stevenash Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, 77 said: speaks to soon before the facts are in and places blame therefore leading to violent outburst! And yet insists we not rush to Judgment when it comes to foreign terrorists and their "activities". 77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 For whatever reason (and there's many possibilities), he's totally mishandled the Muslims, the budget, the military.  Historically, even those we remember as good presidents, only excel in one of the two major challenges.  Those are improving the country (jobs, debt, being a leader), and foreign policy.  From my right wing perch, the ones that failed at both are Obama, Jimmy Carter, and Bush Jr. His last 4years. I'd like to think that Trump, at the least if elected, will exceed these three.  And Hoops, no bet.  I'd have a better chance of winning on a Slot Machine lol TxHoops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, stevenash said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up He's a lock Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted July 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 19 minutes ago, stevenash said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Heaven forbid a hanging chad lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 2 hours ago, stevenash said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Maybe more and more folks actually believe no one is above the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 On July 8, 2016 at 1:55 PM, stevenash said: I agree with you . But I also believe that his Presidency has aggravated that divide. Ive been dealing with that divide for 40 yrs . the divide will get better because most young folks don't think like their parens and grandparents. The race mixing is also growing rapidly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, new tobie said: Ive been dealing with that divide for 40 yrs . the divide will get better because most young folks don't think like their parens and grandparents. The race mixing is also growing rapidly I agree, we are in a much better place now than then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 4 hours ago, TxHoops said: He's a lock Obviously not a lock but perhaps the outcome is not as cut and dried as you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 21 minutes ago, stevenash said: Obviously not a lock but perhaps the outcome is not as cut and dried as you believe. My money is fresh for the taking then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 17 minutes ago, TxHoops said: My money is fresh for the taking then! Never ever bet against purveyors of free stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 TXHoops- Based upon the current Vegas odds, are you offering me the chance to put up $1000 to win $2320 from you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 47 minutes ago, stevenash said: TXHoops- Based upon the current Vegas odds, are you offering me the chance to put up $1000 to win $2320 from you? No, you already established Vegas is often wrong (and I won't deny that).  Based upon your link posted, I would be willing to bet straight up but not require you to give me odds (even though trump leads in all the swing states). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 hour ago, stevenash said: TXHoops- Based upon the current Vegas odds, are you offering me the chance to put up $1000 to win $2320 from you? And actually, you can win $2600 on a $1000 bet online now. Â Have to lay $3250 to win $1000 on Hillary. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted July 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 This might give the Hildabeast a little incentive. Â Donald's pick for AG! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 10 minutes ago, REBgp said: This might give the Hildabeast a little incentive.  Donald's pick for AG! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up interesting.  I also missed he announced Palin would be in his cabinet.  I can only hope he is talking about an actual cabinet in the White House.  Or maybe Minister of Presidential Wardrobe and Hair Products.  I could roll with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 hour ago, TxHoops said: No, you already established Vegas is often wrong (and I won't deny that).  Based upon your link posted, I would be willing to bet straight up but not require you to give me odds (even though trump leads in all the swing states). All you are telling me is that you want an even bet that the Golden State Warriors make the playoffs next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 hour ago, stevenash said: All you are telling me is that you want an even bet that the Golden State Warriors make the playoffs next year. I thought your link indicated Trump was actually a favorite now?  Unless the implication is that "swing states" aren't actually swing states by the definition because Hillary doesn't need them to win.  And no, you would have to lay a lot more than -325 on GS making the playoffs.  They are less than even money to WIN the NBA championship next year... (-130 l think was the last number I saw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 20 minutes ago, TxHoops said: I thought your link indicated Trump was actually a favorite now?  Unless the implication is that "swing states" aren't actually swing states by the definition because Hillary doesn't need them to win.  And no, you would have to lay a lot more than -325 on GS making the playoffs.  They are less than even money to WIN the NBA championship next year... (-130 l think was the last number I saw) As I stated earlier, I don't put as much stock in polls as others do. Maybe I am right to do that, maybe I am wrong. You have been steadfast insisting that the race will not be a contest and I assumed, since you follow the bookies quite closely, that you would give the same odds that they do. Wanna play a golf match heads up or should the match be handicapped some way to make it "fair" ( I know you understand that because your party is a huge promoter of "fairness" and "equity") Just had first face to face exchange with REGgp and he said to give you his regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted July 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 2 hours ago, TxHoops said: interesting.  I also missed he announced Palin would be in his cabinet.  I can only hope he is talking about an actual cabinet in the White House.  Or maybe Minister of Presidential Wardrobe and Hair Products.  I could roll with that. That's to funny.  But while envisioning that, "in the cabinet" remark, I got to wondering, how about we put Sarah & Hillary both in that cabinet.  With a camera.  That's one reality show I'd watch  77 and TxHoops 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 28 minutes ago, REBgp said: That's to funny.  But while envisioning that, "in the cabinet" remark, I got to wondering, how about we put Sarah & Hillary both in that cabinet.  With a camera.  That's one reality show I'd watch  You would not want Hillary in charge of wardrobe and hair products...come to think of it, you wouldn't want her in charge of anything. Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 hour ago, stevenash said: As I stated earlier, I don't put as much stock in polls as others do. Maybe I am right to do that, maybe I am wrong. You have been steadfast insisting that the race will not be a contest and I assumed, since you follow the bookies quite closely, that you would give the same odds that they do. Wanna play a golf match heads up or should the match be handicapped some way to make it "fair" ( I know you understand that because your party is a huge promoter of "fairness" and "equity") Just had first face to face exchange with REGgp and he said to give you his regards. He told me he met you earlier.  Really good guy.  I don't really follow the bookies closely.  I had to look up the presidential odds but had read she was heavily favored a month ago.  I was actually surprised to see it has risen despite recent events.  As for the NBA odds, I seem to spend my summers around gyms and was told that last week by someone I would not doubt. As for the golf bet, no thank you.  I am too proud to accept the amount of strokes required to make that bet fair! stevenash and Hagar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Do you think a weight lifting contest between someone a little over half the age of the other is equitable?  If you  honestly believe it is, I will give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, stevenash said: Do you think a weight lifting contest between someone a little over half the age of the other is equitable?  If you  honestly believe it is, I will give it a try. You are not in your 90s Nash.  But no, not fair.  But neither would a golf match between us, I can assure you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, TxHoops said: You are not in your 90s Nash.  But no, not fair.  But neither would a golf match between us, I can assure you!  I believe I am approximatelyl 50% older than you. Whole point from the beginning is that the original bet you wanted should not be on a 1 to 1 basis just as the weight lifting or golf should not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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