bullets13 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Wait, did you just say that common sense dictates that homosexuality should be a crime? That might be the most absurd thing I've read in this forum, and there's been a lot of crazy tinfoil hat stuff on here. Common sense would dictate that what two consenting adults decide to do is their choice, and of no concern to law enforcement, or anybody else, for that matter. Out of curiosity, should all sin be a crime? What about the ones YOU commit? Time to throw every teenage boy ever in the clink for lustful thoughts and masturbation! Or just "the gays" because they gross you out? And as for NAMBLA arguing that they're the same class as homosexuals, that doesn't mean it is, unless you're saying you respect their position on the matter. Westboro baptist church claims to be good upstanding Christians, but I doubt most Christians would agree. Quote
jv_coach Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Are saying that people who put another persons poop on their _____ or that put things up their __________ is common sense thinking? No all sin is not a crime, thoughts are not criminal actions are. Let us look at sins. Is it lawful to be drunk in public? Is it lawful to take a life without cause? Is it lawful for two adults to smoke meth in the privacy of their own home? Westboro Baptist pervert what God says is truth and queers pervert what God says is truth. Quote
stevenash Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 10 hours ago, bullets13 said: I'm sure there will be a movement by pedophiles for that (I believe NAMBLA is a real thing that's been around forever attempting to gain rights for pedofiles with no success), but it won't be gaining any traction. I would not be surprised at all if the second hypothetical you suggest comes to pass. While I wouldn't support that movement, I must point out that you're lumping pedofiles and transgenders together, now the 3rd conservative to do so in this thread, and this after you feigned offense at my suggestion that conservatives were often guilty of doing so. No lumping here. Just decided to ask the second question rather than starting a new thread. There was nothing "feigned" when I suggested you were referring to conservatives in general rather than specific ones. Its no different than the theory that you shouldn't criticize all Muslims for the acts of Muslim terrorists. 77 and 5GallonBucket 2 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 did you know that rapist and pedophiles do less time than drug dealers.....hmmmm good ole govt. Quote
UTfanatic Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 10 hours ago, jv_coach said: Well God, common sense and moral absolutes would disagree with your homosexuality should never been a crime....NAMBLA would argue that they are the same thing.....I will not go for the bait and switch......You say legalizing pedophilia is obviously a wrong, and that liberals would never push for pedophilia, but they are cool with duded going into a womens bathroom. Of course they would be agianst rapeing the child but if the child consented they would be all for it LGBT POSITIONS GLSEN and PFLAG websites and literature promote the following positions: 1. Early sexualization of children can be beneficial Virtually any consensual sexual activity, as well as exposure to graphic sexual images and material, is not only permissible, but good for children, as part of the process of discovering their sexuality. 2. “Coming out” (publically identifying oneself as homosexual) and beginning homosexual sex practices at a young age is a normal and positive experience for youth which should be encouraged by teachers and parents. 3. Bisexuality, “fluid” sexuality, and sexual experimentation is a right for all students, and all students should learn about these options. The GLSEN teachers’ manual that says that middle-schoolers “should have the freedom to explore [their] sexual orientation and find [their] own unique expression of lesbian, bisexual, gay, straight, or any combination of these.” This is a call for pansexual experimentation. 4. Meeting other “gay” and “questioning” youth, usually without parental knowledge, is a frequent theme. At these meetings minors come into contact with college-age youth and adults practicing homosexuality. 5. “Cool” adults, parents, teachers and counselors are those who encourage students to embrace homosexuality and cross-dressing. “Cool” adults also permit adult-level freedoms and let children associate with questionable teens or adults. 6. Religious beliefs that are anti-homosexual are homophobic and bigoted, which justifies misquoting them, providing hostile, one-sided anti-religion vignettes and opinions, and distributing false and misleading information about religious positions on homosexuality. 7. Homosexuality is genetic and unchangeable, and ex-homosexuals should not be allowed to tell students how they changed their sexual orientation and behavior. Scary, This would never happen in my time........ wait OK, my parents time! smh Hagar and 5GallonBucket 2 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 10 hours ago, jv_coach said: Well God, common sense and moral absolutes would disagree with your homosexuality should never been a crime....NAMBLA would argue that they are the same thing.....I will not go for the bait and switch......You say legalizing pedophilia is obviously a wrong, and that liberals would never push for pedophilia, but they are cool with duded going into a womens bathroom. Of course they would be agianst rapeing the child but if the child consented they would be all for it LGBT POSITIONS GLSEN and PFLAG websites and literature promote the following positions: 1. Early sexualization of children can be beneficial Virtually any consensual sexual activity, as well as exposure to graphic sexual images and material, is not only permissible, but good for children, as part of the process of discovering their sexuality. 2. “Coming out” (publically identifying oneself as homosexual) and beginning homosexual sex practices at a young age is a normal and positive experience for youth which should be encouraged by teachers and parents. 3. Bisexuality, “fluid” sexuality, and sexual experimentation is a right for all students, and all students should learn about these options. The GLSEN teachers’ manual that says that middle-schoolers “should have the freedom to explore [their] sexual orientation and find [their] own unique expression of lesbian, bisexual, gay, straight, or any combination of these.” This is a call for pansexual experimentation. 4. Meeting other “gay” and “questioning” youth, usually without parental knowledge, is a frequent theme. At these meetings minors come into contact with college-age youth and adults practicing homosexuality. 5. “Cool” adults, parents, teachers and counselors are those who encourage students to embrace homosexuality and cross-dressing. “Cool” adults also permit adult-level freedoms and let children associate with questionable teens or adults. 6. Religious beliefs that are anti-homosexual are homophobic and bigoted, which justifies misquoting them, providing hostile, one-sided anti-religion vignettes and opinions, and distributing false and misleading information about religious positions on homosexuality. 7. Homosexuality is genetic and unchangeable, and ex-homosexuals should not be allowed to tell students how they changed their sexual orientation and behavior. And people actually defend these people.... UTfanatic 1 Quote
