Societal Decline

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[baddog]

43 minutes ago, stevenash said:

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No one would listen to us. They tought we were bigotted a holes. Now let's see who starts discriminating.

[stevenash]

The left will embrace/promote this just like all the other issues

[77]

Yes they will! Sick folks.

[bullets13]

Since the propaganda piece you posted provided many quote attributions with no links, I googled the one that I figured would be easiest to prove/disprove, which was that a democratic Florida representative named Alcee Hastings stated that pedophilia should be protected under law as a sexual orientation.  This in fact has been circulated by several fake news sites (such as allenbwest.com), but I could find no links from legitimate news sources confirming it.  I also found several sites stating that this claim by these right wing sites was false, but they're the kind of sites you guys only believe when they say what you want to hear (such as allenbwest.com).  That being said, the incident in question occurred in 2009, not days after gay marriage was legalized as this "article" would have you believe.  

So to recap, you have a propoganda piece full of "research" with no links to any of that research, but the "news piece" wants to link legalized gay marriage to legalized pedophilia through said "research".  The one unattributed "fact" that I checked was dubious at best, and even if it wasn't an obvious misrepresentation by the right (which of course it is), it occurred 6 years before this article insinuates that it occurred, rendering the connection the piece is trying to make with it utterly false.

[stevenash]

45 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Since the propaganda piece you posted provided many quote attributions with no links, I googled the one that I figured would be easiest to prove/disprove, which was that a democratic Florida representative named Alcee Hastings stated that pedophilia should be protected under law as a sexual orientation.  This in fact has been circulated by several fake news sites (such as allenbwest.com), but I could find no links from legitimate news sources confirming it.  I also found several sites stating that this claim by these right wing sites was false, but they're the kind of sites you guys only believe when they say what you want to hear (such as allenbwest.com).  That being said, the incident in question occurred in 2009, not days after gay marriage was legalized as this "article" would have you believe.  

So to recap, you have a propoganda piece full of "research" with no links to any of that research, but the "news piece" wants to link legalized gay marriage to legalized pedophilia through said "research".  The one unattributed "fact" that I checked was dubious at best, and even if it wasn't an obvious misrepresentation by the right (which of course it is), it occurred 6 years before this article insinuates that it occurred, rendering the connection the piece is trying to make with it utterly false.

Then, if I am understanding you correctly, all of the statements regarding the APA are untrue and never took place?  Additionally, the statements by Mr. Van Gijseghem and Mr. Diamond are untrue as well and were never spoken?  The Harvard Health Publications stating that Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change is also untrue?  And you personally do not believe, under any circumstance, that, in the future, there will be a movement to legitimize pedophiles?

[baddog]

Bullets....what you fail to understand is this is some of the stuff I was referring to when I posted on gay marriage was that it was not about marriage, it was a step towards legalizing anything goes. Cant say pedophilia was high on my list, but I said it would have a snowball effect....which it already has.

[bullets13]

4 hours ago, stevenash said:

Then, if I am understanding you correctly, all of the statements regarding the APA are untrue and never took place?  Additionally, the statements by Mr. Van Gijseghem and Mr. Diamond are untrue as well and were never spoken?  The Harvard Health Publications stating that Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change is also untrue?  And you personally do not believe, under any circumstance, that, in the future, there will be a movement to legitimize pedophiles?

The first and only statement in the article that I tried to verify proved misleading and false in both what actually happened and when it happened.  Forgive me for stopping there.  

As for the movement to legalize pedophilia, I have no doubt that pedophiles would love to have it legalized, but there will never be any traction.  I'm sure there are a handful of ultra liberals nutsos who would argue for its legality, but there's a handful of conservative nutsos with equally offensive views on other issues

[LumRaiderFan]

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

The first and only statement in the article that I tried to verify proved misleading and false in both what actually happened and when it happened.  Forgive me for stopping there.  

As for the movement to legalize pedophilia, I have no doubt that pedophiles would love to have it legalized, but there will never be any traction.  I'm sure there are a handful of ultra liberals nutsos who would argue for its legality, but there's a handful of conservative nutsos with equally offensive views on other issues

And who will draw that line to keep that from happening...those hypocritical Christians?

Seriously, who will stop them...you liberals?

[bullets13]

34 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

And who will draw that line to keep that from happening...those hypocritical Christians?

Seriously, who will stop them...you liberals?

Believe it or not, one does not have to be a Christian OR a conservative to have a problem with adults raping children.

[stevenash]

11 hours ago, bullets13 said:

The first and only statement in the article that I tried to verify proved misleading and false in both what actually happened and when it happened.  Forgive me for stopping there.  

