22-5A

[RaiderGirl2010]

So with Lumberton winning at Nederland Tuesday looks like it might be a fun second half of district. 

How do y'all see it going?

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

You are right about it being a fun and interesting second half.  Whoever slips up between Nederland, Vidor and Lumberton will be sitting at home come playoffs.  With us being a young team, I like our chances.  We might be starting to gel at just the right time.  Let's hope for an injury-free second half for all teams.

[fox]

with 3 teams at 4-3 there will be some big games the second half. when the season started i thought lumberton was better than vidor or nederland.

lumberton better hope that project graduation don't have any events planned around their big games or they may not make the playoffs......

[spoonbill]

If not for the win at Nederland by the Raiders, I would say they're toast. Three out of four of their remaining tough games are on the road. They have a tough run in the second half but their best pitcher should be rested up and be able to pitch in three out of the four tough games if everything goes well.

[RaiderGirl2010]

So the last 4 games are going to make the district a little crazy depending on who wins what games.

Port Neches-Groves 9-1    With at Nederland, home Ozen, at Central and home Vidor

Goose Creek Memorial 9-1 With at Vidor, home Lumberton, at Nederland and home Ozen

Nederland 7-3 With home PNG, at Lee, home GCM and at Lumberton

Lumberton 6-4 With home Lee, at GCM, at Vidor and home Nederland

Vidor 5-5 With home GCM, at Central, home Lumber and at PNG

Baytown Lee 2-8 With at Lumberton, home Nederland, at Ozen and home Central

Ozen 1-9  With home Central, at PNG, home Lee, and at GCM

Central 1-9 With at Ozen, home Vidor, home PNG and at Lee

 

[NDOMAKONG]

Looks like the playoff spots are locked up and just playing for seeding, shouldn't be anything too crazy.

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

Here are the current district records and remaining games for the 3 teams fighting for 2 spots:

Nederland 7-4 -- @ Lee, vs GCM, @ Lumberton

Lumberton 6-4 -- vs Lee, @ GCM, @ Vidor, vs Nederland

Vidor 5-5 -- vs GCM, @ Central, vs Lumberton, @ PNG

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

Vidor beating GCM has made things even more interesting.  3 big games for all 3 teams this week.  Who you got? 

[spoonbill]

Whoever wins the Lumberton/Vidor game most likely gets the 4th spot.

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

Here are the current district records and remaining games for the 3 teams fighting for 2 spots:

Nederland 7-4 -- @ Lee, vs GCM, @ Lumberton

Lumberton 7-4 -- @ GCM, @ Vidor, vs Nederland

Vidor 6-5 -- @ Central, vs Lumberton, @ PNG

[RaiderGirl2010]

If playoffs started today wouldn't Lumberton get 3rd for beating ned already? I hope Lumberton can go out and beat GCM tonight

[AshlyHasBeen]

Nederland is 8-4, they beat Lee 7-1

[AshlyHasBeen]

Vidor will make up their game with Central Wednesday.

[Ned Nederlander]

Anyone know how district tie-breaker rules work?

[AshlyHasBeen]

Head to head is the first tiebreaker in 22-5A. 

14. TIE-BREAKERS A. If two teams are tied then the first tiebreaker is head to head. If the two teams have a split then a single game will be played to determine seeding. (Coaches may agree to not play and agree on seeding.)

B. If more than two teams are tied a mini single elimination tournament will be played to determine seeding.

1) If 3 teams are tied a mini tournament will be played and a coin flip will determine which team gets the bye in a 3 team bracket. All 3 teams flip a coin and the odd coin gets the bye. The other two teams play each other with winner playing the team that got the bye. This tournament will be played on consecutive days. (Coaches may agree to not play and agree on sedding, but all must agree.)

2) If 4 or more teams are tied then a mini tournament will be played. Seeding for the tournament will be determined by drawing numbers from a hat. 1 will play 4 and 2 will play 3 and then the winners will play. (If losers of 1 st two games need to play for a 3rd and/or 4th seed then that game will also be played but only if necessary.) (Coaches may agree to not play and agree on seeding, but all must agree.) This tournament will be played on consecutive days.

3) If more than 5 teams are tied then a tournament will be played following rules of (B). This tournament will be played on consecutive days.

