Roy hobbs Posted February 26, 2007 Report Posted February 26, 2007 When this program first came out a lot of the area pitchers got on, but I have heard conflicting reports about this program causing arm problems. I know several area teams have pitchers injured. I was wondering if the injuries are a result of this program?
MIF04 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Posted February 26, 2007 Man, you have opened a can of worms ...Don't like the program. Don't like the weighted balls. But don't want to debate it again (this came up last year, too).
strosbros Posted February 26, 2007 Report Posted February 26, 2007 Huge can of worms indeed. Most medical professionals advise against weighted balls regardless of the season for kids under age 17.
cardinal9 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 i dont see why yall think you should not throw weighted Balls during season i mean you throw a baseball thats a weighted ball its 5 oz.
cardinal9 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 All throwing weighted balls does is get kids hurt. Best way to improve arm strength is long toss. I have heard multiple stories of kids being injured that did the program... If you thow them right and from a safe distance that is the best way to improve arm strengthif they injured their arms that is because they didn't thow them right
2bagger Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 the "right" way to throw a weighted ball is straight into the trash can.
cardinal9 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 the "right" way to throw a weighted ball is straight into the trash can.i guess you can say that to D1 colleges that throw weighted balls because that is the best way for you to build velocity and arm strength
espn2 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 If you thow them right and from a safe distance that is the best way to improve arm strengthif they injured their arms that is because they didn't thow them right If it were the best way to improve arm strength then all of the people who have millions of dollars a year on the line would throw them to get an edge. And I have never heard of actual big league players doing this. Perhaps you have, but I know of several organizations who do not allow their pitchers to pick up anything that weighs more than a baseball. And that is from the show to single A. And the organization has 100's of millions of dollars on the line. They don't want to risk it with their young prospects. So why would a high school kid who isn't even finished developing physically have better luck.
strosbros Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 If you thow them right and from a safe distance that is the best way to improve arm strengthif they injured their arms that is because they didn't thow them right If you don't throw them at all, the chances of being injured from throwing a weighted ball goes down to zero. I like those odds.
WarriorSports Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 I can tell you that weighted balls killed me when I was still pitching in college..I never had arm problems until our head coach introduced the weighted ball program in the fall semester..3 of our pitchers including me developed these problems..cant say 100% that the weighted balls did it but its a good start!
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devildawg Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 I feel the common misconception is tht arm strength creates velocity, velocity is created by arm speed. The faster the arm moves threw the throw the faster the pitch. The arm strength created through long toss allows you to work on moving the arm faster threw the throw more often without fatigue. Just an idea!
play-ball!! Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 i been in the weighted ball program for 3 years it has not hurt my arm yet its made it better and stronger you have to know the program before you start dogging on it and saying its not good
strosbros Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 i been in the weighted ball program for 3 years it has not hurt my arm yet its made it better and stronger you have to know the program before you start dogging on it and saying its not goodI know the program well enough to know through research and personal experience that it is a bad idea for kids under 17. Why take the risk when there are other methods of improving your skills that have not been reported to cause injury in this age group? I wish you well, Play-Ball, and hope the weighted ball does not put an end to your pitching career before you are ready to walk away from the game as it has so many others.
BBallFan24 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 Weighted balls can create arm problems if your arm action etc... is off but throwing a weighted ball shouldn't create problems at short distances... but wouldn't want to focus to heavily during the season on it.
Guest baseball25 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 I've been a pitcher all my life and played at the college level and I will tell you this all my coaches do not like the weighed ball program because it puts stress on the elbow.....I have tried it once and never had liked it.....If you want to build arm strength the best way to do it is long toss long toss and long toss.....
play-ball!! Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 yeah man i know what your talking about im just saying when you know how the program works and you have the right action in it then it really improves everything Coach Sam Moore has a good facility but you do know a baseball is a weighted ball i know what where your coming from though
Guest baseball25 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 I mean my coaches Ruben Felix which is with the clevland Indians and Charlie Corbell which was the pitching coach for the expos single A team never ever favored the program........
JSINGLE22 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 Maybe it can improve arm strength, but can 1 or 2 high school coaches keep an eye on every kid to make sure they are doing it correctly?Yes they can keep there eyes on the kids its there JOB to COACH and to get his team to Excell. Mainly its kids trying to throw it to hard or to far.
Guest baseball25 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Posted February 28, 2007 weighted balls came out like 8 years ago now these days you hardly ever hear people using weighted balls becasue it puts to much pressure on you elbow....Like i said me being a pitcher and the college coaches that taught me, the best thing to do is long toss your butt off........starts from 10 ft and make your way to 145ft and then work you way back down......thats the best way to get arm strenght and to alot of core excersices do alot of ab work when medicine balls.......becasue your core is a big part about pitching....
EAGLE07 Posted March 1, 2007 Report Posted March 1, 2007 Not to beat a dead horse, as Joe Friday stated...Last 2 cents my kid doesn't use 'em...Weighted balls should be a class 2 felony ! But to each their own..I prefer long toss and lots of running for condition...There I hope I've help to save the horse.
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EAGLE07 Posted March 2, 2007 Report Posted March 2, 2007 And now you have it....Bleachercreature nails it ! The near death horse is now in rehab...Maybe from throwing to many weighted balls....sorry I couldn't help it. Put another way, I've asked 1,000 "baseball experts " about this topic. You guessed it...got 1,000 different answers !
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