texaslonghorn14 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 With the UIL allowing three and four teams to go to the playoffs, I was wondering what was considered a great program now. So I came up with this criteria for a ten year window, tell me what you think. 1. Exceptional- multiple state championship appearances and at least one title in ten years 2.Great- Semis or better three times 3. Good- Second round or better in five of ten years 4. Average- Playoffs in five of ten years 5. Decent- Playoffs in three or less years 6. Below- Two or below playoff appearances in ten years This is not perfect but i am just curious of what will be said griff, studd88, CAL2TEX and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dawn Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, texaslonghorn14 said: With the UIL allowing three and four teams to go to the playoffs, I was wondering what was considered a great program now. So I came up with this criteria for a ten year window, tell me what you think. 1. Exceptional- multiple state championship appearances and at least one title in ten years 2.Great- Semis or better three times 3. Good- Second round or better in five of ten years 4. Average- Playoffs in five of ten years 5. Decent- Playoffs in three or less years 6. Below- Two or below playoff appearances in ten years This is not perfect but i am just curious of what will be said I'd probably adjust your criteria a bit but you are right on. Making the playoffs shouldn't be the benchmark any more. The avg district size is around 6-7 teams. So you finished 4th of 6 and that's success? Great post. +1 Mr. Buddy Garrity, Scatright and Silsbee92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBallCoach90 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 It would be nice if it went back to the top two teams. I hated seeing a 0-10 Scarborough team in the playoffs. Scatright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Even 3 teams in playoffs from every district would be good, give the district champ a bye week. Alpha Wolf, About a week ago, CAL2TEX and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBallCoach90 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said: Even 3 teams in playoffs from every district would be good, give the district champ a bye week. I can see that being good... I would prefer teams in the playoff with a .500 win percentage or better. And I like giving the DC a first round bye. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Wolf Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Well as for Central since 2006 2006: Beat Barbers Hill 31-28 in Bi-District; Lost to LaMarque 30-7 in Area; 8-4 overall, 6-1 in District 2007: No playoffs, 4-6 overall, 2-5 in District 2008: Beat North Forest 21-0 in Bi-District; Beat Lockhart 24-21 in Area; Beat Angleton 35-34 in Regionals; Lost to Friendswood 20-19 in Quarters; 9-4 overall, 5-2 in District 2009: Beat Goose Creek Memorial 7-0 in Bi-District; Beat Huntsville 28-24 in Area; Lost to Friendswood 44-22 in Regionals; 9-4 overall, 5-2 in District 2010: Beat Galena Park 44-16 in Bi-District; Lost to Humble 27-21 in Area; 8-4 overall, 6-1 in District 2011: No playoffs; 2-8 overall, 1-6 in District 2012: No playoffs; 3-7 overall, 3-4 in District 2013: Lost to Summer Creek 24-9 in Bi-District; 6-5 overall, 5-2 in District 2014: Lost to CE King 55-23 in Bi-District; 7-4 overall, 6-1 in District 2015: Lost to CE King 32-31 in Bi-District; 5-6 overall, 5-2 in District Using your criteria, I would have to say GOOD in the 1st half of the 10 year span but DECENT since... BMTSoulja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STiger85 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Jag Insider said: Well as for Central since 2006 2006: Beat Barbers Hill 31-28 in Bi-District; Lost to LaMarque 30-7 in Area; 8-4 overall, 6-1 in District 2007: No playoffs, 4-6 overall, 2-5 in District 2008: Beat North Forest 21-0 in Bi-District; Beat Lockhart 24-21 in Area; Beat Angleton 35-34 in Regionals; Lost to Friendswood 20-19 in Quarters; 9-4 overall, 5-2 in District 2009: Beat Goose Creek Memorial 7-0 in Bi-District; Beat Huntsville 28-24 in Area; Lost to Friendswood 44-22 in Regionals; 9-4 overall, 5-2 in District 2010: Beat Galena Park 44-16 in Bi-District; Lost to Humble 27-21 in Area; 8-4 overall, 6-1 in District 2011: No playoffs; 2-8 overall, 1-6 in District 2012: No playoffs; 3-7 overall, 3-4 in District 2013: Lost to Summer Creek 24-9 in Bi-District; 6-5 overall, 5-2 in District 2014: Lost to CE King 55-23 in Bi-District; 7-4 overall, 6-1 in District 2015: Lost to CE King 32-31 in Bi-District; 5-6 overall, 5-2 in District Using your criteria, I would have to say GOOD in the 1st half of the 10 year span but DECENT since... Using his criteria, Central is just average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dawn Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 