Monte Barrow named new HC/AD at Nederland!

[bulldog81]

1 hour ago, WOSgrad said:

Would either Simmons or Barrow be able to command Neumann-like money even if the AD title is kicked in?

It took Neumann 25 years to get to that salary. There is no reason why either one of those guys should start out being the highest paid coach in the area.

[Knoddy1]

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If the new coach carries on the winning tradition then the money will come (just like it did for Larry) if the losing starts no money, new coach

[InTheGates]

How about these Hypotheticals?

1- Coach Barrow gets offered AD/Hd Football and gets offered 92K a year....

2-Coach English offered AD at (92K) and Coach Barrow offered Hd Football (85k)....

3-Coach Simmons offered AD/Hd Football and gets offered 92K a year...

4-Coach English offered AD at (92K) and Barrow declines...New Applicant offered (85K) as Hd Football

The numbers above are just hypothetical and can be moved up or down....Are any of these unrealistic?

[KF89]

yes unrealistic if nisd is paying

[InTheGates]

13 minutes ago, kf89 said:

yes unrealistic if nisd is paying

Are you saying unrealistic that its too much or too little? Or that NISD will never offer enough to someone? 

[NHSBulldogFan]

1 hour ago, Woodforest14 said:

How about these Hypotheticals?

1- Coach Barrow gets offered AD/Hd Football and gets offered 92K a year....

2-Coach English offered AD at (92K) and Coach Barrow offered Hd Football (85k)....

3-Coach Simmons offered AD/Hd Football and gets offered 92K a year...

4-Coach English offered AD at (92K) and Barrow declines...New Applicant offered (85K) as Hd Football

The numbers above are just hypothetical and can be moved up or down....Are any of these unrealistic?

Scenario 4 won't happen. Simmons will not take the job without both ad and head football coach. The job likely will start in the mid 80k range and that's with both head coach and AD titles.

[KF89]

too much, for nisd

[NHSBulldogFan]

In my opinion Simmons will be offered the job first If no agreement can be reached then English will be ad with Barrow being named head coach.

[InTheGates]

5 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

Scenario 4 won't happen. Simmons will not take the job without both ad and head football coach. The job likely will start in the mid 80k range and

Scenario 4 

Was if Barrow declines and obviously Simmons is not coming unless the full package (I agree with ya here) This would be if someone new from outside then applied with just Football Hd Coaching duties

 

[InTheGates]

9 minutes ago, kf89 said:

too much, for nisd

Gotcha...The middle of the road for principals in NISD is mid to upper 80s...

[KF89]

2 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

In my opinion Simmons will be offered the job first If no agreement can be reached then English will be ad with Barrow being named head coach.

Why do you think simmons will be picked over Barrow?

[NHSBulldogFan]

2 minutes ago, kf89 said:

Why do you think simmons will be picked over Barrow?

From what I was told Simmons was the favorite going into the week but that could change

[JoeBuck111]

On 2/19/2017 at 3:18 PM, Knoddy1 said:

 

 

5 minutes ago, kf89 said:

Why do you think simmons will be picked over Barrow?

I don't think he will be , I think its been set up all long for English to  get AD and Barrow HC ... JMO 

[KF89]

If nisd gives 2 employees both $25,000 plus raises when 1 guy can do the job like 99% of other texas isd's there will be major budget issues & with all other teachers who want raises...

[Knoddy1]

If the AD job goes to anyone other than the Football HC then the priority of the football program in Nederland has just been seriously downgraded.  SAD

[JoeBuck111]

Well why would English even be in the top 3 , he's all basketball that's it! 

[NHSBulldogFan]

3 minutes ago, UpandIn said:

Well why would English even be in the top 3 , he's all basketball that's it! 

Exactly

[team first]

2 minutes ago, UpandIn said:

Well why would English even be in the top 3 , he's all basketball that's it! 

As  opposed to all football?

ad is for all sports not 1 only 

[KF89]

10 minutes ago, Knoddy1 said:

If the AD job goes to anyone other than the Football HC then the priority of the football program in Nederland has just been seriously downgraded.  SAD

100% fact if that happens

[KF89]

7 minutes ago, team first said:

As  opposed to all football?

ad is for all sports not 1 only 

Monte Barrow has been for ALL Nederland sports his whole life. He's coached several different ones & I seen him at all the sports games the last 23 yrs.

[JoeBuck111]

12 minutes ago, team first said:

As  opposed to all football?

ad is for all sports not 1 only 

I know I'm saying English a finalist for the HC doesn't make sense 

[Footballfan1209]

8 minutes ago, team first said:

As  opposed to all football?

ad is for all sports not 1 only 

This is very true and i agree that a good AD should be able to balance all the sports, but when was the last time during the regular season  you saw 7000+ attend a basketball, volleyball,baseball etc....game. Football is the money maker and this is TEXAS.

 

[Knoddy1]

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Basketball does not draw between 10 to 15000 fans, does not get the community fired up like football does, does not generate the revenue that football does, does not have a 200 piece marching band, westernaires, multiple concession stands, cheerleaders etc to compare the two is like comparing apples to oranges.....go to Indiana then you have a Basketball AD.

[NHSBulldogFan]

6 minutes ago, UpandIn said:

I know I'm saying English a finalist for the HC doesn't make sense 

It makes sense if English is offered Ad and Barrow is offered head coach

[KF89]

17 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

It makes sense if English is offered Ad and Barrow is offered head coach

What makes a better AD? 23 yrs learning the day to day job under an AD/Head football coach like Larry Neumann or the other options? Is this about controlling the hiring & athletic budget because some non football people believe their sports should get equal or more $$$ as football? Ive been to booster club meetings & trust me all the other sports do get taken care of. This should be about whats best for the whole athletic program & the best football coach for the town of Nederland. Head Basketball coach position is filled & program is in fine shape, no need to mess with a good thing right???