Dick Vitale Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 Why is it that my question goes unanswered, two days later? I guess I DID shut it down! LOL TxHoops 1 Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 On 2/27/2016 at 1:04 PM, BlkMamba24 said: TxHoops believe me when i say this Ozen will be back AGAIN and probably deeper than this years team and i know thats saying alot..legitimate guards who can fill it up and bigs ...dont say i didnt tell you lol Expand You must know something I don't...one thing Ozen & Central will be missing is that star player I don't see any of the youngsters be able to fulfill that role. Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 On 2/27/2016 at 3:54 PM, Dick Vitale said: Why is it that my question goes unanswered, two days later? I guess I DID shut it down! LOL Expand Your question has nothing to do with our debate your bringing up what other coaches have done and ignoring the obvious. I never said you had to win a state title to be considered a good coach either. Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 I'm still waiting on you Nederland folks to tell me 5 good opponents Nederland beat in the past two years...but their an contender? Lol smh come on Quote
Mamba Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/27/2016 at 9:04 PM, ozensfinest said: You must know something I don't...one thing Ozen & Central will be missing is that star player I don't see any of the youngsters be able to fulfill that role. Expand Just believe me when i say this ...no "STAR" needed this will be a complete team effort... Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 1:34 AM, BlkMamba24 said: Just believe me when i say this ...no "STAR" needed this will be a complete team effort... Expand I think there are some stars in the making... At one school, the star was already there, but baby not in the know haven't seen him yet... Quote
Dick Vitale Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/27/2016 at 9:05 PM, ozensfinest said: Your question has nothing to do with our debate your bringing up what other coaches have done and ignoring the obvious. I never said you had to win a state title to be considered a good coach either. Expand Actually it DOES. If you answer it, you will make my point. You know that I know what I'm talking about, I need you to think about the question more carefully. The debate is about YOUR definition of a coach being average versus really good or great. It's a VERY relevant question. Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 2:41 AM, Dick Vitale said: Actually it DOES. If you answer it, you will make my point. You know that I know what I'm talking about, I need you to think about the question more carefully. The debate is about YOUR definition of a coach being average versus really good or great. It's a VERY relevant question. Expand No my debate is simple....take English's name off his resume look at it and ask yourself is it that of a great coach, good coach, average coach or bad coach? I based my answer solely off his results not that he could/would do anywhere else. You can't honestly look at English resume and say that it's one of a great coach I'm just not buying it. Also you mention that no other coach in SETX had a better body of work than English which is totally absurd IMO. Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 1:34 AM, BlkMamba24 said: Just believe me when i say this ...no "STAR" needed this will be a complete team effort... Expand I'm just going off history...all of Ozen's better teams had a star. The years Ozen hasn't had a star player 2011-2012 Ozen finished like 3rd in the district with multiple losses to Central & Ned. Ozen definitely need to find a star for next year mamba I'm not impressed with a lot of the younger kids on the team. Just look at last night's game I'm almost positive Boyd & Comeaux were responsible for about 90% of Ozen's points last night. I hope we're getting a stud from the 8th grade. Quote
Dick Vitale Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 2:58 AM, ozensfinest said: No my debate is simple....take English's name off his resume look at it and ask yourself is it that of a great coach, good coach, average coach or bad coach? I based my answer solely off his results not that he could/would do anywhere else. You can't honestly look at English resume and say that it's one of a great coach I'm just not buying it. Also you mention that no other coach in SETX had a better body of work than English which is totally absurd IMO. Expand Not true...I made it clear what I was saying. Marquis Savaet has more district titles and a regional championship. Todd Sutherland is in another league altogether. But what English has done at two sub par schools is a heck of an accomplishment. Again, love it or hate it, it's just true. Quote
HSbballFan Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/27/2016 at 9:09 PM, ozensfinest said: I'm still waiting on you Nederland folks to tell me 5 good opponents Nederland beat in the past two years...but their an contender? Lol smh come on Expand Big Sandy, Kountze both years, HJ Both years, Brazosport this year who just won and moved on to the 3rd round. They beat some decent teams man. Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:11 AM, HSbballFan said: Big Sandy, Kountze both years, HJ Both years, Brazosport this year who just won and moved on to the 3rd round. They beat some decent teams man. Expand Lmaoooo you named 3 schools thats not even in the same classification as Ned says it all right there. If Ozen beat on Big Sandy, HJ, & Kountze every year we would get killed. Get out of here Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:11 AM, Dick Vitale said: Not true...I made it clear what I was saying. Marquis Savaet has more district titles and a regional championship. Todd Sutherland is in another league altogether. But what English has done at two sub par schools is a heck of an accomplishment. Again, love it or hate it, it's just true. Expand Lol whats your definition of subpar Walt? Cause IMO Ned is still subpar and so was Vidor when English was there. Quote
