JRidge Posted September 27, 2015 Report Posted September 27, 2015 I completely disagree....... Like I told my PEEWEE football players whenI used to coach........if you let a Ref decide the outcome of a game, you were never good enough to win the game to begin with. This statement isn't necessarily correct. Sometimes a bad call can determine a game it happens all the time. Yes you should teach your team that worrying about the refs won't help so you may as well play harder so that their calls don't have to determine the outcome. rc2182 1 Quote
RaiderGirl2010 Posted September 27, 2015 Report Posted September 27, 2015 Okay that's enough! We are over Ozen and are focused on Central now!!!! BMTSoulja1, JRidge and rc2182 3 Quote
AthleticSupporter - Jock Posted September 27, 2015 Report Posted September 27, 2015 SmashMouth if you read all of my statements you would realize that I said no matter if Lumberton had the home cooking they whipped our butts. They were more physical and made more plays when needed. Yes i was there and have 2 sons that start on Ozen's defense and i said to them that they were not physical enough. One left the game due to a knee injury and plays tough every play and was held at least 3 times on video and it wasn't called. The other played corner and received the holding call that brought back a long gain for Lumberton but was held a few more times that wasn't called. I tell them to get off the blocks anyway. No one will post the penalty advantage Lumberton had which helped demoralize kids moral but still all and all it was Lumbertons night! Not excuses merely facts. Lumberton should be fine and i did mention all those things you mentioned about Ozen it was just a bit subtle.1. I've never a defensive player that didn't think he was being held on every play2. Like I said before the game, the less -disciplined team always complains about the refs the most. 3. When our players commit fouls, the coaches and fans holler at the players. When your players commit fouls, your coaches and fans holler at the ref. It's called a victim mentality. spoonbill and thetragichippy 2 Quote
JRidge Posted September 27, 2015 Report Posted September 27, 2015 Hope your son recovers from his injury and they both have an awesome high school football career. I have no doubt there were bad calls. I played high school and college ball, and I have coached all the way through the high school varsity ranks. I have seen PLENTY both for and against my teams. I just don't want there to be a footnote as to why the Raiders won regarding calls. If you want to add a footnote, say something about Ozens poor coaching, which has way more to do with the loss more than anything. And instead of being demoralized by the crappy calls, hopefully the coaches will teach the boys to make the adversity drive them harder instead like it sounds like you have with your sons. Good luck.Thanks and you are correct because it always falls back on the coaches whether they have the right personnel in place or offensive or defensive plan. It's crazy but one brother was blocked into the other and he received that injury. Hopefully it's just bruised and he'll be able to return especially since he missed most all of his Jr. year with a thumb injury. I don't know why they don't use the other who is learning to play corner, on offense some because everyone around except the coaches know he's a big offensive threat with the ball and blocks well. #18 should be utilized more but hey i'm not the coach and we will just ride the ship. Baseball is life for some of these kids anyway but they will compete for their school anyway they can. The more physical, better prepared and performers won that night. Good Luck to those Raiders! SmashMouth 1 Quote
JRidge Posted September 27, 2015 Report Posted September 27, 2015 1. I've never a defensive player that didn't think he was being held on every play2. Like I said before the game, the less -disciplined team always complains about the refs the most. 3. When our players commit fouls, the coaches and fans holler at the players. When your players commit fouls, your coaches and fans holler at the ref. It's called a victim mentality. Sounds good when you're the team that's getting the home cooked meal! I hope you guys never get to wear these shoes and have a successful season. I just don't ever feel that any team is perfect and that film don't lie! rc2182 1 Quote
JRidge Posted September 27, 2015 Report Posted September 27, 2015 Okay that's enough! We are over Ozen and are focused on Central now!!!! Yes, old news and moving on! Good Luck to Lumberton and Central on not having any serious injuries in this contest. Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 27, 2015 Report Posted September 27, 2015 Get healed soon, #34 B. Simpson. And hope that the injury isn't too serious! Quote
rc2182 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 Sounds good when you're the team that's getting the home cooked meal! I hope you guys never get to wear these shoes and have a successful season. I just don't ever feel that any team is perfect and that film don't lie!I agree with this 100% ,ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun. Quote
thetragichippy Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 This statement isn't necessarily correct. Sometimes a bad call can determine a game it happens all the time. Yes you should teach your team that worrying about the refs won't help so you may as well play harder so that their calls don't have to determine the outcome. We will have to disagree Quote
