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1 hour ago, whsalum said:
  • I'm not knocking Kountze because they are always good. For this group to be in a seeding game and to be Co district champs Coach Joubert would have to be in the Coach of the Year conversation. At times this year he had to do it with smoke and mirrors. Duane Joubert is one of the best coaches is Se Texas .

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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ReconMarine1980
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I want to rant for a sec,  while the National Anthem was being played,  some HJ Students wanted to laugh, cut up, anp play on their phones, being a United States Marine and a Vietnam Vet I was very up

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I'm not knocking Kountze because they are always good. For this group to be in a seeding game and to be Co district champs Coach Joubert would have to be in the Coach of the Year conversation. At time

TopDawG52
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And the talent is not the Usual Kountze talent....  Cant take nothing away from Buna they got a good ball club..  Wouldn't surprise me to see one of these teams make it to state. The Region is not as

aTmfan06

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25 minutes ago, TXHORN_ET said:

Some of y'all might want to discuss the job Coach Whitmire has done not only this season, but since he's taken over the basketball program in Buna. 

He has done a great job. But everyone knows what Kountze usually has year in and year out. Idk how long he has been there but he has what? About 3 wins vs Kountze. He has done a hell of a job with the program. But since he has been there what's the deepest playoff run they have had ?

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5 minutes ago, aTmfan06 said:

He has done a great job. But everyone knows what Kountze usually has year in and year out. Idk how long he has been there but he has what? About 3 wins vs Kountze. He has done a hell of a job with the program. But since he has been there what's the deepest playoff run they have had ?

3 rounds last year. His first two years was 10-11 and 11-12 and they did average but as a first time head coach and a really young one at that you probably couldn't ask to much.  Then the next two years Buna was moved up to 3A, now 4A, and had no chance of competing with the top 3 schools WOS, HJ, and Silsbee. Once moved backed down they have played really well in district and split with Kountze all three years and winning the tie breaker this year. Coach Whitmire is doing amazing things in Buna. 

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34 minutes ago, TXHORN_ET said:

Some of y'all might want to discuss the job Coach Whitmire has done not only this season, but since he's taken over the basketball program in Buna. 

Haven't seen much of Buna but i set behind buna bench when they played in kountze and i can tell u from watching him coach n make adjustments  during timeouts.. He knows what he is doing 

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Bryan is a great coach, my comment was in no way meant to slight him. My comment was in response to someone questioning Coach Joubert's job this year. The talent level on the two clubs this year was pretty equal and I believe they finished as co champs , faced each other 4 times and the results were 2-2. That's good stuff both ways.

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Both coaches are great. Joubert's record the last 10+ years speaks for itself. You can't be a legit state tourney contender every single year for over a decade without great coaching. The last couple years he has had to deal with a severe depth issue and even a lack of physical size compared to the kountze teams from several years back. Nevertheless they went to state 2 years ago and nearly returned last year. Nobody should question this man.

Whitmire inherented a CRAPPY program when he was only 24 or 25 yrs old. We had some 4 & 5 win seasons right before he took over, so it was bad. It took a few years but he has turned it around and made Buna a well respected program again. 2 years ago he broke a 12 or 13 year playoff drought, then last year led the team 3 rounds deep after losing 4 starters and 2 key bench players from the year before. He is still very young and still learning and will only get better. 

I expect to see some GREAT basketball between these two teams for years to come if these two coaches stay put. Gone are the days of Kountze running away with the district title year after year. 

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2 hours ago, Gregg Popovich said:

Both coaches are great. Joubert's record the last 10+ years speaks for itself. You can't be a legit state tourney contender every single year for over a decade without great coaching. The last couple years he has had to deal with a severe depth issue and even a lack of physical size compared to the kountze teams from several years back. Nevertheless they went to state 2 years ago and nearly returned last year. Nobody should question this man.

Whitmire inherented a CRAPPY program when he was only 24 or 25 yrs old. We had some 4 & 5 win seasons right before he took over, so it was bad. It took a few years but he has turned it around and made Buna a well respected program again. 2 years ago he broke a 12 or 13 year playoff drought, then last year led the team 3 rounds deep after losing 4 starters and 2 key bench players from the year before. He is still very young and still learning and will only get better. 

