Lumberton 51 Beaumont Ozen 29/Final

[NDNation]

Bad thing is, now I will be nodding off during the Cowboy game..lol

[BMTSoulja1]

best backs in the area IMO is Marcus Younger, Whaley and Tyler right now. Damn the stats, watch the games. 

Tyler is lil C...

[BMTSoulja1]

Bad thing is, now I will be nodding off during the Cowboy game..lol

Maybe that's a good thing...  Save you're eyes the pain of watching grade A garbage for a week...

[RaiderGirl2010]

Maybe that's a good thing...  Save you're eyes the pain of watching grade A garbage for a week...

hey watch it there 

[BMTSoulja1]

Lol

[JRidge]

Here we go. Home cooking with the refs y'all picked lol. Lumberton uses the local TASO chapter. BISD makes everyone use the Houston chapter in their games, home or away. Home cooking with the refs Ozen picked? Give me a break. You lost to the better, more physical, more disciplined, better coached team last night. Good luck the rest of the year to the Panthers. I'll be the first to say I hope you win out! ;-) 

I dId say they clearly out played Ozen but no one on here cares to post or mentIon the lopsided penalties. Personal foul on Lumberton call was overturned. They had 1 holding penalty and I think 1 personal foul that stuck other than that It was a perfect game or some good home cooking for Home ComIng. I think Ozen had about 15 and a TD called back. Som kids just have to learn to deal with adversity better. Good game Lumberton. 

[BMTSoulja1]

ONE holding penalty?  So the young man that I talked to was telling the truth about the disparity in holding and personal fouls...

[jmk]

Gotta chime in on conversation about best running back.Krautz from Nededrland has to be in the running. Vidor box score not posted anywhere except PA news. They said he was 162-19. So that puts him over 600 with 7 TD's.

[SmashMouth]

I dId say they clearly out played Ozen but no one on here cares to post or mentIon the lopsided penalties. Personal foul on Lumberton call was overturned. They had 1 holding penalty and I think 1 personal foul that stuck other than that It was a perfect game or some good home cooking for Home ComIng. I think Ozen had about 15 and a TD called back. Som kids just have to learn to deal with adversity better. Good game Lumberton. 

JRidge...where you at the game or is all of your comments based on gossip? Did a high school ref do a poor job making calls? Maybe- but that was on both sides of the ball. I posted earlier that Lumberton was not 3 Scores better than Ozen. But Ozen needs to take a look in the mirror. Their coaching was very poor. Flagrant penalties (especially defensive offsides) killed them. Personal fouls killed them. The inability to approach Lumberton with an informed game plan killed them. The inability to adapt to Lumberton strengths and weaknesses killed them. Even their inability to utilize their best players killed them. Still can't figure out why they didn't expose the Receiver vs Corner mismatch. Ozen's receiver no. 18 should've had 8+ catches and 3+ TD's. There was no home cooking. If you want to blame somebody or some thing, go ahead and take a shot at the head coach. He is responsible for preparing his team & the game plan, recognizing his team's and his opponent's strengths and weaknesses and being able to make adjustments before and during the game to be able to expose those strengths and weaknesses to his team's advantage. Ozen's coach did not achieve those goals and his team lost. Bottom line. Yes I was there and saw each snap firsthand.

Edited September 27, 2015 by SmashMouth

[rc2182]

Usually don't comment regarding officials but it was definitely one sided, but when you play on opposing teams territory you should expect that, now would that have dictated the outcome of the game, I don't think so. Lumberton clearly out played Ozen. One play in particular, was an off side penalty called on Ozen, Quarterback threw ball to his receiver which he supposed to do..defender tackle him which he supposed to do, they then throw a flag call off setting penalties illegal procedure on Lumberton , offside Ozen but the unsportsmanlike like penalty sticks and give Lumberton 15 yards. All of this occurred at the same time. Several other questionable penalties, but once again Lumberton was the better team that night. 

[rc2182]

Ozen has to regroup and as smash mouth said look in the mirror, don't think they were scouted well enough, and maybe,just maybe don't have the numbers, or personnel, to match numbers and personnel of other teams. Don't take that the wrong way, they have several players on Ozen's team that are better than all players on most of the teams in the district, just not enough of them.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Gotta chime in on conversation about best running back.Krautz from Nededrland has to be in the running. Vidor box score not posted anywhere except PA news. They said he was 162-19. So that puts him over 600 with 7 TD's.

welp, gotta include him too now. 

[BMTSoulja1]

Gotta chime in on conversation about best running back.Krautz from Nededrland has to be in the running. Vidor box score not posted anywhere except PA news. They said he was 162-19. So that puts him over 600 with 7 TD's.

I completely agree...

[BMTSoulja1]

welp, gotta include him too now. 

I mentioned him in my original list of good RB's in this district in my banter with OF...

[Brubaker]

Krautz ability to split out and also perform as one the ares best WRs makes him the most dangerous weapon in this district.

[IT'S IN THE BONE]

Ozen has to regroup and as smash mouth said look in the mirror, don't think they were scouted well enough, and maybe,just maybe don't have the numbers, or personnel, to match numbers and personnel of other teams. Don't take that the wrong way, they have several players on Ozen's team that are better than all players on most of the teams in the district, just not enough of them.

IMO...Ozen is loaded with talent but that talent has to be coached up and developed and BISD has not done the best of job putting the right folks in charge of Ozen Football.  In addition, you also can't continue a revolving door either...Kids have to be coach-able and that starts off the field...plus, coaches have to coach and together they gotta have heart. When Ozen becomes a team with kids that want to be coached and coaches that want to coach...Ozen will play as team and execute. I keep waiting for that year to occur and watch Ozen roll...if your a football guy than you know thats special and fun to watch.  