Brubaker Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 wow he should have 25 offers!BG why don't you start a topic on the best back in the area, and list there offers that way we can show the colleges coaches who knows best, lolwho said anything goes about college offers, should I -read it back to you. Why don't we just hand out all-state honors off who has the most D1 offers and not play the games? I would not want a HS rb right now other than Austin Krautz. I'll stand by that statement and we'll just let em play the games and see if he's not one of the top all around during offensive weapons when all is said and done. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 who said anything goes about college offers, should I -read it back to you. Why don't we just hand out all-state honors off who has the most D1 offers and not play the games? I would not want a HS rb right now other than Austin Krautz. I'll stand by that statement and we'll just let em play the games and see if he's not one of the top all around during offensive weapons when all is said and done. he reminds me of Sonnier Brubaker 1 Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 who said anything goes about college offers, should I -read it back to you. Why don't we just hand out all-state honors off who has the most D1 offers and not play the games? I would not want a HS rb right now other than Austin Krautz. I'll stand by that statement and we'll just let em play the games and see if he's not one of the top all around during offensive weapons when all is said and done. So you wouldn't want a player that's faster, has soft hands for catching, bigger, and stronger than Krautz? If you wouldn't, then you're just being biased. That's like saying that you'd prefer Labaron (sp) instead of the Hurts kid from Channelview.... mytwocents-28 1 Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 So you wouldn't want a player that's faster, has soft hands for catching, bigger, and stronger than Krautz? If you wouldn't, then you're just being biased. That's like saying that you'd prefer Labaron (sp) instead of the Hurts kid from Channelview....Hurts proved he can lead a team to the playoffs yet? Just saying. Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 Hurts proved he can lead a team to the playoffs yet? Just saying. Hurts has all the superior tools needed to be qb. Speed, quickness, deadeye accuracy abd great decision maker. Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 Hurts has all the superior tools needed to be qb. Speed, quickness, deadeye accuracy abd great decision maker. answer the question. Quote
Brubaker Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 I'm not a college scout, I watch lots of HS football. I never, ever mentioned LeBaron in the same discussion as Hurts, but Krautz is more dangerous than Whaley in Nederland offense because of how Nederland uses him in the passing game. If we had Whaley in Nederland, odds are Krautz would be playing CB/Safety, and WR. But he aint, so my opinion hasn't changed. And that doesn't mean I think Charlie should pull Whaleys offer for Krautz, that would be ridiculous. If you don't follow the logic of this post, I can't help it. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 answer the question. I'm talking talking about individual talents. SUPERIOR individual talents. You'd take Hurts in a New York minute in PA over lil Harrison.... If you say you wouldn't, then you are just lying to yourself.... Brubaker 1 Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 answer the question. Everyone know hurts haven't lead his team to the playoffs. Even if we use your reference, neither has Labaron.... Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 I'm talking talking about individual talents. SUPERIOR individual talents. You'd take Hurts in a New York minute in PA over lil Harrison.... If you say you wouldn't, then you are just lying to yourself....of course, but has Hurts led his team to the playoffs? Yes or no? Quote
understand Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 who said anything goes about college offers, should I -read it back to you. Why don't we just hand out all-state honors off who has the most D1 offers and not play the games? I would not want a HS rb right now other than Austin Krautz. I'll stand by that statement and we'll just let em play the games and see if he's not one of the top all around during offensive weapons when all is said and done. i'm not saying he is not good , because i think he is and has been , but don't fool us the kid has the coach -- and he maybe the best coach from Dallas to New Orleans . Quote
Brubaker Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 I can't argue that. My only question is why PNG fans haven't hopped on this thread... falling down on the job. This is one of their favorites, has nothing going to do with them. Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 I can't argue that. My only question is why PNG fans haven't hopped on this thread... falling down on the job. This is one of their favorites, has nothing going to do with them.probably wondering why they got beat by some lil boys who got an arse beating last night at Stallworth. Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 of course, but has Hurts led his team to the playoffs? Yes or no? Why ask a question you know the answer to. More so, why ask a question that you know I know the answer to? Also, what relevance is this to our debate? Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 Why ask a question you know the answer to. More so, why ask a question that you know I know the answer to? Also, what relevance is this to our debate?you the one opened up that mouth. Gotta feeling Lumberton gonna shut it, and Ozen gonna nail it closed in a couple weeks. thetragichippy 1 Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 you the one opened up that mouth. Gotta feeling Lumberton gonna shut it, and Ozen gonna nail it closed in a couple weeks. Please... Not worried... Quote
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