We Are the Wild Pigs

[Hagar]

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How to catch wild pigs.

[stevenash]

I am often criticized for the frequency in which I refer to free stuff.  Possibly there is some credibility to my constant referral?

[77]

right on!

 

[new tobie]

On 7/25/2016 at 6:27 AM, stevenash said:

I am often criticized for the frequency in which I refer to free stuff.  Possibly there is some credibility to my constant referral?

Free stuff has been happening for a long time. Blacks aren't the only ones getting it, Obama didn't start it and poor folks aren't the only recipients. Look at congress for example, they refuse to even vote no on a candidate, if I refuse to do something on my job, Im history.

[stevenash]

16 minutes ago, new tobie said:

Free stuff has been happening for a long time. Blacks aren't the only ones getting it, Obama didn't start it and poor folks aren't the only recipients. Look at congress for example, they refuse to even vote no on a candidate, if I refuse to do something on my job, Im history.

Never said that free stuff is something new.  However, the EXTENT of free stuff is my concern.  I also NEVER SAID that blacks are the only ones getting free stuff.  I am just amazed/saddened by how so many TRULY believe that free stuff is actually free and have no earthly idea of the long term consequences of too much free stuff.  Greece and Venezuela( street rioting and inflation are beyond control) have gone overboard on free stuff and are paying a very stiff price for that.   Furthermore, the "compassion" that many like to associate with free stuff ultimately is precisely the opposite of compassion.  Those who have lost their "lifetime guaranteed" pension plans likely understand very well now ( even though it is too late) that free stuff is not the answer.

[Big girl]

1 hour ago, new tobie said:

Free stuff has been happening for a long time. Blacks aren't the only ones getting it, Obama didn't start it and poor folks aren't the only recipients. Look at congress for example, they refuse to even vote no on a candidate, if I refuse to do something on my job, Im 

who gets free stuff

[Hagar]

1 hour ago, new tobie said:

Free stuff has been happening for a long time. Blacks aren't the only ones getting it, Obama didn't start it and poor folks aren't the only recipients. Look at congress for example, they refuse to even vote no on a candidate, if I refuse to do something on my job, Im history.

No one said blacks are the only ones getting free stuff.  This is about turning our nation into Socialism/Communism.  And it's not just able bodied people getting welfare and food stamps (getting the corn).   Many, who get things they've earned, and deserve, via the Govt.. Social Security (myself), retired/disabled Vets & Govt. workers, all getting the corn.  Obamacare/Medicare, more corn.  Essentially, anyone who depends on our Government to live, is feeding at the corn trough.  And if you depend on the Govt. you're at their mercy.   I'm very uncomfortable with that.

[stevenash]

And the corn trough issue has become a generational one for many

[new tobie]

5 hours ago, REBgp said:

No one said blacks are the only ones getting free stuff.  This is about turning our nation into Socialism/Communism.  And it's not just able bodied people getting welfare and food stamps (getting the corn).   Many, who get things they've earned, and deserve, via the Govt.. Social Security (myself), retired/disabled Vets & Govt. workers, all getting the corn.  Obamacare/Medicare, more corn.  Essentially, anyone who depends on our Government to live, is feeding at the corn trough.  And if you depend on the Govt. you're at their mercy.   I'm very uncomfortable with that.

I guess that includes congress

[stevenash]

2 minutes ago, new tobie said:

I guess that includes congress

Tobie, do you think the growth in food stamps is good for the country?

[new tobie]

2 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Tobie, do you think the growth in food stamps is good for the country?

Trump hasn't threatned to take them away yet

[Hagar]

6 minutes ago, new tobie said:

I guess that includes congress

No, they're the ones spreading the corn.  Call it Congress, Politburo, Gestapo, those are the folks that throw the corn, and eventually will make their demands.  Think of it as being a child, dependent on your parents.  You live in their home, they provide for you, you're dependent on them, and they make the rules..  And, you follow them, or else (at least that's the way it was in my home).  That's a simplified version how Socialism/Communism works.  For every dependency we have from the Govt. a little freedom is lost.

[stevenash]

Durable  Goods orders declined 4.0% in June.  The expected/forecasted decline was a decline of 1.4%.