20 minutes ago, SB63 said: It would be nice if it went back to the top two teams. I hated seeing a 0-10 Scarborough team in the playoffs. I don't mind 4 in. Especially when some districts have 5 teams and others have 9 (like 21-5A). I've seen many 4th place teams better than other district champs or runners up. It all gets weeded out after week 1 of playoffs anyway. I just don't think making the playoffs can be used alone as a criteria for a successful season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar14.2 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Well, using this criteria I guess we're good? 2006: 1st round baptism by Dayton 2007: 1st round re-born baptism by Dayton 2008: 1st round beat Lumberton, 2nd round 31-24 loss Brenham 2009: 1st round beat Nederland, 2nd round beat Montgomery, 3rd round 27-20 loss Dawson 2010: 1st round beat Nederland, 2nd round loss Montgomery 2011: 1st round loss to a team that shall remain nameless 2012: 1st round beat Ozen, 2nd round loss Manor 2013: 1st round beat PNG, 2nd round loss Elgin 2014: 1st round beat Ozen, 2nd round beat PLC, 3rd round beat Brenham, 4th round beat Hutto, 5th round loss Cedar Park 2015: 1st round beat Lumberton, 2nd round loss FB Ridge Point 7 of 10 years past the first round. Something else I noticed while doing this exercise is that only one true SETX team has beaten Crosby in the playoffs the last decade. MossHill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdawg119 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Barbers Hill since 2006: 2006: Lost to Central 31-28 in Bi-District, 10-1 overall, 7-0 in District 2007: No playoffs, 6-4 overall, 4-3 in District 2008: No playoffs, 3-6 overall, 3-4 in District 2009: Lost to Port Neches-Groves 21-7 in Bi-District, 5-6 overall, 4-3 in District 2010: Lost to PN-G 21-13 in Bi-District, 7-4 overall, 6-1 in District 2011: Lost to Ozen 40-36 in Bi-District, 9-2 overall, 6-1 in District 2012: Beat Livingston 31-0 in Bi-District, lost to Elgin 45-21 in Area, 8-4 overall, 5-3 in District 2013: No playoffs, 6-4 overall, 4-4 in District 2014: No playoffs, 6-4 overall, 4-4 in District 2015: No playoffs, 4-6 overall, 3-5 in District So according to texaslonghorn14's criteria, BH is about average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Wolf Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 STiger85, if Barbers Hill is AVERAGE, Central can't be AVERAGE... Silsbee92 and BMTSoulja1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STiger85 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 43 minutes ago, Jag Insider said: STiger85, if Barbers Hill is AVERAGE, Central can't be AVERAGE... Per criteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 I guess by this criteria Nederland would be in the good category: 2006- Beat Galena Park lost to Kilgore 2nd round. 2007- No playoffs (First time in 11 years, including 10 straight 2nd rd or better before 2007) 2008 - Beat CE King, lost to Magnolia 2nd round 2009- Lost to Crosby 1st rd 2010- Lost to Crosby 1st rd 2011- Beat GCM ,Beat Stratford, Lost to Pearland Dawson in 3rd rd 2012 - Beat Dayton, Beat Connally, Beat Dawson, lost to Georgetown in the 4th rd 2013 - Beat KP, Lost to Georgetown 2nd rd 2014 - Lost to KP in 1st rd 2015 - Beat New Caney, Lost to George Ranch 2nd rd. 6 of 10 years past the second round. 2 3rd or better appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossHill Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hardin - 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 West Orange-Stark Mustangs 2006 - Lost to Giddings in 2nd Round 2007 - Lost to Waco La Vega in 3rd Round 2008 - Lost to Gilmer in 3rd Round 2009 - Lost to Coldspring-Oakhurst in Bi-District 2010 - Lost to Brookshire in 2nd Round 2011 - Lost to Coldspring-Oakhurst in 4th Round 2012 - Lost to Navasota in 4th Round 2013 - Lost to Carthage in 4th Round 2014 - Lost to Gilmer in State Championship Game 2015 - State Champion MossHill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Silsbee '06 Lost to West Columbia 44-41 2nd rd. '07 Missed playoffs '08 Lost to Navasota 48-33 2nd rd. '09 Lost to Navasota 35-34 2nd rd. '10 Lost to Huffman 48-44 1st rd. '11 Lost to Huffman 19-14 1st rd. '12 Lost to Carthage 50-21 3rd rd. '13 Lost to Carthage 49-6 3rd rd. '14 Lost to Henderson 48-22 1st rd. '15 Lost to Carthage 56-40 4th rd. We good STiger85 and Pepper Brooks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossHill Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Hardin Hornets 2006 - Missed Playoffs (Hardin AD; Mike Morgan - now assistant @ Carthage) 2007 - Lost to Crawford in 2nd round 35-15 (Hardin AD; Larry Haynes) 2008 - Lost to New Waverly in 2nd round 37-8 (Hardin AD: Larry Haynes) 2009 - Missed playoffs ***4th Qtr. collapse vs. Buna (Hardin AD: Larry Haynes) 6 - 4 Record 2010 - Missed playoffs but went 5 - 5 (Hardin AD; Larry Haynes) 2011 - Missed playoffs (Hardin AD; Larry Haynes) 3 - 7 Record 2012 - Missed playoffs - (Hardin AD; Walter Fortune) 1 - 9 Record 2013 - Missed playoffs - (Hardin AD; Walter Fortune) 3 - 7 Record 2014 - Missed playoffs - (Hardin AD; Walter Fortune) 3 - 7 Record 2015 - Missed playoffs - (Hardin AD; Tod Stark) 3 - 7 Record 2016 - 2017 - 2018 - 2019 - 2020 - State Champion *** Predicted by yours truly in 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoe_09 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Cameron Yoemen 2006 - Lost to La Vega in Bi-District 2007 - Lost to La Vega in Bi-District 2008 - No Playoffs 2009 - No Playoffs 2010 - STATE FINALIST 2011 - Area Finalist 2012- STATE CHAMPIONS 2013 - STATE CHAMPIONS 2014 - STATE CHAMPIONS 2015 - STATE FINALIST Top 10 in all-time wins in the state and steadily climbing. 2015 hurt no doubt. The Yoemen will look to get back on top in 2016. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAL2TEX Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Port Neches-Groves 2006 – (No playoffs) 5-5 2007 - Lost to Lamar Consolidated in Regional 2008 – (No playoffs) 3-6 2009 – Lost to Brenham in Area finals 2010 - Lost to Manvel in Area Regional 2011 - Lost to Dayton in Bi-District 2012 - (No playoffs) 2-8 2013 - Lost to Crosby in Bi-District 2014 - Lost to Dayton in Bi-District 2015 - Lost to Angleton in Area finals By the criteria specified = AVERAGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 On July 28, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Cougar14.2 said: Well, using this criteria I guess we're good? 2006: 1st round baptism by Dayton 2007: 1st round re-born baptism by Dayton 2008: 1st round beat Lumberton, 2nd round 31-24 loss Brenham 2009: 1st round beat Nederland, 2nd round beat Montgomery, 3rd round 27-20 loss Dawson 2010: 1st round beat Nederland, 2nd round loss Montgomery 2011: 1st round loss to a team that shall remain nameless 2012: 1st round beat Ozen, 2nd round loss Manor 2013: 1st round beat PNG, 2nd round loss Elgin 2014: 1st round beat Ozen, 2nd round beat PLC, 3rd round beat Brenham, 4th round beat Hutto, 5th round loss Cedar Park 2015: 1st round beat Lumberton, 2nd round loss FB Ridge Point 7 of 10 years past the first round. Something else I noticed while doing this exercise is that only one true SETX team has beaten Crosby in the playoffs the last decade. Lmbo, Great post Cougar 14.2! And I won't tell. Seriously though, that's at least (very) Good. mytwocents-28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltex Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Dayton Broncos 2006 1st rd beat Crosby,2nd rd loss Tx City 2007 1st rd beat Crosby,2nd rd beat Tx City,3rd rd beat Livingston,4th rd beat Waller,5th rd loss to Lake Travis 2008 1st rd beat Livingston,2nd rd beat Elgin,3rd rd beat Rosenburg Terry,4th rd beat Brenham,5th rd beat Kerrville Tivy(Manziels soph yr)6th rd state final loss to Sulphur Springs(gm set a Tx scoring record ) 2009 1st rd beat Vidor,2nd rd beat Waller,3rd rd beat El Campo,4th rd loss to Brenham 2010 1st rd beat Livingston,2nd rd beat Kingwood Park,3rd rd loss to La Marque(Jerry Stewarts last yr as H/C=A/D 2011 1st rd beat Png,2nd rd beat Magnolia West,3rd rd loss to Manvel H/C Hancock 1st yr(Stews crew) 2012 1st rd loss Nederland 2013 1st rd beat LCM,2nd rd loss to Brenham by 1 point 2014 1st rd beat Png,2nd rd loss to Angleton by 1 point 2015 1st rd loss Png by 1 point *Good+ 1st 5, last 5=change@the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3zii Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 On July 28, 2016 at 10:57 AM, STiger85 said: Using his criteria, Central is just average. Stop before 2011 Central was one of the top programs in the area and was known throughout the State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltex Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 6 hours ago, liltex said: Dayton Broncos 2006 1st rd beat Crosby,2nd rd loss Tx City 2007 1st rd beat Crosby,2nd rd beat Tx City,3rd rd beat Livingston,4th rd beat Waller,5th rd loss to Lake Travis 2008 1st rd beat Livingston,2nd rd beat Elgin,3rd rd beat Rosenburg Terry,4th rd beat Brenham,5th rd beat Kerrville Tivy(Manziels soph yr)6th rd state final loss to Sulphur Springs(gm set a Tx scoring record ) 2009 1st rd beat Vidor,2nd rd beat Waller,3rd rd beat El Campo,4th rd loss to Brenham 2010 1st rd beat Livingston,2nd rd beat Kingwood Park,3rd rd loss to La Marque(Jerry Stewarts last yr as H/C=A/D 2011 1st rd beat Png,2nd rd beat Magnolia West,3rd rd loss to Manvel H/C Hancock 1st yr(Stews crew) 2012 1st rd loss Nederland 2013 1st rd beat LCM,2nd rd loss to Brenham by 1 point 2014 1st rd beat Png,2nd rd loss to Angleton by 1 point 2015 1st rd loss Png by 1 point *Good+ 1st 5, last 5=change@the top Ouch Stewart won 15 playoff games his last 5 H/C yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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