Hardin-Jefferson 110 West Orange-Stark 57/FINAL

[WOSgrad]

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[ST413]

This one isn't going to be nice!

[WOSgrad]

45 minutes ago, ST413 said:

This one isn't going to be nice!

It might not even happen.  The course of business for Mustang basketball has been to cancel games until the football season ends.

[AggiesAreWe]

31 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:

It might not even happen.  The course of business for Mustang basketball has been to cancel games until the football season ends.

I agree. Not too sure this one will be played.

[AggiesAreWe]

Looks as though the game will be played.

Just got a JV score:

WO-S JV  45

HJ JV        50   Final

[stevenash]

Varsity Final   110-57.  WO suited 9 players but vast majority of players who will get meaningful time was not present.  HJ missing 2 due to injury and 3 from football.

[Mamba]

Is that the most HJ has ever scored Nash?

[stevenash]

15 minutes ago, BlkMamba24 said:

Is that the most HJ has ever scored Nash?

I dont think so.  I have been watching them many years and the 91 state championship team once had a game over 150

[TxHoops]

21 minutes ago, BlkMamba24 said:

Is that the most HJ has ever scored Nash?

 

6 minutes ago, stevenash said:

I dont think so.  I have been watching them many years and the 91 state championship team once had a game over 150

That team AVERAGED just under 110 per game for the season.  Nash is correct - their high game that year was over 150, it was 166.  Could have been higher but they let off the gas in the second half - they had 96 AT HALF of that game. 

[TxHoops]

And while that team is top 5 in basically all the major scoring records nationally, they are second in the state.  The 09-10 Yates team set virtually all the scoring records in the country.  Of course, Yates did have the advantage of having a top notch communications program...

[Mamba]

Yea i remember that Yates team they were the monsters kn space jam lol . I didnt know HJ had a team thats scored like that 166 pts is something serious. And to avg 100+ a game is even really impressive . 

[BADSANTA]

Yes 1991 HJ was extremely talented 

[stevenash]

The 91 state champions averaged a little over 90 points per game.  The 91-92 team that lost in the regional final averaged 109.4 pts per game all all the records Yates broke were held by the 91-92 Hj team( without a communications program)

[Barney Fife]

sounds like this years Hj team is pretty darn good or at least has some potential to be good.  110 pts is impressive no matter who the opponent is.this has to be a result of really good defense or really good shooting but in most cases a combination of both. All the talk about them loosing the kids to west brook and being small seems like it was all wasted breath. Im sure ill be able to catch a few games after the hawks make a long football playoff run. but is always tough for me Ive been torn between home ( silsbee) and my new love hate relationship of HJ lol

[stevenash]

The team is pretty young and it will take some time to be able to gauge what their potential is.  I have watched them in a few scrimmages and their youth still shows often.  They don't have a lot of height and they (collectively) don't have a lot of varsity experience.  They do have an exceptional amount of character and work ethic and we can certainly hope they use that to whatever advantage they can.

[oldschool2]

28 minutes ago, Barney Fife said:

sounds like this years Hj team is pretty darn good or at least has some potential to be good.  110 pts is impressive no matter who the opponent is.this has to be a result of really good defense or really good shooting but in most cases a combination of both. All the talk about them loosing the kids to west brook and being small seems like it was all wasted breath. Im sure ill be able to catch a few games after the hawks make a long football playoff run. but is always tough for me Ive been torn between home ( silsbee) and my new love hate relationship of HJ lol

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Nope...it does matter who the opponent is.  I know they were missing a couple guys too, but WOS was probably missing almost the entire team to football.  Not only that...they probably aren't real solid WITH their varsity kids from football. A varsity team ringing up over 100 on basically a JV team is expected.  This game shouldn't have been played.

[ST413]

Depending on who was missing this summer WOS is going to have a tough year.  WHEn  saw them they had a hard time getting the ball over the front of the rim when shooting.even in the paint.  One entire half saw only 2 or 3 shots clear the front of the rim.

[TxHoops]

46 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

Nope...it does matter who the opponent is.  I know they were missing a couple guys too, but WOS was probably missing almost the entire team to football.  Not only that...they probably aren't real solid WITH their varsity kids from football. A varsity team ringing up over 100 on basically a JV team is expected.  This game shouldn't have been played.

Coach Davis has tremendously upgraded the Hawks schedule since taking over.  And although this turned out to be a "walk" for HJ, I don't think scheduling  former district rival (who is a playoff team more often than not recently) was a stretch.  

[oldschool2]

8 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Coach Davis has tremendously upgraded the Hawks schedule since taking over.  And although this turned out to be a "walk" for HJ, I don't think scheduling  former district rival (who is a playoff team more often than not recently) was a stretch.  

 

I'm not saying it was a bad one to put on the schedule...but after realizing the football team was again involved in a deep run...might not have been necessary.  Unless you just want a win on the record...or give a bunch of younger kids a chance to get some court time.  I don't know...just me.

[Barney Fife]

22 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

I'm not saying it was a bad one to put on the schedule...but after realizing the football team was again involved in a deep run...might not have been necessary.  Unless you just want a win on the record...or give a bunch of younger kids a chance to get some court time.  I don't know...just me.

both teams were missing football players and from what I hear  H J had three regular basketball players out with injury. I wasnt knocking wos at all by my earlier post everyone in the state of Texas understands Basketball will be difficult well into December for them. but obvious credit has to be given to the H J staff. not ranked ,only  1 returner and two big transfers to BISD. and the hawks still come out on top BIG. WE ALL CAN SAY THEY DID THEIR JOB!!!! 

[oldschool2]

3 minutes ago, Barney Fife said:

both teams were missing football players and from what I hear  H J had three regular basketball players out with injury. I wasnt knocking wos at all by my earlier post everyone in the state of Texas understands Basketball will be difficult well into December for them. but obvious credit has to be given to the H J staff. not ranked ,only  1 returner and two big transfers to BISD. and the hawks still come out on top BIG. WE ALL CAN SAY THEY DID THEIR JOB!!!! 

 

I'm not saying you were knocking anyone.  I'm just saying that competition, does in fact, matter...especially in this case.  Even if HJ was missing a few players or however many...WOS is not great even with their entire varsity roster.  Last year they had a state championship football team and were sub-par (at the very best) in basketball.  With the same kids.  So no.  It's not as impressive as the score may indicate.  Even with missing players..a school like HJ, with probably several straight basketball kids, and as much tradition as most schools anywhere...ringing up 100 on a team that isn't very good to begin with and has 90% of their kids missing on top of that...isn't very impressive.

Not a knock on anyone.  It just is what it is.

[whsalum]

The Hawks look like a club that is really having fun playing together. I'm sure there will be some growing pains as always with young teams but they have a ton of potential. Looked like a well balanced group 1-10 from what I saw. Defensively they looked pretty quick , they will be fun to watch.

[BLUEDOVE3]

On 11/16/2016 at 9:47 PM, stevenash said:

I dont think so.  I have been watching them many years and the 91 state championship team once had a game over 150

Who they beat?  Nederland Little Dribblers? 

[whsalum]

If they won state, everybody they played once the playoffs started  

[TxHoops]

2 hours ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

Who they beat?  Nederland Little Dribblers? 

I think HF was on their schedule somewhere...

Sorry, I miss Mr. Buddy Garrity