Bobcat1 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Republicans may like Trump, but would moderates vote for him in a general election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Those that want any chance at a strong military, safer border and a job had better. If you looking to get something from the fed gov, vote for clinton.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Bobcat1 said: Republicans may like Trump, but would moderates vote for him in a general election? Just curious:Â Are you saying Trump's a conservative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMFAM10 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Trump won't win nomination it will catch up to him sooner or later. Is trump a true conservative? How is it that trump is stealing all the votes I thought Cruz would easily get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 hour ago, PAMFAM10 said: Trump won't win nomination it will catch up to him sooner or later. Is trump a true conservative? How is it that trump is stealing all the votes I thought Cruz would easily get. Because many folks are uninformed and when it comes to politics...they will support someone because of what they say (whether it lines up with their past or not) or how they look. And don't think for a second the GOP is looking for a true conservative...they would love for Trump and Cruz to go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Found this interesting. What do you think? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 3 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Because many folks are uninformed and when it comes to politics...they will support someone because of what they say (whether it lines up with their past or not) or how they look. And don't think for a second the GOP is looking for a true conservative...they would love for Trump and Cruz to go away. For the record, I don't consider Trump is a conservative, but he is talking like one and the GOP dislikes him as much and considers him a threat just like they do Cruz. With that said, he would be a welcome change to the disaster of a President we have have and the disaster that will continue if another Democrat gets elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMFAM10 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Trump is winning not because of his conservative views he's winning because he can say he's not a politician and has no credit for the troubles in Washington. Anything and anyone who goes against trump is Establishment. Cruz knew this that's why he gave trump a free pass as long as he did. Cruz is by far the true conservative in this race with a background and voting record to back it. So how can a liberal on abortion and healthcare be doing so well in the GOP. My opinion a monster created by the right . All GOP voters been hearing is how there elected officials are liberals or not true conservative. So why not just vote for a liberal. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said: Trump is winning not because of his conservative views he's winning because he can say he's not a politician and has no credit for the troubles in Washington. Anything and anyone who goes against trump is Establishment. Cruz knew this that's why he gave trump a free pass as long as he did. Cruz is by far the true conservative in this race with a background and voting record to back it. So how can a liberal on abortion and healthcare be doing so well in the GOP. My opinion a monster created by the right . All GOP voters been hearing is how there elected officials are liberals or not true conservative. So why not just vote for a liberal. Trump is spewing conservative views...Washington spends too much, I'll cut spending...I will build the wall to stop the flow of illegal immigrants...I will rebuild the military. This resonates with folks...whether or not he will do it is another story. Another reason he is doing well is because we are a nation of moronic reality TV fans and he appeals to them.  RETIREDFAN1, 5GallonBucket and baddog 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Trump is spewing conservative views...Washington spends too much, I'll cut spending...I will build the wall to stop the flow of illegal immigrants...I will rebuild the military. This resonates with folks...whether or not he will do it is another story. Another reason he is doing well is because we are a nation of moronic reality TV fans and he appeals to them. Â Sad, but true. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMFAM10 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Trump is spewing conservative views...Washington spends too much, I'll cut spending...I will build the wall to stop the flow of illegal immigrants...I will rebuild the military. This resonates with folks...whether or not he will do it is another story. Another reason he is doing well is because we are a nation of moronic reality TV fans and he appeals to them.  I just think the GOP has a chance to nominate a true conservative who many has anointed cruz but the same evangelicals anti government group is looking over Cruz for trump. I'm just confused I knew trump could win some of the GOP but not from Cruz ... Will trump win Texas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said: I just think the GOP has a chance to nominate a true conservative who many has anointed cruz but the same evangelicals anti government group is looking over Cruz for trump. I'm just confused I knew trump could win some of the GOP but not from Cruz ... Will trump win Texas? I hear you and I agree...some folks see conservatism as a threat to the GOP and want to play it safe so they back someone they feel will get the moderate vote. True conservatism is a winner...but the GOP will not back it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatMack19 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Trump wins Nevada  Race called with 3% reporting.  I don't understand this.  How can they call it with 97% of the votes still left to count? This never made sense to me smitty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 To answer the original question posed, I think Trump ccould beat Hillary and has a strong base is so-called "moderates."  I think many times they label themselves as such because they don't particularly like either party.  