Another cop and civilian

[Remmus]

Wouldn't want to be the lone cop showing up at this call, but did he taz a kid yelling for her mother?  Don't think firing is in order here.  Had he shot and killed...uhhhh

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[Tigers2010]

21 hours ago, Remmus said:

Wouldn't want to be the lone cop showing up at this call, but did he taz a kid yelling for her mother?  Don't think firing is in order here.  Had he shot and killed...uhhhh

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What part of this did the cop do wrong? Remember one of our rules is , "Don't come toward a policeman, especially aggressive". He was trying to apprehend a criminal, or a suspect. His head was down securing arms and cuffs when another person approached him quickly. The needs to let the police do their jobs and not act ridiculous. We do not have the right to intervene with an arrest even if it is our parent being arrested. I have no issue with this video.

[Tigers2010]

21 hours ago, Remmus said:

Wouldn't want to be the lone cop showing up at this call, but did he taz a kid yelling for her mother?  Don't think firing is in order here.  Had he shot and killed...uhhhh

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Wait, in the video, right before he shocks this girl she is wearing a jacket. In the blink of in eye, (half a second of the video later) she was shocked and rolling around on the ground with no jacket.. This video was cut and edited. Typical. Had to be the white cop. Couldn't be the black lady resisting arrest and the black daughter trying to intervene.

[stevenash]

6 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

Wait, in the video, right before he shocks this girl she is wearing a jacket. In the blink of in eye, (half a second of the video later) she was shocked and rolling around on the ground with no jacket.. This video was cut and edited. Typical. Had to be the white cop. Couldn't be the black lady resisting arrest and the black daughter trying to intervene.

If NBC got hold of this video, there is no telling whether or not portions of it are missing

[Tigers2010]

1 minute ago, stevenash said:

If NBC got hold of this video, there is no telling whether or not portions of it are missing

There is not doubt part of it is missing. Watch as he raises the taser, the girl is wearing a black jacket. Then half a second later there is a skip, assuming where it had been edited, and she is rolling on the ground with no jacket. 

[LumRaiderFan]

I don't think it's appropriate to scrutinize the evidence so closely...I thought the acceptable practice was to jump to the immediate conclusion that the cop is wrong.

[stevenash]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I don't think it's appropriate to scrutinize the evidence so closely...I thought the acceptable practice was to jump to the immediate conclusion that the cop is wrong.

I am sure Big Girl and Rem will agree with you without a doubt.  Big Girl because everyone is a racist and Rem because he thinks these stories need "balance"

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, stevenash said:

I am sure Big Girl and Rem will agree with you without a doubt.  Big Girl because everyone is a racist and Rem because he thinks these stories need "balance"

lol...gotta have that balance.

[Hagar]

As always, portray the police officer as wrong.  I wonder if editing the tape would be a prime example off  the new buzz phrase, Fake News?

[stevenash]

42 minutes ago, REBgp said:

As always, portray the police officer as wrong.  I wonder if editing the tape would be a prime example off  the new buzz phrase, Fake News?

NO because it was done by the left or left sympathizers and when the cause is so noble, the means does not matter.

[tvc184]

The officer should have held back to wait for a backup that might have calmed the incident down. Maybe he wanted to but no other officers were available. Maybe he should have simply walked away and leave the woman standing there babbling. 

Maybe.....

I did not see any illegal actions however. Since this was in TX, our laws apply. There are two that come to mind.

The law says that you cannot resist even an unlawful arrest. If an officer tells you that you are under arrest, then you are. It is not open for debate at that point. Later it is very much up for grabs on his actions but on scene, the officer's words that you are under arrest are enough by law.

Then there is interfering with an officer trying to perform any authority. It does not require that the person breaking the law do so "intentionally". It doesn't even matter if the person was "reckless" in interfering with an officer. The culpable mental state for interfering with an officer in TX is if you do so with "criminal negligence". Negligence is as low of a standard as exist in law. If you do anything that interferes with an officer trying to do his job even if it was not intentionally, you have violated the law and can get up to 6 months in jail. 

On the other hand, for an officer to commit the crime of Official Oppression (kind of the TX version of a civil rights violation) it takes the officer to act "intentionally". The officer cannot merely make a mistake or hit someone four times when three might have been enough. It doesn't matter if the officer "could have" waited longer for a backed or used bad tactics. 

It is impossible to do any form of police work if every single action the officer takes is potentially a crime. Even under standards set by the US Supreme Court, it has to be viewed from the eyes of the officer having to make split second decisions and not cool calculations by someone in a room several weeks later that did not have to make that decisions. There are several such court rulings that back this up. 

People say it all the time and it goes over a lot of people's heads.... comply with the officer's commands. If you feel he is wrong, get you a good lawyer and sue him and the city he works for. Retire early. 

[Hagar]

17 hours ago, Tigers2010 said:

Wait, in the video, right before he shocks this girl she is wearing a jacket. In the blink of in eye, (half a second of the video later) she was shocked and rolling around on the ground with no jacket.. This video was cut and edited. Typical. Had to be the white cop. Couldn't be the black lady resisting arrest and the black daughter trying to intervene.

Good catch Tigers.  I don't think Remmus caught it before posting.  He's trying to assimilate, but still has a way to go.

[tvc184]

Editing? By the media to hide the truth?

Tell me it isn't so.....

[Hagar]

17 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

Editing? By the media to hide the truth?

Tell me it isn't so.....

Lol, nothing to see here, move along.

[Remmus]

2 hours ago, REBgp said:

Good catch Tigers.  I don't think Remmus caught it before posting.  He's trying to assimilate, but still has a way to go.

Trying to assimilate?...WTF.

[Hagar]

12 minutes ago, Remmus said:

Trying to assimilate?...WTF.

Your trying to be Texan, and making progress.  Maybe another year on this Forum, you might be a Texan (conservative lol).