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[stevenash]

10 hours ago, nappyroots said:

I never see a need rioting, but don't trust the folks investigating either

Why dont you trust the folks investigating?  The justice department dispatched vast numbers of personnel to Ferguson with the intent of "getting to the bottom of this".  They simply found out that Mr. Brown was totally in the wrong and the officer acted appropriately.  Who is it you don't trust?

[nappyroots]

54 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Why dont you trust the folks investigating?  The justice department dispatched vast numbers of personnel to Ferguson with the intent of "getting to the bottom of this".  They simply found out that Mr. Brown was totally in the wrong and the officer acted appropriately.  Who is it you don't trust?

Hillary Clinton was'nt found guilty of a crime either! Right!

[stevenash]

41 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

Hillary Clinton was'nt found guilty of a crime either! Right!

That is correct and we are proceeding accordingly.

[77]

neither were those cops but your brothers are killin em anyway!

[Big girl]

15 hours ago, 77 said:

neither were those cops but your brothers are killin em anyway!

I don't have a brother

[Big girl]

22 hours ago, PhatMack19 said:

So y'all trust the FBI's investigation of Hillary's emails, but do not trust Eric Holder's DOJ investigation of "hands up don't shoot" and all of the other BLM narratives that were proven false by physical evidence?

That makes a lot of 

[Big girl]

20 hours ago, stevenash said:

Why dont you trust the folks investigating?  The justice department dispatched vast numbers of personnel to Ferguson with the intent of "getting to the bottom of this".  They simply found out that Mr. Brown was totally in the wrong and the officer acted appropriately.  Who is it you don't trust?

But they disbanded the police department, because of widespread racist practices.

[stevenash]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

But they disbanded the police department, because of widespread racist practices.

And that has nothing to do with the absolute FACT that hands up dont shoot was an overt lie from the beginning and not even an aggressive Fed could alter the outcome.

[tvc184]

14 hours ago, Big girl said:

But they disbanded the police department, because of widespread racist practices.

No they did not. Where do you get this stuff or is it "what you heard"?

The PD was not disbanded. The DOJ made them change this use of force policy, required more training for officers, required body cams and even required pay raises. The DOJ also required changes to the city court and they way the collect fines and issue warrants. 

 

[Hagar]

On July 23, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Big girl said:

He had a gun in his hand? This article in the Washington Post said he didn't.

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If you'll notice, the link says, "Shooting was legal".  No, he didn't have a gun in his hand, he had one in his pocket.  He was resisting arrest and his arms where by his side.  You do realize that if he had gotten his hand on that gun, which he may have,  he could shoot through his shorts?   This isn't the movies.  The Police don't have to wait until someone shoots at them first.  Those officers don't want to die.  Alton died because, 1- he was engaged in illegal activity, 2- he was illegally carrying a gun, 3- he was resisting arrest.  Oh, and in case you didn't know, this happened to him once before, but in the initial scuffle, his gun fell out on the ground, so he was arrested.  Think about all those things before you blame the police.

[Big girl]

On 7/23/2016 at 1:50 PM, PhatMack19 said:

So y'all trust the FBI's investigation of Hillary's emails, but do not trust Eric Holder's DOJ investigation of "hands up don't shoot" and all of the other BLM narratives that were proven false by physical evidence?

That makes a lot of sense....

You said he had a gun. If his arms are subdued, how could he have reached for a gun

[Big girl]

On 7/23/2016 at 11:40 AM, baddog said:

The police have to wait for the gun to be in his hand when they are scuffling to subdue him? How idiotic. What kind of reasoning is that? You would rather the officers got killed?

He didnt have a gun, did he?

[Big girl]

11 hours ago, tvc184 said:

No they did not. Where do you get this stuff or is it "what you heard"?

The PD was not disbanded. The DOJ made them change this use of force policy, required more training for officers, required body cams and even required pay raises. The DOJ also required changes to the city court and they way the collect fines and issue warrants. 

 

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The justice department found widespread racist practices that led to several resignations and a new police chief. This is where i got my information. Nbc news is more credible than you are.

[baddog]

5 minutes ago, Big girl said:

He didnt have a gun, did he?

Yes, he did. What planet are you on?

[stevenash]

24 minutes ago, Big girl said:

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The justice department found widespread racist practices that led to several resignations and a new police chief. This is where i got my information. Nbc news is more credible than you are.

Read up on what happened to Brian Williams when he was at NBC and then tell me again how credible NBC is.

[LumRaiderFan]

Wasn't sure where to put this one but it needs to be read...Dems should be proud of this guy...same guy that thought Guam could capsize.

You really can't make this stuff up.

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4 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Wasn't sure where to put this one but it needs to be read...Dems should be proud of this guy...same guy that thought Guam could capsize.

You really can't make this stuff up.