As for the movement to legalize pedophilia, I have no doubt that pedophiles would love to have it legalized, but there will never be any traction.  I'm sure there are a handful of ultra liberals nutsos who would argue for its legality, but there's a handful of conservative nutsos with equally offensive views on other issues

Then maybe the reason for concern, which was provided in parts of the article beyond the first statement, is not as invalid or preposterous as you implied?

[nappyroots]

Its ok to have an opinion on things, but facts don't seem to matter

[Hagar]

3 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

Its ok to have an opinion on things, but facts don't seem to matter

Well sure facts matter.  Liberals have taken prayer out of school.  Created a Welfare system to perpetuate slavery.  Approved gay marriage.   Ordered High Schools to allow boys and girls to shower and change clothes together.   Those are the facts and they are irrefutable.   If you like all those things, you must be ecstatic.

[nappyroots]

We do have a congress that is controlled by conservatives......thats right they are just in office for the free stuff, they do nothing, thats why their rating is so low

[Hagar]

2 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

We do have a congress that is controlled by conservatives......thats right they are just in office for the free stuff, they do nothing, thats why their rating is so low

Wrong again nap, at least the first line.  But to be fair, you got some of it right.  Hopefully, if you hang out here long enough, you'll actually learn something (I know I do).   Congress is not controlled by conservatives.   It's controlled by Republicans.  Unlike the Dems, who have to be liberal, the Repubs are not all conservative, although I wish they were.  Of the original 16 vying for the Repub nomination, maybe half were conservative.   As for as the ratings, they're almost always low, regardless of which party's in power.   And in it for the "free stuff", I think you pegged the vast majority of Congress, R & D.  And isn't that sad.

[Englebert]

57 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

We do have a congress that is controlled by conservatives......thats right they are just in office for the free stuff, they do nothing, thats why their rating is so low

So if the Republican controlled Congress does nothing (as you say), why are they constantly blamed for blocking Obama's socialist agenda?

[stevenash]

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[Englebert]

I'm curious as to when the first person will sue, claiming they got a bladder infection, or maybe will just claim mental stress for getting "stage fright" in the restroom due to the other gender being present, preventing them from completing the task at hand.

[stevenash]

46 minutes ago, Englebert said:

I'm curious as to when the first person will sue, claiming they got a bladder infection, or maybe will just claim mental stress for getting "stage fright" in the restroom due to the other gender being present, preventing them from completing the task at hand.

When we are all "truly equal" ( and that glorious day seems to be getting closer) there will be no gender consideration.

[5GallonBucket]

On ‎5‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 11:32 PM, bullets13 said:

Believe it or not, one does not have to be a Christian OR a conservative to have a problem with adults raping children.

since your in law enforcement....when the laws change for pedophilia will you still enforce the law?  YES OR NO is all I need from ya.

[5GallonBucket]

13 hours ago, stevenash said:

When we are all "truly equal" ( and that glorious day seems to be getting closer) there will be no gender consideration.

Yeah buddy

[bullets13]

48 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

since your in law enforcement....when the laws change for pedophilia will you still enforce the law?  YES OR NO is all I need from ya.

I'm still in the process of trying to get in law enforcement, but seeing as the laws will not change for pedophilia, that will not be an issue I have to deal with.

[5GallonBucket]

12 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

I'm still in the process of trying to get in law enforcement, but seeing as the laws will not change for pedophilia, that will not be an issue I have to deal with.

Can't answer a simple question?

Same thing people said about a lot of things 20, 30, 40 years ago. 

[LumRaiderFan]

On 5/30/2016 at 11:32 PM, bullets13 said:

Believe it or not, one does not have to be a Christian OR a conservative to have a problem with adults raping children.

But they are the only ones that will not allow groups like NAMBLA  to continue to gain ground.

Liberals are the ones that couldn't care less about young children being exposed to transgenders in locker rooms and bathrooms.

They have no firm "line in the sand" on morality so with each generation it continues to move.

Liberals have so much criticism for the Christian when Christians are the ones that travel all around the globe, at their own expense,  providing help to those in need.

Not directing this at you Bullets, but there is a growing numbers of liberals in this country that have the anything goes attitude when it comes to moral issues.

[bullets13]

5 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

Can't answer a simple question?

Same thing people said about a lot of things 20, 30, 40 years ago. 

I did answer a simple question.  the answer to your simple question was "as the laws will not change for pedophilia, that will not be an issue i have to deal with".  That being said, your question was if the law changed on pedophilia, would i still enforce the law.  I'm not sure what law i would enforce if the rules changed making it legal.  I could not arrest a pedophile, and if i did, not only would I myself be breaking the law, but no jail would accept them for breaking a law that no longer exists.  But no worries, because like i said in my original point, the laws are not going to change on pedophilia, so i don't have to worry about that.