....

Also known at the Butterfly Effect or the Chaos Effect.

This goes as far back as 2008 and Bush signing TARP into law. His approval numbers were already waning and they hit a low (25%) in October 2008 right after he signed the law. His low numbers allowed Obama to be an anomaly that kept Hillary Clinton from taking the nomination. The deal was cut for her to drop out and be nominated to Secretary of State. 

With a black president out of the way, a woman being deemed up next and no one (of any consequence) in the Democrat Party  wanting to take on the Clinton machine, she was given a clear path to the nomination... or so we thought. She will still likely win it but Sanders is even with her in CA which was to be her crowning jewel. There are obviously some bright young stars in the Democrats but no one would risk it.

Why does that matter? Hillary was seen as receiving a coronation without much of a race. She was such a bad candidate, it caused 17 Republicans to jump into the race. Why? Because Hillary was so unpopular, almost any conservative, even moderately so, would have an easy win in November. While we could expect several people jump in, there would not have been almost 20. Trump who would not have risked his only political career against Obama, decided this was his one chance at not only the top of the heap in business but to be so in politics also without having to work his way up. 

Trump then caused this mess. It doesn't matter if he won it fair and square or if he is the best candidate. Had there only been half a dozen Republicans, we might not be looking at Trump. Until the very end, Trump almost never had more than 35% of the popular vote. The other however got split between 16 people. In a normal year another Republican would have won and would most likely have positive poll numbers. I don't think Trump was oblivious to that. 

So this perfect storm of political moves caused an unpopular Clinton and Trump to come out on top. Hillary alone could have caused it by encouraging so many Republicans to enter the race. It would not have mattered if Cruz, Rubio, Kasich or Christie was the winner, he would have come out with an eventual popularity among at least the Republicans. Hillary is what caused Trump to jump into the race. On any other year he would almost have certainly not done so. 

So here it is abbreviated........ 

Hillary will win because of her husband, being a woman and no one (of any serious consequence) wanting to challenge that except an old stodgy white guy at the end of his career and nothing to lose. That caused Trump to come in and split the Republican field. That cause and effect is what has resulted in two candidates that almost no one wants.

So you can blame this on Bush and him siding with the Democrats. 

Pretty solid analysis IMO.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts.  

[Hagar]

Looks like old Donald is going to have a rough campaign.

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1 hour ago, REBgp said:

Looks like old Donald is going to have a rough campaign.

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Wait until he gets to Cleveland, it'll be a madhouse 

[77]

bunch of punks!

 

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13 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

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All one needs to do is read the THIRD word in the report.  

[nappyroots]

3 hours ago, stevenash said:

All one needs to do is read the THIRD word in the report.  

Replace the name trump with obama and you would have no problem with the article

[baddog]

20 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

Replace the name trump with obama and you would have no problem with the article

So you're judging a politician by what he says? What a novel idea.

[LumRaiderFan]

5 hours ago, stevenash said:

All one needs to do is read the THIRD word in the report.  

lol...that's some top notch reporting...some folks seem to buy it.

Cutting SS would sure get my vote.

[Hagar]

6 hours ago, stevenash said:

All one needs to do is read the THIRD word in the report.  

Yep that third word is the giveaway.   And if you're still not convinced, read the last paragraph of the Editors opinion of Trump.  Probably got invited to ride on that perverted plane Bill travels on regularly.

[nappyroots]

Trump cheated on his wives, bankrupt his finances twice and runs a casino........

[baddog]

Cheating on your wife and flying on a plane with a convicted sex offender and having sex with underaged girls is how you equate Trump with Clinton? I can see how those two things confuse you.

Bankruptcy and ownership of casinos is not illegal. Why is that a problem for you.