Hagar Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 If you live in a country where you can be arrested for fishing without a license.....but not for entering that country illegally, it's safe to say that country is run by idiots. Someone had this on another site with a picture, but this is the best I can do. Don't know who the author was, just wanted to share the irony. 77, LumRaiderFan and UTfanatic 3 Quote
tvc184 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, REBgp said: If you live in a country where you can be arrested for fishing without a license.....but not for entering that country illegally, it's safe to say that country is run by idiots. Someone had this on another site with a picture, but this is the best I can do. Don't know who the author was, just wanted to share the irony. I kind of hear what you're saying however for the most part you're wrong. Fishing without a license is a state law and whether you could be arrested varies from state to state. In some states you cannot be arrested for an offense that allows for a citation. Immigration is under federal law per the Constitution and has absolutely nothing to do with state law as does fishing licenses. Illegal entry into the United States is seen much like trespassing. In Texas for example you're never trespassing unless you have been given proper warning as described by law. It is the same with entry into the United States. If a person comes over the border without proper documentation and is caught, he should be sent back by law and given a warning. If that person reenters the United States he has committed a felony. We have people they get caught time and time again. The problem is not the law but the person in charge not enforcing the law. Like many of these political arguments, the person writing them has no clue of the law. They make these memes/photos and post them on Facebook and get 10,000 likes… But the law they talk about is not factual. Go figure. So here is the answer. Texas (and other states) has autonomy to make it's own laws. . Texas have a law where you can go to jail for most things that can be issued a citation including things like no fishing license, having a burned out license plate light or not using your blinker when turning in the vehicle. The United States has a law that says you can be charged with a felony if entering United States illegally as long as you have been given that first warning. Texas law and United States law are independent and do not depend on each other. Any comparison between the two is a folly to begin with and one has nothing to do with the other. So I understand the complaint that the current occupant of the White House does not wish to enforce the laws that he does not like. That has nothing to do with Texas having the authority to arrest minor criminals or the United States having a law that allows the arrest of the illegal aliens but the guy at the top just doesn't like it. Bobcat1 1 Quote
baddog Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 3 hours ago, REBgp said: If you live in a country where you can be arrested for fishing without a license.....but not for entering that country illegally, it's safe to say that country is run by idiots. Someone had this on another site with a picture, but this is the best I can do. Don't know who the author was, just wanted to share the irony. How about this? In the country illegally and standing beside you fishing without a license. UTfanatic 1 Quote
UTfanatic Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 How about this! Shoot an illegal deer out of season and feed it to the illegal immigrants. 2 hours ago, tvc184 said: I kind of hear what you're saying however for the most part you're wrong. Fishing without a license is a state law and whether you could be arrested varies from state to state. In some states you cannot be arrested for an offense that allows for a citation. Immigration is under federal law per the Constitution and has absolutely nothing to do with state law as does fishing licenses. Illegal entry into the United States is seen much like trespassing. In Texas for example you're never trespassing unless you have been given proper warning as described by law. It is the same with entry into the United States. If a person comes over the border without proper documentation and is caught, he should be sent back by law and given a warning. If that person reenters the United States he has committed a felony. We have people they get caught time and time again. The problem is not the law but the person in charge not enforcing the law. Like many of these political arguments, the person writing them has no clue of the law. They make these memes/photos and post them on Facebook and get 10,000 likes… But the law they talk about is not factual. Go figure. So here is the answer. Texas (and other states) has autonomy to make it's own laws. . Texas have a law where you can go to jail for most things that can be issued a citation including things like no fishing license, having a burned out license plate light or not using your blinker when turning in the vehicle. The United States has a law that says you can be charged with a felony if entering United States illegally as long as you have been given that first warning. Texas law and United States law are independent and do not depend on each other. Any comparison between the two is a folly to begin with and one has nothing to do with the other. So I understand the complaint that the current occupant of the White House does not wish to enforce the laws that he does not like. That has nothing to do with Texas having the authority to arrest minor criminals or the United States having a law that allows the arrest of the illegal aliens but the guy at the top just doesn't like it. Quote
tvc184 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 4 hours ago, baddog said: How about this? In the country illegally and standing beside you fishing without a license. Illegal on both counts and the state will take action. Quote
baddog Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, tvc184 said: Illegal on both counts and the state will take action. Cool, I was making a funny. Your chief is retiring. You up for the job? Quote
Hagar Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Posted May 17, 2016 1 hour ago, baddog said: Cool, I was making a funny. Your chief is retiring. You up for the job? You can put me down as a character reference, but then you wouldn't get it Quote
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