I expect to see some GREAT basketball between these two teams for years to come if these two coaches stay put. Gone are the days of Kountze running away with the district title year after year. 

Don't forget EC in that district race, Kountze is on a downward slope talent wise. Buna and EC will battle it out the next couple of years IMO,

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Oh absolutely. I only left EC out because they were not a part of the original discussion. I think these 3 teams are gonna beat the crap out of each other for many years to come. There will probably be some years where all 3 of them make the top 25 state rankings in the same season.

As far as Kountze going downhill, I will believe it when I see it. As far as talent, physical size, and bench depth, I will say that these recent Kountze teams look nothing like the teams I played against 6-8 years ago. Those teams had big kids, several talented playmakers, and a very deep bench. However, these smaller, less skilled Kountze teams of the past couple years have been experiencing the same level of success as those teams from several years back. And I credit that to their coaching and their playing style. I'm sure people from Kountze will disagree, but the fact is that they don't need a ton of talent or size to win with their playing style. They just need a handful of athletes that will run the floor, cause chaos and create turnovers, make the easy baskets, and hit a few 3's. 

I have always said that the 2 keys to beating/competing with Kountze is protecting the basketball and defending the 3-ball. Any decent team that can do those 2 things can compete with Kountze. The problem is that 90% of teams can't handle that fast, in-your-face full court pressure and they turn the ball over like crazy. And that is why Kountze has maintained success through this dip in talent and size. 

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2 hours ago, aTmfan06 said:

Kountze had 2 or three seasons years back were they didn't make it past the third round. As Kountze fans we call those down years. Kountze will be fine

That's true. I remember one year (Arnold's freshman season) we lost our first game in the playoffs, which was when they had the 1st round bye. However, the team we lost to was a Top-5 Tatum team. 

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2 minutes ago, KHSAlum400 said:

That's true. I remember one year (Arnold's freshman season) we lost our first in the playoffs, which was when they had the 1st round bye. However, the team we lost to was a Top-5 Tatum team. 

That loss still hurts... I honestly think if we win that game we are at state that year. 

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2 minutes ago, aTmfan06 said:

That loss still hurts... I honestly think if we win that game we are at state that year. 

Yep! I definitely agree. Grayland suffered some heartbreakers during his HS career. 2014 - lost on buzzer beater against Tatum. 2016 - lost on last second shot against East Chambers. 

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I know everyone is talking about Coach Whitmire from Buna and Coach J from Kountze being 2 of the best coaches in the area, and I agree 100%, but watching Kountze play and Buna Play,  their 2 Asst. Coaches work just as hard,  while both Head Coaches are talking to some of the players the 2 assts. are "working" the Officials are talking with other players, after watching some other High Schools play most Assts. sit on the bench and never say anything, and leave everything to the Head Coach,  Buna and Kountze Assts. are putting in the time with kids to do what they are supposed to do....Help the Head Coach..Both Coaches are extremely Lucky to have 2 Assts. who are willing to go the extra mile and do whatever it takes to support and help their Head Coaches and players to get to the next level..and I really feel good Assts. are hard to find, So Next time your at a game watch the Assts. and see how they contribute..Again good luck to both Buna and Kountze in the playoffs,  Both Teams have been amazing to watch this year...

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24 minutes ago, ReconMarine1980 said:

I know everyone is talking about Coach Whitmire from Buna and Coach J from Kountze being 2 of the best coaches in the area, and I agree 100%, but watching Kountze play and Buna Play,  their 2 Asst. Coaches work just as hard,  while both Head Coaches are talking to some of the players the 2 assts. are "working" the Officials are talking with other players, after watching some other High Schools play most Assts. sit on the bench and never say anything, and leave everything to the Head Coach,  Buna and Kountze Assts. are putting in the time with kids to do what they are supposed to do....Help the Head Coach..Both Coaches are extremely Lucky to have 2 Assts. who are willing to go the extra mile and do whatever it takes to support and help their Head Coaches and players to get to the next level..and I really feel good Assts. are hard to find, So Next time your at a game watch the Assts. and see how they contribute..Again good luck to both Buna and Kountze in the playoffs,  Both Teams have been amazing to watch this year...

Well said. Best of luck to Buna. Hopefully there will be a 5th meeting at the regional tournament!

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