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Gotta love the dumb liberal Democrats. What a complete and utter joke.  How do idiots like this get elected?  And some even get re-elected.

[Big girl]

7 hours ago, stevenash said:

Read up on what happened to Brian Williams when he was at NBC and then tell me again how credible NBC is.

Are you saying what I posted is not true.

[Big girl]

On 7/24/2016 at 1:34 PM, stevenash said:

And that has nothing to do with the absolute FACT that hands up dont shoot was an overt lie from the beginning and not even an aggressive Fed could alter the outcome.

It obviously doesn't work. The behavioral therapist clearly had his hands up and he was still shot.

[TxHoops]

On July 22, 2016 at 7:47 PM, baddog said:

.........and you thought the RNC was chaotic?

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Back on topic...Bad move in general and not even a smart political move IMO.  Not sure what is hoped to be accomplished.  To be sure, discussions need to take place with all parties present and with a voice.  But to politicize the issue at the DNC is not the time, place or forum.  

[bullets13]

On July 23, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Big girl said:

I have shown sympathy for the families of those officerx who were shot. I brought this situation to light, because this is why we have the Black lives Matter Movement.  There is also a video of a white guy resisting arrest and attacking 2 officers and he is still alive. What do you all think about that? I don't know how to upload videos

If someone were so inclined, and had the resources, they could compile MILLIONS of dashcam videos of men of all races who are still alive after resisting arrest and attacking cops.  If officers shot and killed every person who resisted arrest and struggled with them, there would be tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of people shot and killed by officers EVERY YEAR.  Cops show tremendous restraint every day all across the country.  That being said, every situation is different, and some situations dictate that the officer shoot the man who's struggling with or attacking officers.

[bullets13]

12 hours ago, Big girl said:

You said he had a gun. If his arms are subdued, how could he have reached for a gun

His arms weren't subdued. Arms being subdued would mean they were cuffed behind his back.  With two officers on top of him, he continued to struggle, and they were unable to gain control of his hands, one of which was inches from the gun you're still trying to say he didn't have or didn't have access to.  

[stevenash]

8 hours ago, Big girl said:

It obviously doesn't work. The behavioral therapist clearly had his hands up and he was still shot.

Of course, I was referring to Ferguson, where it never happened but "some" pushed the narrative anyway in spite of knowing it was a total lie.

[tvc184]

On 7/25/2016 at 2:23 PM, Big girl said:

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The justice department found widespread racist practices that led to several resignations and a new police chief. This is where i got my information. Nbc news is more credible than you are.

I would tend to differ on the opinion of any credibility of NBC and their scams over the years such as the Trayvon Martin case where the falsified evidence but let's not quibble over NBC being caught in a lie.

You stated "they disbanded the police department". To prove that, you posted a news article that says the appointed an interim chief. Well for a news flash, Port Arthur now has an interim chief after theirs retired. That is not disbanding the department. 

Face it, you made a false statement and there is no way to make it better by saying they now have a new chief. I don't think you intentionally lied but only spouted off about something you had no clue about. 

What is interesting and nothing to do with Ferguson specifically as their fault but after the feds stepped in, Ferguson got Andre Anderson as the interim chief. He was reported in the article that you posted that he could be the permanent chief. Well, until someone started checking on him. This knight in shining armor that came to rescue Ferguson.... well, he has been suspended three times in the past including falsifying government documents. 

I guess the people at Ferguson are hard to please because after looking into the interim chief's background, found out that he might be less than desirable. 

So you don't have to ponder whether I am credible, all you need to do is simply read the "evidence" that you posted that refutes your claim of the department being "disbanded". 

[new tobie]

1 hour ago, tvc184 said:

I would tend to differ on the opinion of any credibility of NBC and their scams over the years such as the Trayvon Martin case where the falsified evidence but let's not quibble over NBC being caught in a lie.

You stated "they disbanded the police department". To prove that, you posted a news article that says the appointed an interim chief. Well for a news flash, Port Arthur now has an interim chief after theirs retired. That is not disbanding the department. 

Face it, you made a false statement and there is no way to make it better by saying they now have a new chief. I don't think you intentionally lied but only spouted off about something you had no clue about. 

What is interesting and nothing to do with Ferguson specifically as their fault but after the feds stepped in, Ferguson got Andre Anderson as the interim chief. He was reported in the article that you posted that he could be the permanent chief. Well, until someone started checking on him. This knight in shining armor that came to rescue Ferguson.... well, he has been suspended three times in the past including falsifying government documents. 

I guess the people at Ferguson are hard to please because after looking into the interim chief's background, found out that he might be less than desirable. 

So you don't have to ponder whether I am credible, all you need to do is simply read the "evidence" that you posted that refutes your claim of the department being "disbanded". 

You guys keep bringing up Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman is lucky he ran into the right parents for his sake. He shouldn't be here