stevenash Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Big Girl, you keep on touting Hillary as the right candidate for President due to her "experience" and you have used the analogy that when you have heart surgery, you don't want a dermatologist, but rather a heart surgeon to do the work. Along those same lines, I will ask you a related question. Dr. Jeremy Siegel is the head of the Prestigious Wharton School of Business and speaks on television daily about the financial markets. If you were starting a new technology business, would you rather have Mr. Siegel run it or a couple of college dropouts named Bill Gates and Steve Jobs? Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Come on Big Girl- I want the "enlightened" viewpoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappyroots Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 4 hours ago, stevenash said: Big Girl, you keep on touting Hillary as the right candidate for President due to her "experience" and you have used the analogy that when you have heart surgery, you don't want a dermatologist, but rather a heart surgeon to do the work. Along those same lines, I will ask you a related question. Dr. Jeremy Siegel is the head of the Prestigious Wharton School of Business and speaks on television daily about the financial markets. If you were starting a new technology business, would you rather have Mr. Siegel run it or a couple of college dropouts named Bill Gates and Steve Jobs? Why didn't you use Donald trump for an example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 33 minutes ago, nappyroots said: Why didn't you use Donald trump for an example You are unable to figure that out? Mr. Trump is an accomplished businessman . Mrs. Clinton has zero business experience. All of her experience comes from collecting and spending taxes and foundation contributions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappyroots Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 On 6/16/2016 at 2:41 PM, stevenash said: You are unable to figure that out? Mr. Trump is an accomplished businessman . Mrs. Clinton has zero business experience. All of her experience comes from collecting and spending taxes and foundation contributions You guys were not on the trump bandwagon when this process started. Most jumped on it when they saw he would win. Mr cruz and Mr Rubio seemed to be the favorites back them. Trump won by attacking his opponents personally and being racist against minorities, which appeals to the Republican base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I said Trump would be the nominee after I saw how much negative attention he was garnering. You are fueling his fire with your negative comments. Instead of always saying what is wrong with your world, why not accentuate the positives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silsbee92 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, nappyroots said: You guys were not on the trump bandwagon when this process started. Most jumped on it when they saw he would win. Mr cruz and Mr Rubio seemed to be the favorites back them. Trump won by attacking his opponents personally and being racist against minorities, which appeals to the Republican base. Which part appeals to the "Republican Base"? I would caution to lumping everyone together under that mantel, because NO party can claim to be innocent of either. Everyone is a racist these days it seems. Especially if there is a disagreement between moral and cultural ideals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, nappyroots said: You guys were not on the trump bandwagon when this process started. Most jumped on it when they saw he would win. Mr cruz and Mr Rubio seemed to be the favorites back them. Trump won by attacking his opponents personally and being racist against minorities, which appeals to the Republican base. I suspect my definition of racism and yours differs substantially. As an example, every time someone disagrees with Mr. Obama, you and your crew start crying racism. I understand the problems that exist when it comes to race relations but many of you have gone too far when it comes to those accusations. An example of that is that so many push the agenda that white cops are now generally regarded as bad guys and they are actively seeking to harm black people. That is such a crock and I don't mind expressing myself when it comes to that. Of course, your crowd immediately identifies that response as racism as well. Just as an aside, I have several mixed marriages within my family and my immediate supervisor for 8 recent years was an African American with whom I got along quite well. So I hope you can understand how I am offended every time someone launches the "race" grenade. Some shrink/back off when it gets lobbed at them but it happens to embolden me because I know where I stand on this issue far better than any of the "lobbers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silsbee92 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, stevenash said: I suspect my definition of racism and yours differs substantially. As an example, every time someone disagrees with Mr. Obama, you and your crew start crying racism. I understand the problems that exist when it comes to race relations but many of you have gone too far when it comes to those accusations. An example of that is that so many push the agenda that white cops are now generally regarded as bad guys and they are actively seeking to harm black people. That is such a crock and I don't mind expressing myself when it comes to that. Of course, your crowd immediately identifies that response as racism as well. Just as an aside, I have several mixed marriages within my family and my immediate supervisor