[Bigdog]

Division 22-5a Standings - 2016

District Overall

	W	L		W	L	T
Port Neches-Grove Indians	11	1		16	7	0
Goose Creek Memorial Patriots	9	2		14	6	1
Nederland Bulldogs	8	4		12	10	0
Lumberton Raiders	7	4		11	8	0
Vidor Pirates	6	5		10	9	0
Baytown Lee Ganders	2	10		4	17	0
Beaumont Central Jaguars	1	8		2	11	0
Beaumont Ozen Panthers	0	10		0	13	0

Games Left:  PNG : @Central -4/26  Vidor - 4/29

                      GCM:  Lumberton , @Nederland 4/26

                      Nederland:  GCM-4/26  , @Lum -4/29

                      Lumberton:  @GCM, Nederland -4/29

                      Vidor :  Lum , PNG

 

[cajundog123]

Its gonna be interesting to see how it unfolds. I think Nederland can beat Goose Creek and Lumberton.

I think PNG will take care of Vidor on Friday.

how Many games does Goose Creek still have?

[RaiderGirl2010]

Lumberton beat Ned the first time. GCM has I know Nederland tomorrow but not sure I think Ozen maybe the last. 

[AshlyHasBeen]

Remaining schedules and results from first meeting.

PNG (11-1)

at Central (PNG 17-1)

vs Vidor (PNG 2-0)

 

GCM (10-2)

at Nederland GCM 4-1)

vs Ozen (GCM 13-0)

 

Nederland (8-4)

vs GCM (GCM 4-1)

at Lumberton (LUM 7-5)

 

Lumberton (7-5)

at Vidor (VID 13-2)

vs Nederland (LUM 7-5)

 

Vidor (6-5)

vs Lumberton (VID 13-2)

at Central (VID 11-1)

at PNG (PNG 2-0)

[Bigdog]

PNG and GCM are in,  Ned should clinch a playoff spot if they win vs GCM tonight.  Lumberton should be in the drivers seat for the fourth spot if they beat Vidor tonight even though Vidor has 3 games left vs. two for Lumberton.

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

If I understand the 22-5A tiebreakers correctly, a loss to Vidor tonight will effectively eliminate any playoff hopes for Lumberton.  That is assuming that Vidor beats Central this week.  Am I looking at this wrong?

 

[VP93....]

44 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

If I understand the 22-5A tiebreakers correctly, a loss to Vidor tonight will effectively eliminate any playoff hopes for Lumberton.  That is assuming that Vidor beats Central this week.  Am I looking at this wrong?

 

No, if Lumberton losses and Nederland wins then Lumbertons out. But if they both lose then it will come down to Thursdays game between them two. If Lumberton was to win that one then the tie breaker rule would take place because Vidor would have beaten Lumberton twice and Lumberton would have beaten Nederland twice. Now if Vidor was to pull a upset and beat PNG then Lumberton would be in if they win Thursday. 

[VP93....]

43 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

If I understand the 22-5A tiebreakers correctly, a loss to Vidor tonight will effectively eliminate any playoff hopes for Lumberton.  That is assuming that Vidor beats Central this week.  Am I looking at this wrong?

 

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[Bigdog]

1 hour ago, VP93.... said:

No, if Lumberton losses and Nederland wins then Lumbertons out. But if they both lose then it will come down to Thursdays game between them two. If Lumberton was to win that one then the tie breaker rule would take place because Vidor would have beaten Lumberton twice and Lumberton would have beaten Nederland twice. Now if Vidor was to pull a upset and beat PNG then Lumberton would be in if they win Thursday. 

Not necessarily. 

District Overall

	W	L		W	L	T
Port Neches-Grove Indians	11	1		16	7	0
Goose Creek Memorial Patriots	10	2		14	6	1
Nederland Bulldogs	8	4		12	10	0
Lumberton Raiders	7	5		11	8	0
Vidor Pirates	6	5		10	9	0
Baytown Lee Ganders	2	10		4	17	0
Beaumont Central Jaguars	1	8		2	11	0
Beaumont Ozen Panthers	0	10		0	13	0

4/26 games -  Ned loses (8-5)

                       Lum loses (7-6)

                       Vidor wins (7-5)

Vidor wins vs Central (8-5)

4/29 games - Ned loses (8-6)

                      Lum wins (8-6)

                     Vidor loses (8-6)

In this scenario they play a mini tournament. (3 way tie rule.)

 

[NDOMAKONG]

Lumberton and Nederland still have to play their last game, so Lumberton beat Nederland the first time doesn't mean anything.... yet.