kicker Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Moody =BOJO. Whatever that means....if I remeber correctly, Bears Overcome Join as One Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNG Proud Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Look at Nederland. There's your answer. CAL2TEX and BlackShirts5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Dixson Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 People act like Nederland isn't a supremely talented team. Get out of here with that. AthleticSupporter - Jock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Don't think I said that. They will not be as good next year as this year personally, but they won't be terrible. The 8th-11th grade class at BC is still really good. But I do see LC-M beating them next year because they will be more talented no matter who the coach is for LC-M. So give me a talented team over a great coach. A lot of people say Matthews is a good coach but Vidor didn't play so swell this year. A lot of people also say Matthews doesn't know what he's doing. But his super talented team of 2011? Went three or four rounds deep. heI hope your right about the talent coming up. It was a long year for the bears and me lol. We need to build our defense up its gone down hill.... Coach Bolton was a good OC anybody knows where he is coaching now? Tyler Dixson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog8 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 People act like Nederland isn't a supremely talented team. Get out of here with that. that's what great coach does, make you look like you have supremely talented team. We have 12 underclassmen starting this year which include a few sophmores Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 that's what great coach does, make you look like you have supremely talented team. We have 12 underclassmen starting this year which include a few sophmores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Dixson Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 that's what great coach does, make you look like you have supremely talented team. We have 12 underclassmen starting this year which include a few sophmoreslmao so you're implying without Neauman that Nederland wouldn't still be talented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog8 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Just like most schools every 5 years or do you get special group of 3 or 4 players. I know first hand what we have and Nuemann and staff surprises me. Not going to mention names, but every year I am watching practice and think no way is that player going to help the team, I see a lot the kids grow up, I have been proved wrong every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 A good coach builds a good program which I believe makes better players from 7th grade up. Strength , conditioning and mental toughness. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robanadana Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Good coach and program. You develop your players, some years up and some years down. Some area schools have superior talent and can't make it past the first round of the playoffs yet put out four or five D1 players every year. I'll take the coach....the talent will happen. Just like Jeff did at Vidor for about 5 years. It will happen again. Get rid of a coach like that and go back to 0 - 10. Coach, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool2 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Good coach and program. You develop your players, some years up and some years down. Some area schools have superior talent and can't make it past the first round of the playoffs yet put out four or five D1 players every year. I'll take the coach....the talent will happen. Just like Jeff did at Vidor for about 5 years. It will happen again. Get rid of a coach like that and go back to 0 - 10. Coach, period.Tell you what.. You take Nick Saban and the Lamar University football team. I'll take a first year junior coach at a school of your choice and the University of Alabama.I'll give you a game a year for 5 years..we can wager any amount you like on the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Tell you what.. You take Nick Saban and the Lamar University football team. I'll take a first year junior coach at a school of your choice and the University of Alabama.I'll give you a game a year for 5 years..we can wager any amount you like on the results.You have point, but what do you think of U of H. There new coach is making some noise and I think they could take on some top teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipmeister Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 BC had a team in the 90s that should have made some noise with Bock at RB, coach was from Bastrop if I remember correctly. Coach back then I believe was Les Johnson. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Coach back then I believe was Les Johnson.Johnson was there from 1995 to 1998 is those are the years y'all are wanting? Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDOMAKONG Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 lmao so you're implying without Neauman that Nederland wouldn't still be talented? so the year Neumann showed up, the talent flooded to Nederland... I'll wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Dixson Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 so the year Neumann showed up, the talent flooded to Nederland... I'll waitYou don't have to wait. Hopkins, Seay, Kimler, Washington, Carr, Mayfields, Krautz, Lebarron, and this list goes on. It's not as if those guys wouldn't be as talented as they were if Neaumann wasn't the coach. That's a laughable statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Dixson Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Tell you what.. You take Nick Saban and the Lamar University football team. I'll take a first year junior coach at a school of your choice and the University of Alabama.I'll give you a game a year for 5 years..we can wager any amount you like on the results.No it's all about the coach. They develop all the talent and make the team good. They can win with whatever they got as long as the other coach isn't as good as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickle Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 to be successful you have to have talent and a good coach. if i have to pick just one, i would take the good coach and just hope some talent comes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Better coaching. If talent was more important Dallas Isd schools would run the table with 4a, 5a and 6a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outanup Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Coaching first...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthleticSupporter - Jock Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 that's what great coach does, make you look like you have supremely talented team. We have 12 underclassmen starting this year which include a few sophmoresWould Neuman have had Lumberton in playoffs 19 of the last 20 years? Or how about just the 1-29 run recently. Would he have had Raiders in the playoffs those 3 seasons? Tyler Dixson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Would Neuman have had Lumberton in playoffs 19 of the last 20 years? Or how about just the 1-29 run recently. Would he have had Raiders in the playoffs those 3 seasons? I think they would be more competitive with him there, and might have won a couple more games. Overall do I think would have went to playoffs probably not. C. Thompson when he left WOS for the head coaching job went 1-9 i believe at Palestine he left and I think went back to WOS. Jeff Harrell was there DC and became there head coach and went 9-2 next two seasons. But Jeff had Adrian Peterson at running back so a little talent does help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outanup Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Would Neuman have had Lumberton in playoffs 19 of the last 20 years? Or how about just the 1-29 run recently. Would he have had Raiders in the playoffs those 3 seasons? Guess we will never know the answer to that question, but no doubt in my mind Ltown would have been a better more consistent program..You dont have to look far to see several talented schools that are hair lipped by coaching...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whsalum Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 You gotta have talent. We have had 0-10 and 1-9 teams at Warren where the coach was removed and the next day he is hired by Lamar University. He was a quality coach who has been followed by quality coaches and most win 2 games at the most. Some towns for different reasons just don't put good football teams on the field but it's usually not the coaches.There are a TON of really good coaches that don't win state championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Neuman would have taken Lee to the playoffs this year ! Talent levels are pretty even in 22-5A besides Central and OZONE (Neuman would kick arse with those teams) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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