for 8 recent years was an African American with whom I got along quite well. So I hope you can understand how I am offended every time someone launches the "race" grenade. Some shrink/back off when it gets lobbed at them but it happens to embolden me because I know where I stand on this issue far better than any of the "lobbers" Nash, though I applaud the attempt to back up your beliefs with this statement, it is the exact response most want. Don't explain yourself, don't try and justify beliefs with words. Actions towards your fellow man & woman are the only constant and even those are held in contempt most days. Hence the carpet bombing of cops, servicemen & women, republicans, etc... due to individual acts of racism. Key word, "Individual". To which there are roughly 360 million in America. Again, appreciate the effort but some groups will not be swayed from their ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 37 minutes ago, Silsbee92 said: Nash, though I applaud the attempt to back up your beliefs with this statement, it is the exact response most want. Don't explain yourself, don't try and justify beliefs with words. Actions towards your fellow man & woman are the only constant and even those are held in contempt most days. Hence the carpet bombing of cops, servicemen & women, republicans, etc... due to individual acts of racism. Key word, "Individual". To which there are roughly 360 million in America. Again, appreciate the effort but some groups will not be swayed from their ideology. Good point. However, I neither care if they are swayed nor do I care if they approve/disapprove. I would make one small addition to your comments. " Individual acts of racism committed by people of various ethnicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silsbee92 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 minute ago, stevenash said: Good point. However, I neither care if they are swayed nor do I care if they approve/disapprove. I would make one small addition to your comments. " Individual acts of racism committed by people of various ethnicity. I could but then that might give someone an opening to label it "White" Racism, "Black" Racism, "Jewish" Racism, etc... If your a racist, it doesn't matter. I've met people who hate within their own race. Racism is Racism. It has always been here and always will be in some form. Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappyroots Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, stevenash said: I suspect my definition of racism and yours differs substantially. As an example, every time someone disagrees with Mr. Obama, you and your crew start crying racism. I understand the problems that exist when it comes to race relations but many of you have gone too far when it comes to those accusations. An example of that is that so many push the agenda that white cops are now generally regarded as bad guys and they are actively seeking to harm black people. That is such a crock and I don't mind expressing myself when it comes to that. Of course, your crowd immediately identifies that response as racism as well. Just as an aside, I have several mixed marriages within my family and my immediate supervisor for 8 recent years was an African American with whom I got along quite well. So I hope you can understand how I am offended every time someone launches the "race" grenade. Some shrink/back off when it gets lobbed at them but it happens to embolden me because I know where I stand on this issue far better than any of the "lobbers" What did people talk about on this board before Mr Obama became president, because im sure there were no complaints about the government, taxes, price of gas, healthcare, cost of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 28 minutes ago, nappyroots said: What did people talk about on this board before Mr Obama became president, because im sure there were no complaints about the government, taxes, price of gas, healthcare, cost of war. Obama definitely gave us plenty to complain about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappyroots Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Englebert said: Obama definitely gave us plenty to complain about. I understand that, but what was talked about before obama(clinton) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappyroots Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I really have had complaints for the last 30 years, most people on this board don't complain about republican presidents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, nappyroots said: I really have had complaints for the last 30 years, most people on this board don't complain about republican presidents Could that be because their beliefs are more closely aligned with Republican Presidents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappyroots Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 minute ago, stevenash said: Could that be because their beliefs are more closely aligned with Republican Presidents? Does truth and facts mean anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, nappyroots said: I understand that, but what was talked about before obama(clinton) I know, just wanted to get a jab in at Obama. I wasn't on this board before Obama. In fact, I paid very little attention to politics before Obama. I think I started paying more attention in the last few years of GW. I remember being shocked at the vitriol directed at him by the left wing media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 15 minutes ago, nappyroots said: Does truth and facts mean anything Yes they do. You may want to consider them sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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