Tigers2010 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 My actual insurance premiums Before Obamacare- $412 After Obamacare- $1,157 Thanks Obama, swell job. I don't have the numbers either, but I do know the stock market surged significantly when Trump won the election. Why was that? Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 Democrats will tell you the AFFORDABLE CARE ACT needs tweaking. It's not perfect. Some meaningful engagement by conservatives could have landed a better plan. Quote
Tigers2010 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 What are his numbers in terms of Russia and ISIS. How much has the number of radical Islamic terrorist (ISIS) grown in his 8 years? Quote
stevenash Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, Remmus said: Ahhh yes, comparing the bottom of a recession to an 8 year recovery that is weaker in terms of GDP( widely accepted as the best total indicator of an economy)than any other and about half of the average post recession recovery. Wonder why they didn't include the number of people on food stamps for those two dates or the amount of national debt for those two dates? If the recovery/economy was/is so vibrant, why has the Fed continued to hold interest rates lower than they have been in 50 years and why was our national debt downgraded for the first time in history- Don't tell me, I think I know your answer. These are either lies perpetrated by Fox News or it's George Bush's fault. Quote
Tigers2010 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, stevenash said: Ahhh yes, comparing the bottom of a recession to an 8 year recovery that is weaker in terms of GDP( widely accepted as the best total indicator of an economy)than any other and about half of the average post recession recovery. Wonder why they didn't include the number of people on food stamps for those two dates or the amount of national debt for those two dates? If the recovery/economy was/is so vibrant, why has the Fed continued to hold interest rates lower than they have been in 50 years and why was our national debt downgraded for the first time in history- Don't tell me, I think I know your answer. These are either lies perpetrated by Fox News or it's George Bush's fault. He is rapidly turning into Big Girl Hagar 1 Quote
stevenash Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 If he isn't ECO, he is his twin brother. Remmus 1 Quote
tvc184 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Remmus said: Even you must realize that those numbers are bogus. Yes unemployment is down, because many people have simply left the work force and we have the lowest worker participation in decades. Your rationale is like doing away with DWI laws and using that as evidence that drinking and driving is no longer a problem. Unemployment is horrendous and wages are down and in many cases only for part time jobs. The Dow took a dip because of a recession. In fact the Dow was about 17,000 in the late 90's so realistically it has risen but about 1,800 in almost 20 years. This meme takes a tiny snippet of time to make nonsensical comparisons. Quote
baddog Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, Remmus said: I notice absolutely nothing in there about foreign policy, national security, isis/terrorism......oh that's right, he has no policy for any of those. All your info is cyclical and has no bearing on who is president. However, Trump has moved the Dow considerably and hasn't even been sworn in yet. Why is that? Could it be there is hope for a future? Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Tigers2010 said: My actual insurance premiums Before Obamacare- $412 After Obamacare- $1,157 Thanks Obama, swell job. I don't have the numbers either, but I do know the stock market surged significantly when Trump won the election. Why was that? Didn't our state legislature turn down fed funds to make the plan more affordable? I recall Tricky Ricky making a big hoopla. #sabotage Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, stevenash said: Ahhh yes, comparing the bottom of a recession to an 8 year recovery that is weaker in terms of GDP( widely accepted as the best total indicator of an economy)than any other and about half of the average post recession recovery. Wonder why they didn't include the number of people on food stamps for those two dates or the amount of national debt for those two dates? If the recovery/economy was/is so vibrant, why has the Fed continued to hold interest rates lower than they have been in 50 years and why was our national debt downgraded for the first time in history- Don't tell me, I think I know your answer. These are either lies perpetrated by Fox News or it's George Bush's fault. The answer the recovery isn't as strong as it should have been is just as bad as saying the economy isn't as bad as it would have been. Them food stamp lines started due to the policies of the past administration. Thank God we helped out ppl. Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, tvc184 said: Even you must realize that those numbers are bogus. Yes unemployment is down, because many people have simply left the work force and we have the lowest worker participation in decades. Your rationale is like doing away with DWI laws and using that as evidence that drinking and driving is no longer a problem. Unemployment is horrendous and wages are down and in many cases only for part time jobs. The Dow took a dip because of a recession. In fact the Dow was about 17,000 in the late 90's so realistically it has risen but about 1,800 in almost 20 years. This meme takes a tiny snippet of time to make nonsensical comparisons. You slam Dem talking points, but spew Rep talking points. Gotta explain away any success otherwise they'll never vote for us. Quote
stevenash Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Remmus said: You slam Dem talking points, but spew Rep talking points. Gotta explain away any success otherwise they'll never vote for us. To what success do you refer? If LeBron James averages 30 points a game and then has a game where he only scores 8 followed a game in which he has 16, should the headlines say "James last two games scored considerably below his average" or should it say " James pours in 16 points, 100% better than his last game"? Quote
Hagar Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, stevenash said: To what success do you refer? If LeBron James averages 30 points a game and then has a game where he only scores 8 followed a game in which he has 16, should the headlines say "James last two games scored considerably below his average" or should it say " James pours in 16 points, 100% better than his last game"? Lmbo, that last line is right out of the leftist media playbook. They learn that in Journalism 101. Make the poop sound good, even if it looks and smells bad. I think it's what O'Reilly calls "Spin". Quote
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