stevenash Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 Who is the greater, more accomplished athlete? Phelps or Jordan? Quote
BADSANTA Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 No one has ever dominated a single sport the way Phelps has! Michael Jordan played a team sport here Phelps is more of a individual sport. Swimming is only popular once every four years. I would also say Usain Bolt is just as dominate as Phelps. Honest Abe and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote
stevenash Posted August 14, 2016 Author Report Posted August 14, 2016 31 minutes ago, BADSANTA said: No one has ever dominated a single sport the way Phelps has! Michael Jordan played a team sport here Phelps is more of a individual sport. Swimming is only popular once every four years. I would also say Usain Bolt is just as dominate as Phelps. Gold Medals totals would argue otherwise Quote
ST413 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 Bolt and Phelps are both very dominant. Big difference in medals is largely due to he number of events Phelps can participate and the fact that at present time he has participated in 2 more olympics than Bolt(since Bolt has yet to participate in a final this time). Both being "sprinters" in their respective sports. At this point I would definitely give the edge to Phelps b cause of longevity and versatility, in the different strokes. I don't know if you can actually compare the two Michael's. Mr. Buddy Garrity, Crawford72, Honest Abe and 1 other 4 Quote
oldschool2 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 I personally think it's no question that Phelps is the more accomplished athlete. I'm a huge MJ fan. He is definitely one of if not the greatest to have ever played the game of basketball. But team sport accolades are also dependant of having a good team. During the peak of MJ's career there were 2 other Top 50 NBA all time players on his same team. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve everything he accomplished, I'm just saying team sports are different. Even during those years his team lost games. And some games he wasn't leading scorer on his own team. There are certain events that Phelps has never lost. Ever. Is MJ the best scorer of all time? Debatable. Best guard? Debatable. Best passer? No. Best ball handler? No. Won the most titles? No. Best defending guard? Debatable. Is Phelps the fastest swimmer of all time? Yes. Not debatable. Mr. Buddy Garrity, BADSANTA, TxHoops and 1 other 4 Quote
TxHoops Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, oldschool2 said: I personally think it's no question that Phelps is the more accomplished athlete. I'm a huge MJ fan. He is definitely one of if not the greatest to have ever played the game of basketball. But team sport accolades are also dependant of having a good team. During the peak of MJ's career there were 2 other Top 50 NBA all time players on his same team. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve everything he accomplished, I'm just saying team sports are different. Even during those years his team lost games. And some games he wasn't leading scorer on his own team. There are certain events that Phelps has never lost. Ever. Is MJ the best scorer of all time? Debatable. Best guard? Debatable. Best passer? No. Best ball handler? No. Won the most titles? No. Best defending guard? Debatable. Is Phelps the fastest swimmer of all time? Yes. Not debatable. Well stated. Quote
stevenash Posted August 14, 2016 Author Report Posted August 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, TxHoops said: Well stated. Second that. Quote
TxHoops Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 Better question: Is it time to do a Phelps remake of this commercial? And I think maybe the most important thing to learn from this discussion is that in order to be the GOAT, you must be named Michael... Honest Abe and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 1 minute ago, TxHoops said: Better question: Is it time to do a Phelps remake of this commercial? And I think maybe the most important thing to learn from this discussion is that in order to be the GOAT, you must be named Michael... I second that. TxHoops and Crawford72 2 Quote
BADSANTA Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 It's hard to compare team sports vd individual sports Quote
whsalum Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 Let's not forget a lot of Phelps gold medals were in the relays . He is a great athlete no doubt but all of his gold's were not individual accomplishments . We will probably never see the likes of his accomplishments again. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
kingjames Posted August 14, 2016 Report Posted August 14, 2016 How many gold medals phelps got as a team like relay. Phelps can't compare to the money Jordan making I think like a 100 million last year just on brand Jordan's and I think it's just as hard to win in team sports because you have to all sink and have the same goal great players always make the supporting cast better but lost in all this both guys are great at what they do Quote
stevenash Posted August 14, 2016 Author Report Posted August 14, 2016 How much money one makes does not relate directly to greatness. If Bill Russell was playing in modern times, I suspect his earnings and endorsementts would surpass that of everyone else. JMO From my perspective, there is far less room for Phelps to make an "error" than there would have been for Jordan. Quote
ST413 Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 I definitely agree Jordan had more room for error as a part of a team. There is no good way to compare an individual sport vs a team sport. The closest thing to me of an individual aspect for MJ was when someone made a statement against Jordan and then MJ always responded in a big way. Awful tough for me to take one over the other both ruled their world. Quote
kingjames Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 In your opinion Nash and I have mine just like you prob think HJ will beat Silsbee in my opinion no u have yours I have mine lol Quote
navydawg31 Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 44 minutes ago, ST413 said: I definitely agree Jordan had more room for error as a part of a team. There is no good way to compare an individual sport vs a team sport. The closest thing to me of an individual aspect for MJ was when someone made a statement against Jordan and then MJ always responded in a big way. Awful tough for me to take one over the other both ruled their world. You are right on MJ having more room for error then phelps. phelps had one race to win a gold in the championship round vs you have 7 games to close out a series even though MJ never needed 7 to do it. Quote
ST413 Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 And Usain Bolt just put his name right there as well. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
BADSANTA Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 If you looked at it this way you may compare. Phelps 28 Medals Jordan 5 League MVPS, 6 Finals MVPs, 3 Allstar game MVPs, 1 defense player award, 2 dunk contest championships, 13 time all NBA 1st team. Quote
ST413 Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 Dunk contest championships?? Don't think I would count that one as far as a best player statistic... Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 39 minutes ago, ST413 said: Dunk contest championships?? Don't think I would count that one as far as a best player statistic... and 3 All Star game MVP's. Everyone knows all star games of any professional sport is a complete farce in compared to the real games. Quote
ST413 Posted August 15, 2016 Report Posted August 15, 2016 15 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: and 3 All Star game MVP's. Everyone knows all star games of any professional sport is a complete farce in compared to the real games. True. Quote
BADSANTA Posted August 16, 2016 Report Posted August 16, 2016 Allstar games use to be played as if they were real games in the 80's and early 90s. I remember watching games where they were very competitive not like they are now. Check out the 1988, 1990, 1986, and 1992 all star games. Tell me those weren't played like Game 7 of the Finals. Quote
stevenash Posted August 16, 2016 Author Report Posted August 16, 2016 17 hours ago, winwin said: Swimming is a sport??? If it isn't, seems like you would also have to disqualify all track events as well. Quote
BLUEDOVE3 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Posted August 16, 2016 On 8/14/2016 at 9:38 AM, stevenash said: Who is the greater, more accomplished athlete? Phelps or Jordan? If I was a Republican, I would say M.J. merely based on net worth. Quote
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