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1 hour ago, nappyroots said:

opened minded folks in the middle will decide this election. the far right and the far left will vote their side no matter what

Is that somehow different from every other election ever held?

Posted
2 hours ago, nappyroots said:

opened minded folks in the middle will decide this election. the far right and the far left will vote their side no matter what

Am I open minded about more entitlements...no.

Am I open minded about higher taxes...no.

Am I open minded about increasing the size of gov...no.

Does that make me far right?

Open minded folks in the middle = moderates = not well informed enough about the candidates that I can't be swayed by news snippets and smooth talking...won't be bothered to do my own research.

Posted
2 hours ago, stevenash said:

Is that somehow different from every other election ever held?

its a little different because trump has aroused the attention of a different republican voting block. Ive never seen so many high ranking republicans denounce their candidate. From George HW Bush, Romney ..........

Posted
2 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Am I open minded about more entitlements...no.

Am I open minded about higher taxes...no.

Am I open minded about increasing the size of gov...no.

Does that make me far right?

Open minded folks in the middle = moderates = not well informed enough about the candidates that I can't be swayed by news snippets and smooth talking...won't be bothered to do my own research.

I think your pushing the max limits of the far right

Posted
1 hour ago, new tobie said:

its a little different because trump has aroused the attention of a different republican voting block. Ive never seen so many high ranking republicans denounce their candidate. From George HW Bush, Romney ..........

I've got about as much respect for them now, as I do Colin Powell.

Posted
1 hour ago, new tobie said:

I think your pushing the max limits of the far right

Thats very sad that you consider his views to be extreme.  So you honestly believe that wanting to limit the size of government, the extent of taxation and entitlements is far right?

Posted
1 hour ago, stevenash said:

Thats very sad that you consider his views to be extreme.  So you honestly believe that wanting to limit the size of government, the extent of taxation and entitlements is far right?

When you believe that Socialism is "open-minded" and fair and that Capitalism allows White people to suppress minorities then yes.

Posted
6 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Am I open minded about more entitlements...no.

Am I open minded about higher taxes...no.

Am I open minded about increasing the size of gov...no.

Does that make me far right?

Open minded folks in the middle = moderates = not well informed enough about the candidates that I can't be swayed by news snippets and smooth talking...won't be bothered to do my own research.

can...much better.

Posted
1 hour ago, new tobie said:

congress fails because it operates like a bird. with a bird it takes the right wing and the left wing operating properly to lift the middle. 

Although cute, I don't agree with this analogy at all. The middle does not need government interference. Congress fails when both sides agree that they need to stick their noses into places it doesn't belong.

Posted
On 9/23/2016 at 7:35 AM, Englebert said:

Although cute, I don't agree with this analogy at all. The middle does not need government interference. Congress fails when both sides agree that they need to stick their noses into places it doesn't belong.

The approval rating of congress proves that they are failing miserably 

Posted
5 hours ago, new tobie said:

The approval rating of congress proves that they are failing miserably 

So why do they keep getting re-elected?

When you look at the approval rating for individual congress members amongst their constituents, many have high approval ratings, higher than Obama. The approval rating for the group is low. And if you use approval ratings as a gauge for action, shouldn't Obamacare be repealed immediately?

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Just now, nappyroots said:

The middle makes America great, the middle is not controlled by hate

Remind me again about the arguments of BLM. Aren't they railing against their assumption that certain people are committing crimes that go unpunished?

And how is wanting a person to pay for her criminal activity considered hate. Do you understand the definition of hate, or do you just throw around terms because you think they sound good. I'm guessing you will throw out the race card next even though Hillary is white.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Englebert said:

Remind me again about the arguments of BLM. Aren't they railing against their assumption that certain people are committing crimes that go unpunished?

And how is wanting a person to pay for her criminal activity considered hate. Do you understand the definition of hate, or do you just throw around terms because you think they sound good. I'm guessing you will throw out the race card next even though Hillary is white.

I didn't defend the left or right. I bragged on the middle. Its great that we have open minded people in the world. The far left and far right sucks.

Posted
2 hours ago, nappyroots said:

The middle wants to see trumps taxes

I don't...why do you want to see them?

I don't want to see Clinton's taxes either...if there was something illegal done, I would expect the IRS to be on it.

What the Trump haters want to see is if Trump has somehow managed to pay little in taxes (doesn't matter if it's legal) so they can scream foul.

It won't change their lives one bit, but they want to see the evil rich man pay his fair share.

If he has legally managed to pay little in taxes, I say more power to him for keeping it out of the wasteful hands of the fed gov.

Posted
4 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I don't...why do you want to see them?

I don't want to see Clinton's taxes either...if there was something illegal done, I would expect the IRS to be on it.

What the Trump haters want to see is if Trump has somehow managed to pay little in taxes (doesn't matter if it's legal) so they can scream foul.

It won't change their lives one bit, but they want to see the evil rich man pay his fair share.

If he has legally managed to pay little in taxes, I say more power to him for keeping it out of the wasteful hands of the fed gov.

If obama would have pulled this tax stunt you guys would have been all over it. Trump wanted to see the birth certificate himself. What a hypocrite 

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