prepballfan Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 Despite the situation with facilities and bonds I think we can all agree the kids at Nederland are fist class. May not be first class athletes but they will give it all they have. Whomever takes over their will have something to work with... Razor 1
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, Reagan said: So, new is good in some respects but old (Barrow) is good in others? Remember, it took an "outsider" to bring Nederland back to some kind of respectability. The board just needs to do the right thing. No home cooking! actually the last several hires have been outside hires. Neumann ofcourse was an outside hire but so was Bobby August, Steve Derouen, Ben Hurt, and Lloyd Wasserman. The last inside hire was Don Ross back in 1976
Brubaker Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 So was Derouen considered an outside hire because he wasnt at Nederland with Hurt??? Some are arguing he was a good ol boy hire and an outside hire... it gets confusing when people are all about boxes and not results
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Brubaker said: So was Derouen considered an outside hire because he wasnt at Nederland with Hurt??? Some are arguing he was a good ol boy hire and an outside hire... it gets confusing when people are all about boxes and not results well if you want to call it a good ol boy hire you can. He graduated from Nederland. He was at A&M when he was hired at Nederland before that he was at TJ with Ronnie Thompson.
Brubaker Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 So he had solid credentials and was from Nederland... wow, I didnt know that was possible. outanup and MMosley07 2
Reagan Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Razor said: Oh and there are successful people from Nederland, despite what you imply here...amazing, I know, but true Debatable!
Brubaker Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Razor said: wow Thats why some of these people have ZERO credibility outanup and Razor 2
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 Some might remember this but Neumann was not the first choice back in 1993. Dickie Meeks was the first choice but there was an issue with him wanting to bring in two assistants. The second choice Kendall Wheaton turned the job down leaving the door open for Neumann to take the job.
bobbymcgee Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 Now that I've seen the list no one on it is any standout so why not just go with Barrow?
Ned Nederlander Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 Does anyone have info on Simmons? I thought someone said he was a Nederland graduate. What year? Playing history and coaching background? Just curious.
The Icon Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Ned Nederlander said: Does anyone have info on Simmons? I thought someone said he was a Nederland graduate. What year? Playing history and coaching background? Just curious. Page 16 of this thread covers a lot of that
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 Simmons was a two way player for Nederland in 81 and 82 he played RB and DB. Went to College at Lamar. I believe he's been at Cinco Ranch since 2000 he's been the Defensive Coordinator there for a number of years
Stattrax Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 As I posted from the beginning..... Well I guess I might be the BAD guy here. LN was great for Nederland. He turned them from the laughing stock of the district into a contender for the DC yearly. I would think Nederland would be better off hiring Monte over an outsider. My reasons are this.. Nederland has been good at being a little above average. They are not making deep playoff runs on a regular basis. And we all know the facilities are not the best in the area, much less the state. That being said, I find it hard to believe they could get a better qualified, dedicated coach like Monte to replace LN. Big time coaches are looking for money, facilities, and athletes. Not bashing any Nederland coach or fan, because they have done better then everyone else in the district for years, and have been the only glimmer of hope many of years to go a few rounds. I just think as a whole, if I was looking for a place to coach.. I would first ask, why are bonds never passed in Nederland? Why do we have old facilities? And what does my feeder schools look like for athletes. And of course, how much money are you going to pay me!!! LN was a special coach that fit perfect in the city of Nederland. And IMO, you already have a guy on the staff that knows the city, fans, and families, that is dedicated, and has been mentored by LN for years... Good luck on whatever happens.... But as I have stated for years, you can never count out Nederland because of the LN factor.... It might be interesting now.... AthleticSupporter - Jock, Jag Insider, PlayActionPass and 3 others like this And that pretty much sums up 19 pages of this...... Quote Brubaker, prepballfan and MMosley07 3
prepballfan Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Stattrax said: As I posted from the beginning..... Well I guess I might be the BAD guy here. LN was great for Nederland. He turned them from the laughing stock of the district into a contender for the DC yearly. I would think Nederland would be better off hiring Monte over an outsider. My reasons are this.. Nederland has been good at being a little above average. They are not making deep playoff runs on a regular basis. And we all know the facilities are not the best in the area, much less the state. That being said, I find it hard to believe they could get a better qualified, dedicated coach like Monte to replace LN. Big time coaches are looking for money, facilities, and athletes. Not bashing any Nederland coach or fan, because they have done better then everyone else in the district for years, and have been the only glimmer of hope many of years to go a few rounds. I just think as a whole, if I was looking for a place to coach.. I would first ask, why are bonds never passed in Nederland? Why do we have old facilities? And what does my feeder schools look like for athletes. And of course, how much money are you going to pay me!!! LN was a special coach that fit perfect in the city of Nederland. And IMO, you already have a guy on the staff that knows the city, fans, and families, that is dedicated, and has been mentored by LN for years... Good luck on whatever happens.... But as I have stated for years, you can never count out Nederland because of the LN factor.... It might be interesting now.... AthleticSupporter - Jock, Jag Insider, PlayActionPass and 3 others like this And that pretty much sums up 19 pages of this...... Quote Stat ...wel spoken. I believe you have hit the nail on the head. I have kept my mouth shut because I do not pay my taxes or have my children there. I have an opinion that I would have opened it up. They did. The best candidate turned out to be who is already there. We all know the character of Mante. He is a class act and you would find noone who loves Nederland more than him. No matter who applies. If somone else had applied that was just to good to pass on then I would have had to consoder. They did not. ALthough the one guy from Katy is very intruiging
Brubaker Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 All I know is I dont want to face Bmt Central with Barrow at the wheel. Im sure they will work their opening to allow that possibility if Nederland fumbles. BMTSoulja1 1
chorizo Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 Would be very smart on bisd's part to go after monte and staff if they fumble..that staff and those athletes could be dangerous.. BMTSoulja1 1
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 2 hours ago, chorizo said: Would be very smart on bisd's part to go after monte and staff if they fumble..that staff and those athletes could be dangerous.. Dont see this happening to be honest. I also dont see Nelson ending up at Central either.
Brubaker Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: Dont see this happening to be honest. I also dont see Nelson ending up at Central either. No doubt, Nederland will hire Barrow, this scenario wont play out
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, Brubaker said: No doubt, Nederland will hire Barrow, this scenario wont play out The NISD schoolboard has a history of not hiring the most obvious candidate. All I can say is stay tuned. JoeBuck111 1
Brubaker Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: The NISD schoolboard has a history of not hiring the most obvious candidate. All I can say is stay tuned. The school board does NOT make the hire, this is run by the Superintendent, period
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Brubaker said: The school board does NOT make the hire, this is run by the Superintendent, period You don't think they have input though
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Brubaker said: The school board does NOT make the hire, this is run by the Superintendent, period The board must still vote to approve the hire
Brubaker Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: The board must still vote to approve the hire Thats a formality, the Sup runs the show and makes the call and can disregard the school board input
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Brubaker said: Thats a formality, the Sup runs the show and makes the call and can disregard the school board input The superintendent recommends a hire but the schoolboard can also vote against the hire. The hire can also turn the job down which is what happened back in 93
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