[thetragichippy]

Usually don't comment regarding officials but it was definitely one sided, but when you play on opposing teams territory you should expect that, now would that have dictated the outcome of the game, I don't think so. Lumberton clearly out played Ozen. One play in particular, was an off side penalty called on Ozen, Quarterback threw ball to his receiver which he supposed to do..defender tackle him which he supposed to do, they then throw a flag call off setting penalties illegal procedure on Lumberton , offside Ozen but the unsportsmanlike like penalty sticks and give Lumberton 15 yards. All of this occurred at the same time. Several other questionable penalties, but once again Lumberton was the better team that night. 

I completely disagree.......

 

Like I told my PEEWEE football players whenI used to coach........if you let a Ref decide the outcome of a game, you were never good enough to win the game to begin with.

 

[understand]

Krautz ability to split out and also perform as one the ares best WRs makes him the most dangerous weapon in this district.

wow he should have 25 offers!

BG why don't you start a topic on the best back in the area, and list there offers that way we can show the colleges coaches who knows best, lol

Edited September 27, 2015 by understand

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

wow he should have 25 offers!

BG why don't you start a topic on the best back in the area, and list there offers that way we can show the colleges coaches who knows best, lol

Soulja posted the list of some. Add in Cobra from La Porte also. 

[raideroldtimer]

On that called back TD, I felt bad that the kid stepped out of bounds before the ball got to him. The catch itself was beautiful, right in the middle of two Raiders defenders, that boy has some good hands hope he gets a lot of passes.

 

Ozen 420 yds 14 1st dwn 52/311 rush 5/6 109 pass C Tyler 24=185 rush 4tds******Choo choo 387 tot  34/208 rush  7/14/0  179 pass.Ozen w/1 fumble,neither team had more than 40 penalty yds=strange game but L Train 22pt margin victory=statement acknowledged.1 more win Choo-choo laying down track marks=they posters gonna jump out the closet

Now tex, I ain't never gone away, I'm just quiet.

 

[raideroldtimer]

 

 

 

 

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

wow he should have 25 offers!

BG why don't you start a topic on the best back in the area, and list there offers that way we can show the colleges coaches who knows best, lol

Regarding offers, Krautz is similar to Montana Q from Vidor.  One of the most dangerous players in the district but it doesn't always translate to college offers.  As a Junior, Krautz was the leading scorer in district 22-5A.  It could be a repeat performance this year

[JRidge]

JRidge...where you at the game or is all of your comments based on gossip? Did a high school ref do a poor job making calls? Maybe- but that was on both sides of the ball. I posted earlier that Lumberton was not 3 Scores better than Ozen. But Ozen needs to take a look in the mirror. Their coaching was very poor. Flagrant penalties (especially defensive offsides) killed them. Personal fouls killed them. The inability to approach Lumberton with an informed game plan killed them. The inability to adapt to Lumberton strengths and weaknesses killed them. Even their inability to utilize their best players killed them. Still can't figure out why they didn't expose the Receiver vs Corner mismatch. Ozen's receiver no. 18 should've had 8+ catches and 3+ TD's. There was no home cooking. If you want to blame somebody or some thing, go ahead and take a shot at the head coach. He is responsible for preparing his team & the game plan, recognizing his team's and his opponent's strengths and weaknesses and being able to make adjustments before and during the game to be able to expose those strengths and weaknesses to his team's advantage. Ozen's coach did not achieve those goals and his team lost. Bottom line. Yes I was there and saw each snap firsthand.

SmashMouth if you read all of my statements you would realize that I said no matter if Lumberton had the home cooking they whipped our butts. They were more physical and made more plays when needed. Yes i was there and have 2 sons that start on Ozen's defense and i said to them that they were not physical enough. One left the game due to a knee injury and plays tough every play and was held at least 3 times on video and it wasn't called. The other played corner and received the holding call that brought back a long gain for Lumberton but was held a few more times that wasn't called. I tell them to get off the blocks anyway. No one will post the penalty advantage Lumberton had which helped demoralize kids moral but still all and all it was Lumbertons night! Not excuses merely facts. Lumberton should be fine and i did mention all those things you mentioned about Ozen it was just a bit subtle.

[BearBB2001]

Keep adding new topics to this. I just like reading the topic title. RAIDERS

[SmashMouth]

SmashMouth if you read all of my statements you would realize that I said no matter if Lumberton had the home cooking they whipped our butts. They were more physical and made more plays when needed. Yes i was there and have 2 sons that start on Ozen's defense and i said to them that they were not physical enough. One left the game due to a knee injury and plays tough every play and was held at least 3 times on video and it wasn't called. The other played corner and received the holding call that brought back a long gain for Lumberton but was held a few more times that wasn't called. I tell them to get off the blocks anyway. No one will post the penalty advantage Lumberton had which helped demoralize kids moral but still all and all it was Lumbertons night! Not excuses merely facts. Lumberton should be fine and i did mention all those things you mentioned about Ozen it was just a bit subtle.

Hope your son recovers from his injury and they both have an awesome high school football career. I have no doubt there were bad calls. I played high school and college ball, and I have coached all the way through the high school varsity ranks. I have seen PLENTY both for and against my teams. I just don't want there to be a footnote as to why the Raiders won regarding calls.  It wasn't home cooking...just poor calls. If you want to add a footnote, say something about Ozens poor coaching, which has way more to do with the loss more than anything. And instead of being demoralized by the crappy calls, hopefully the coaches will teach the boys to make the adversity drive them harder instead like it sounds like you have with your sons. Good luck.

Edited September 27, 2015 by SmashMouth