baddog Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 God did not create Adam and Larry. Sports10 and UTfanatic 2 Quote
UTfanatic Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, baddog said: God did not create Adam and Larry. Lol Quote
bullets13 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 10 hours ago, jv_coach said: Are saying that people who put another persons poop on their _____ or that put things up their __________ is common sense thinking? No all sin is not a crime, thoughts are not criminal actions are. Let us look at sins. Is it lawful to be drunk in public? Is it lawful to take a life without cause? Is it lawful for two adults to smoke meth in the privacy of their own home? Westboro Baptist pervert what God says is truth and queers pervert what God says is truth. I'm saying that just because it's not something you or i would ever do does not, and should not make it a crime. Quote
bullets13 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 1 hour ago, stevenash said: No lumping here. Just decided to ask the second question rather than starting a new thread. There was nothing "feigned" when I suggested you were referring to conservatives in general rather than specific ones. Its no different than the theory that you shouldn't criticize all Muslims for the acts of Muslim terrorists. Several on here do that constantly. What's your opinion on the matter? Quote
stevenash Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 To which matter are you referring? The one pertaining to the subject of the thread or co-mingling pedophiles with gays or something else? Quote
Hagar Posted May 2, 2016 Author Report Posted May 2, 2016 3 hours ago, bullets13 said: Several on here do that constantly. What's your opinion on the matter? I think you referring to critizing all Muslims for the acts of Muslim Terrorist. If that's the case, I'm one of them, and I have my reasons. Based on information since 9/11/2001, I can only assume that most Muslims believe their Quran wishes all non-believers (Christians especially) dead. The fact that you rarely hear any outrage from any Muslims over the atrocities committed, only reinforces my belief. Add to that the impossibility of telling which might be the few good Muslims from all the bad, I simply lump them all as bad. If Muslims merely thot of me as a sinner, or a bad person, or that I was going to hell, that would not be a problem to me. Problem is, they want me and my whole family dead, and most people on this Forum. That's over the line, so pardon me if I go a little over the line. Sports10, 5GallonBucket, UTfanatic and 1 other 4 Quote
stevenash Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 35 minutes ago, REBgp said: I think you referring to critizing all Muslims for the acts of Muslim Terrorist. If that's the case, I'm one of them, and I have my reasons. Based on information since 9/11/2001, I can only assume that most Muslims believe their Quran wishes all non-believers (Christians especially) dead. The fact that you rarely hear any outrage from any Muslims over the atrocities committed, only reinforces my belief. Add to that the impossibility of telling which might be the few good Muslims from all the bad, I simply lump them all as bad. If Muslims merely thot of me as a sinner, or a bad person, or that I was going to hell, that would not be a problem to me. Problem is, they want me and my whole family dead, and most people on this Forum. That's over the line, so pardon me if I go a little over the line. Very politically incorrect of you REBgp. Since you are a white conservative Christian, prepare to be labeled as racist, sexist, homophobe and islamaphobe Quote
Hagar Posted May 2, 2016 Author Report Posted May 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, stevenash said: Very politically incorrect of you REBgp. Since you are a white conservative Christian, prepare to be labeled as racist, sexist, homophone and islamaphobe I know sn. I've learned to tolerate a lot of things in my life, but I will never accept the Muslim religion, as anything but a danger to those I love. Nor will I ever understand anyone who is not Muslim, accepting them with open arms. Before I get another label, let me say I've worked with several Muslims. One was a really nice fellow, and imo, he'd be labeled as a good one. Another I didn't know as well, but respected his exceptional performance at work. It's just this repeated calls for our deaths we're inundated with, and the senseless slaughter of Americans, has gotten my back against the wall. Quote
bullets13 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 30 minutes ago, stevenash said: Very politically incorrect of you REBgp. Since you are a white conservative Christian, prepare to be labeled as racist, sexist, homophobe and islamaphobe how many times has someone made a statement like the one REB just made, and YOU come on and be the one to throw those terms around? I know it happens an awful lot. Quote
baddog Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Liked your post REB. My sentiments exactly. I don't care about offending someone if it helps me and my family survive. Actually, I don't care if I offend anyone anyway. We all have our beliefs and we are all prejudiced in some form or fashion. I know I am and I am man enough to admit it. Never worked with a Muslim. Didn't know they were working class people. Now, back to the topic of pedofiles and their future rights. To hell with mine. Quote
stevenash Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 1 hour ago, bullets13 said: how many times has someone made a statement like the one REB just made, and YOU come on and be the one to throw those terms around? I know it happens an awful lot. Yes it does- And it usually stops the hackneyed, trite, and banal accusations. Additionally, it's my way of taking a jab at those who take PC stuff to extremes. Quote
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