As has been said ad nauseum, he is viewed as an outsider and that plays well to much of the populace.  For the record, I think Rubio could beat Hillary as well.  I think her best shot would be against Cruz, as much as some don't like to hear it.  Not saying she can't beat the other two but I think her chances are best against our senator.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 49 minutes ago, TxHoops said: To answer the original question posed, I think Trump ccould beat Hillary and has a strong base is so-called "moderates."  I think many times they label themselves as such because they don't particularly like either party.  As has been said ad nauseum, he is viewed as an outsider and that plays well to much of the populace.  For the record, I think Rubio could beat Hillary as well.  I think her best shot would be against Cruz, as much as some don't like to hear it.  Not saying she can't beat the other two but I think her chances are best against our senator.  Hope you're right Hoops.  As much as I don't like Trump, I dislike Hillary (the DNC Socialist Agenda) even more.  Sad thing is, to many times I've gone down to vote for president (never not voted) to cast my ballot against someone, not for someone.  I'm reminded of the lyrics, "Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 6 hours ago, baddog said: Found this interesting. What do you think? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up BD, I think that guy is an artist with words. Â He impressed the feces out of me. Â Ironically, sounds like he's wondering where Joe is too. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat1 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 20 hours ago, smitty said: Just curious:Â Are you saying Trump's a conservative? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Cartoon that exemplifies what I posted. Â This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/23/2016 at 0:59 PM, Bobcat1 said: Republicans may like Trump, but would moderates vote for him in a general election? not enough of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 i've been arguing with some of you guys for years about what republicans need to do in order to get back into the white house. Â many of you guys have insisted that the problem is that your candidates have not been conservative enough, while i've insisted they need to be even more moderate. Â well, if this doesn't answer that debate for you, i don't know what will. Â you have the ultra-conservative candidate you've wanted in the race, and he's being routinely beaten by a blowhard mouthpiece who has no experience and no plan. Â As an aside:Â For all of the many thousands of jabs you guys have taken at democrats on this site over the years for being low information voters... DONALD TRUMP IS WINNING REPUBLICAN STATE PRIMARIES. Â I guess those voters exist in large numbers on both sides of the aisle after all.` Bobcat1 and PN-G bamatex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 I have this sneaking suspicion that Mr. Trump is not at all as he currently portrays himself. I am more than confident he has access to all of the so called smart/enlightened advisors who could/would advise him how to conduct his campaign and how to express himself. He has obviously not followed conventional wisdom and is having some success being unconventional. This individual would likely not be where he is today if he is, in reality, the brash blowhard that he is portrayed to be. What impresses me the most is that he is able to totally ignore the media and its attempts to manipulate him as they seem to easily do with most candidates. I personally don't care for the way he portrays himself but I have this feeling that much of it is contrived and intentional and that it might very possibly be an inaccurate reflection of the real person. baddog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, stevenash said: I have this sneaking suspicion that Mr. Trump is not at all as he currently portrays himself. I am more than confident he has access to all of the so called smart/enlightened advisors who could/would advise him how to conduct his campaign and how to express himself. He has obviously not followed conventional wisdom and is having some success being unconventional. This individual would likely not be where he is today if he is, in reality, the brash blowhard that he is portrayed to be. What impresses me the most is that he is able to totally ignore the media and its attempts to manipulate him as they seem to easily do with most candidates. I personally don't care for the way he portrays himself but I have this feeling that much of it is contrived and intentional and that it might very possibly be an inaccurate reflection of the real person. While not what you intended, this is very accurate, as he is in fact fairly liberal, and has consistently portrayed himself as such up until the point where he decided it would be easier to win the nomination as a republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Or perhaps he is a person who does not "tow the party line" in its entirety as most candidates do. Perhaps he is a liberal in conservative clothing or vice versa. Or maybe he believes ( as an example) that one can support one or several  liberal social positions and still believe that Planned Parenthood ought to go the way of the dinosaur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 35 minutes ago, stevenash said: Or perhaps he is a person who does not "tow the party line" in its entirety as most candidates do. Perhaps he is a liberal in conservative clothing or vice versa. Or maybe he believes ( as an example) that one can support one or several  liberal social positions and still believe that Planned Parenthood ought to go the way of the dinosaur. i don't think he's going get much credit for that on here.  that being said, that's not the case.  he's supported them in the past, until he decided he wanted the republican vote.  i think it's more likely he'll toe whatever line he thinks he needs to toe in order to get votes, which makes him just like the politicians he criticizes for doing political things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 I still perceive him as being considerably more fiscally conservative than the current Pres or his likely opponent in the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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