Flashy or methodical basketball

[Guest]

What do you like and for what reason(s) do you like your particular style or brand of basketball?

1) Flashy - uptempo, fast pace, creating turnovers, pressure, transition points, etc.

2) Methodical- many offensive sets, working the clock, movement thru sets, nothing forceful, precise and fundamental, etc.

 

[ST413]

I like to watch fast paced just more exciting.  However, since I am used to watching my Tigers, I wouldn't really consider Big Sandy fast paced although they can definitely play fast at times.  I consider them more deliberate usually and love watching them as well. So I guess as long as it's not painfully slow I like both.  There are good things about both styles for me anyway.

[no-look]

I like up tempo as long as it's controlled. But there is a need for both at times. I like to watch a fast paced game as long as it doesn't get sloppy and out of control. You can play fast paced and smart. But to me there is nothing worse than two teams going at it that's out of control. 

[About a week ago]

Big Sandy plays both, and might be the funniest team to watch. 

[BMTSoulja1]

So I assume this is the classic case of 'Real basketball' vs. 'the rest' ...  Lol

[Kountzer]

A team that can play both styles is a very good team.  Back when PA Lincoln was in control pretty much, they would sometimes run teams out of the gym.  Then again coach Gamble once one a state championship with the score in the 40s.  If the style brings home a trophy no one will know or care when it is all history.  They just remember the championship.

I think Silsbee's coach Sigler does a good job of taking the players he has and making it work. Over the years Tiger teams are usually not that tall.  There are exceptions, but usually they are not.  They are also usually not good jump shooters or free throw shooting teams.  To overcome all that Sigler takes what he has, guard play, athleticism and presses and runs to win games.  I don't know if methodical would work for Silsbee.  It used to back in the day, under coach Dan Montgomery, but that was a long time ago.

[BADSANTA]

Last team that was big was 2010 with the 6'6 and 6'5 kids along with 6'4 Stallworth

[Kountzer]

1 hour ago, BADSANTA said:

Last team that was big was 2010 with the 6'6 and 6'5 kids along with 6'4 Stallworth

That was the last exception I was thinking about.

[Aces_Full]

Good teams can play both.  And I agree, that "good" basketball is fun to watch.  Whether it's the 80's Lakers or 80's Celtics.  Different styles but equally entertaining and effective.  

 

 

[KHSAlum400]

Give me the Nolan Richardson "40 minutes of hell" any game...

[Aces_Full]

Used to love watching Pete Carril's Princeton teams carve more talented teams up.  

[AggiesAreWe]

I prefer watching winning basketball.

[Bigcam2903]

11 hours ago, MOSSHILL said:

What do you like and for what reason(s) do you like your particular style or brand of basketball?

1) Flashy - uptempo, fast pace, creating turnovers, pressure, transition points, etc.

2) Methodical- many offensive sets, working the clock, movement thru sets, nothing forceful, precise and fundamental, etc.

 

Actually, they are both in the same. If you think about it, teams that are able to adapt to other styles of basketball when they can't force their "will" on other teams are your more successful programs. When the game doesn't go to plan, can you adapt & make adjustments. Recipe for Championship pedigree. JMO

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Bigcam2903 said:

Actually, they are both in the same. If you think about it, teams that are able to adapt to other styles of basketball when they can't force their "will" on other teams are your more successful programs. When the game doesn't go to plan, can you adapt & make adjustments. Recipe for Championship pedigree. JMO

If you are watching collegiate basketball, or basketball at the professional level, you are correct.

This is a conversation regarding HS basketball in which those two often NEVER happen together, below the 5A level.

 

[Bigcam2903]

Well, you must be watching some poorly developed programs.  Tempo can change in an instant, depends on who initiates it, If a team decides they want to run or slow it up, the opposing team has to make the adjustment or dictate their own. It's about matchups, a chess match.  Summer basketball has turned into one- on- one watch me do my thang run up and down the floor B.S.  which filters into the HS setting. 

Give me a team any day that can run a half court set & get out & run when necessary, & I'll show you a successful program.   Again, JMO

[About a week ago]

3 minutes ago, Bigcam2903 said:

Well, you must be watching some poorly developed programs.  Tempo can change in an instant, depends on who initiates it, If a team decides they want to run or slow it up, the opposing team has to make the adjustment or dictate their own. It's about matchups, a chess match.  Summer basketball has turned into one- on- one watch me do my thang run up and down the floor B.S.  which filters into the HS setting. 

Give me a team any day that can run a half court set & get out & run when necessary, & I'll show you a successful program.   Again, JMO

Big Sandy

[Bigcam2903]

1 minute ago, About a week ago said:

Big Sandy

Very good program, I've played them in the summer time. That team pushes the tempo, but will set up the half court offense when needed.

[About a week ago]

17 minutes ago, Bigcam2903 said:

Very good program, I've played them in the summer time. That team pushes the tempo, but will set up the half court offense when needed.

I think people see how good they are, and tell when watching them. But i dont think until you play them how good they actually are.

[Kountzer]

Maybe I'll watch Big Sandy when they are on television in SA.  If they make it that is.  More than likely they will, but never say never.

[Lightning/Eagle]

14 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

So I assume this is the classic case of 'Real basketball' vs. 'the rest' ...  Lol

I'll take the bait

I prefer the traditional approach. Yes that does include pressure and traps defensively, but also the ability to actually run your offense. Love to see a team that can actually shoot mid range jumpers off a pick.

[BMTSoulja1]

15 minutes ago, Lightning/Eagle said:

I'll take the bait

I prefer the traditional approach. Yes that does include pressure and traps defensively, but also the ability to actually run your offense. Love to see a team that can actually shoot mid range jumpers off a pick.

Lol.  I know I'd catch one.  Lol

[RaiderRed30]

The best teams are usually ones that can play both, but I'll choose a mixture.

Offense: Plays fast and crashes the boards.
Defense: Slows it down and plays physical. The teams that win state need to be able to play shut down defense.

You can score a 100 and lose, but can score 1 and win.

[Guest]

Any further comments ?

[whsalum]

Pressing , trapping defenses will win you a lot ballgames until you run up against a club with really good ball handling guards . If that is your only avenue to score , off turnovers , then you are dead in the water. In a possession type ball game there is no substitute for  teams that know how to screen and move, spread the the floor and shoot ! 

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

20 hours ago, MOSSHILL said:

Any further comments ?

I'll just agree with BigCam.  I think they won 3 State Championships under 2 legendary coaches (Gamble & Boutte) his 4 years in high school.  I always defer to the experts.