Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
baddog Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 Funny how you never see the before and after video, just the slam. Go with it Remmus. You are obviously not a centrist. What happened just before the slam? Was it recorded and posted on social media? Of course not. Quote
baddog Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Remmus said: Maybe she had a gun? Good deflection. Funny how a centrist always picks a side. Quote
tvc184 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 Knowledge of what actually happened would be nice but I am assuming we should build the gallows after seeing a few seconds of video and having no other facts at hand. Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 The report is the cop had a body camera. The footage has not been released yet. My conspiracy theory is the longer it takes for the footage to come out, the worse it is for the police. If I were that young lady's father and the reports of witnesses are true ...I'd want to lay hands on that cop. I have a 12 year old daughter so it hit home for me. It sure looks like that cop could have collared that 100lb kid and marched her to the office. We'll see. Quote
stevenash Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 Rem- Generally speaking- are you distrustful of Law enforcement in this country? Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, stevenash said: Rem- Generally speaking- are you distrustful of Law enforcement in this country? Short answer is no. I grew up in an affluent area (grades K-12) and attended excellent schools. Never had one bad experience with a police officer. Our local department was really good IMO and they visited the schools, little league and so on. Then through some bad decisions I found myself, wife, n baby in an apartment in d hood of Philly. I got another look at policing. Also the Rodney King thing popped off and all the stories from LA and I became more leary of cops honesty Quote
stevenash Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 Then let me make a guess regarding you and law enforcement. 1. You believe in the case of George ZImmerman that justice wasn't served. 2. You believe in the case of O.J. SImpson that justice was served. When you are policing in, as you call it, da hood, do you think/understand why a police officer has to be more circumspect and extra vigilant while on the job? Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 Zimmerman should have kept his a** in the house n waited for the police. If Trayvon was breaking in, shoot em. Did Trayvon have the right to stand his ground? BTW, based on his parents young Trayvon wasn't a wasn't a wild Ninja. Just cuz you own a gun doesn't mean you get to play cop. Cops have one of the toughest jobs in our society. They aren't paid particularly well either but you don't get to body slam 12 year olds and kill at will Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 Philly is one big hood for the most part. My area was Italian & Irish. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Remmus said: Zimmerman should have kept his a** in the house n waited for the police. If Trayvon was breaking in, shoot em. Did Trayvon have the right to stand his ground? BTW, based on his parents young Trayvon wasn't a wasn't a wild Ninja. Just cuz you own a gun doesn't mean you get to play cop. Cops have one of the toughest jobs in our society. They aren't paid particularly well either but you don't get to body slam 12 year olds and kill at will Guess selling dope made him an angel. Quote
Remmus Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 Forgot: OJ is guilty but I always suspected he's covering for his son. Just a conspiracy theory Quote
Ty Cobb Posted January 6, 2017 Report Posted January 6, 2017 This is easy, #1 don't fight at school #2 obey the officers commands. Follow both #1 and #2 and you won't get slammed. Quote
stevenash Posted January 6, 2017 Report Posted January 6, 2017 But Rem believes those rules don't apply to certain societal segments because of things that happened 50 to 100 years ago and that behavior is therefore "understandable" and should be looked upon differently than for other segments of society. Quote
tvc184 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Posted January 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Remmus said: The report is the cop had a body camera. The footage has not been released yet. My conspiracy theory is the longer it takes for the footage to come out, the worse it is for the police. If I were that young lady's father and the reports of witnesses are true ...I'd want to lay hands on that cop. I have a 12 year old daughter so it hit home for me. It sure looks like that cop could have collared that 100lb kid and marched her to the office. We'll see. If it was in this area I can almost assure you that you will not see the footage because if it can be used in a criminal investigation, it is not public information. A department "may" release it at their discretion. Different states have freedom of information laws and what another state does depends on their laws. Quote
tvc184 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Posted January 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Remmus said: Zimmerman should have kept his a** in the house n waited for the police. If Trayvon was breaking in, shoot em. Did Trayvon have the right to stand his ground? BTW, based on his parents young Trayvon wasn't a wasn't a wild Ninja. Just cuz you own a gun doesn't mean you get to play cop. Cops have one of the toughest jobs in our society. They aren't paid particularly well either but you don't get to body slam 12 year olds and kill at will What someone "should" have done on most occasions has no bearing on a criminal investigation. Martin had no right to stand his ground if he was breaking the law as he was doing as he attacked Zimmerman. Who kills at will? Out of the 13 million arrests by the police each year, many against very violent criminals who many times resist arrest, how many are killed at will? What do you call "aren't paid particularly well"? Quote
Remmus Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Posted January 6, 2017 2 hours ago, BS Wildcats said: Guess selling dope made him an angel. That dope came in 12 magical colors and tasted like skittles. Even if he was a drug dealer, Zimmerman doesn't get to play cop (we know he wanted that job badly). We don't give the death penalty to drug dealers. Quote
Remmus Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Posted January 6, 2017 40 minutes ago, Ty Cobb said: This is easy, #1 don't fight at school #2 obey the officers commands. Follow both #1 and #2 and you won't get slammed. You sure about that? The report is she was trying to break up the fight her sister was in. Her thank you was a concussion. Looks like the Cop issued justice before investigation...we'll see. Quote
Remmus Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Posted January 6, 2017 38 minutes ago, stevenash said: But Rem believes those rules don't apply to certain societal segments because of things that happened 50 to 100 years ago and that behavior is therefore "understandable" and should be looked upon differently than for other segments of society. Cheap shot. Quote
tvc184 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Posted January 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Remmus said: That dope came in 12 magical colors and tasted like skittles. Even if he was a drug dealer, Zimmerman doesn't get to play cop (we know he wanted that job badly). We don't give the death penalty to drug dealers. I am not so sure about the idea of doesn't get to play cop. I am not familiar with FL laws but in TX a citizen has the same authority (not right) to arrest for certain crimes. In that section of the law it is even mentioned in the same sentence. It doesn't say a cop can do this but a citizen can do that. Quote
Remmus Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Posted January 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, tvc184 said: If it was in this area I can almost assure you that you will not see the footage because if it can be used in a criminal investigation, it is not public information. A department "may" release it at their discretion. Different states have freedom of information laws and what another state does depends on their laws. As a cop ...if you were in the locker room with this guy, what are you thinking or saying? Quote
tvc184 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Posted January 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Remmus said: As a cop ...if you were in the locker room with this guy, what are you thinking or saying? "What happened?" Quote
Remmus Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Posted January 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, tvc184 said: What someone "should" have done on most occasions has no bearing on a criminal investigation. Martin had no right to stand his ground if he was breaking the law as he was doing as he attacked Zimmerman. Who kills at will? Out of the 13 million arrests by the police each year, many against very violent criminals who many times resist arrest, how many are killed at will? What do you call "aren't paid particularly well"? Someone confronts you with a gun while you're walking home from the corner store. You defend yourself and you're breaking the law? Sounds like some good ole back woods justice to me. To risk your life? ...put a dollar amount on that. Last time I checked cops were paid $40-50K? Maybe my idea of good pay is skewed by O&G salaries. Quote
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