HSbballFan Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:16 AM, ozensfinest said: Lmaoooo you named 3 schools thats not even in the same classification as Ned says it all right there. If Ozen beat on Big Sandy, HJ, & Kountze every year we would get killed. Get out of here Expand I don't know that Ozen could beat big Sandy this year. I've watched a fair amount of Basketball and Ktz could hang if not beat Ozen this year as well. I'm not knocking ozen I hope you guys win out and head to state. But A good team is a good team and they (big sandy) beat a few 5A schools this year who are still playing right now. Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:21 AM, HSbballFan said: I don't know that Ozen could beat big Sandy this year. I've watched a fair amount of Basketball and Ktz could hang if not beat Ozen this year as well. I'm not knocking ozen I hope you guys win out and head to state. But A good team is a good team and they (big sandy) beat a few 5A schools this year who are still playing right now. Expand LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:24 AM, ozensfinest said: LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Expand Not really funny. Nederland was winning big against Ozen in both meetings and Ozen had to come fro. Behind... And I believe Big Sandy is better than Nederland. But now, the way that Ozen has been playing these last 4 games, Big Sandy wouldn't win... HSbballFan 1 Quote
TxHoops Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:11 AM, HSbballFan said: Big Sandy, Kountze both years, HJ Both years, Brazosport this year who just won and moved on to the 3rd round. They beat some decent teams man. Expand Actually, Nederland played Big Sandy twice this year. And lost both times. Quote
HSbballFan Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:41 AM, TxHoops said: Actually, Nederland played Big Sandy twice this year. And lost both times. Expand He said " I'm still waiting on you Nederland folks to tell me 5 good opponents Nederland beat in the past two year." But yes you are correct sir a 1 point loss and then a 3 point loss in the HJ tournament. Quote
HSbballFan Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:30 AM, BMTSoulja1 said: Not really funny. Nederland was winning big against Ozen in both meetings and Ozen had to come fro. Behind... And I believe Big Sandy is better than Nederland. But now, the way that Ozen has been playing these last 4 games, Big Sandy wouldn't win... Expand I haven't had a chance to see Ozen play a good game. I've only witnessed the Ned games this year and I wasn't impressed. i'll take your word for it but I think it would be a lot closer game than at ozen's finest thinks. Same with the Ktz game if Ozen played Ktz the way they played against Ned. Arnold would drop 30 and it'd be another close game. Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 Lmaoooo yall really are delusional...Ozen tends to play down it's competition if you think Ned or Big Sandy is anywhere close to being as good as Ozen you're out your minds. Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 Fox example Ozen didn't take New Caney serious and the game end up being kind of close but back door and beat the #2 team in the state. You guys really need to watch more basketball seriously. Quote
TxHoops Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:54 AM, ozensfinest said: Fox example Ozen didn't take New Caney serious and the game end up being kind of close but back door and beat the #2 team in the state. You guys really need to watch more basketball seriously. Expand Says the guy who is not impressed with Atasocita or Fabian White Honest Abe and HSbballFan 2 Quote
TxHoops Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 3:43 AM, HSbballFan said: He said " I'm still waiting on you Nederland folks to tell me 5 good opponents Nederland beat in the past two year." But yes you are correct sir a 1 point loss and then a 3 point loss in the HJ tournament. Expand I gotcha. I wish Saveat would take Sigler up on his offer to play them. My bet is we would hear a little less about losing to teams from lower classifications afterwards. Quote
Tyler Dixson Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 Ozen would dominate Big Sandy. I'd take ozen 15+ Quote
ozensfinest Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 4:03 AM, TxHoops said: I gotcha. I wish Saveat would take Sigler up on his offer to play them. My bet is we would hear a little less about losing to teams from lower classifications afterwards. Expand Lol Silsbee wouldn't beat Ozen...Ozen would beat Silsbee easily what is Silsbee going to do? Press Ozen all game yeah right that kind of ball only works on teams that don't have good guards I.E Central...Keep in mind hoops Bush beat Silsbee by 30 points and we all saw what happened last night. Quote
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