Honest Abe Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 Congrats to Monte. Well deserved after waiting 20 some odd years for his turn at the helm. No doubt he was the best choice for the job. I read a lot of people hoping for this outcome as well as a bump for coach English. Does anyone know if this was addressed? jake94 1
Bigdog Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Honest Abe said: Congrats to Monte. Well deserved after waiting 20 some odd years for his turn at the helm. No doubt he was the best choice for the job. I read a lot of people hoping for this outcome as well as a bump for coach English. Does anyone know if this was addressed? If by bump you are referring to pay, that is usually handled in the summer when they do the budget. This meeting was just to hire the AD/HC.
Honest Abe Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 Gotcha. I heard chatter that English is the lowest paid basketball coach in the area (regardless of classification). If true, that's a shame...My kid went through the bball program a few years back, and I know that Coach E. puts in more time with his kids than any bball coach in the area. Too bad there isn't more of a direct correlation with time/pay. jake94 1
Tigers2010 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Honest Abe said: Gotcha. I heard chatter that English is the lowest paid basketball coach in the area (regardless of classification). If true, that's a shame...My kid went through the bball program a few years back, and I know that Coach E. puts in more time with his kids than any bball coach in the area. Too bad there isn't more of a direct correlation with time/pay. I can not see this being true.
Honest Abe Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 I know it's true amongst 6A/5A/4A coaches, just didn't know/think it could be true for ALL classes. Either way, he deserves more, IMO. Tigers2010 and jake94 2
Hagar Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 Congratulations to Coach Barrow, and best of luck in your new position. A lot is expected of you, but you have the Tradition and fan/community support. That's two luxuries many new coaches don't have. Make it work.
AHUDDLESTON Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 That is not even close to being correct. Nederland is in the top 3 of teacher salaries in the area. The coaching stipends are pretty comparable. 1 hour ago, Honest Abe said: I heard chatter that English is the lowest paid basketball coach in the area (regardless of classification).
Bigdog Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, AHUDDLESTON said: That is not even close to being correct. Nederland is in the top 3 of teacher salaries in the area. The coaching stipends are pretty comparable. Yeah, and teacher's salaries are computed by years of service, so he probably has at least 20 years in by now including the time that he was at Vidor.
Tigers2010 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 I would bet he is the top 1 or 2 highest paid in his district.
team first Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Tigers2010 said: I would bet he is the top 1 or 2 highest paid in his district. Doubtful, you must not know what mem, and the bmt schools pay. So that rt there already puts him middle of the pack
Tigers2010 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, team first said: Doubtful, you must not know what men, and the bmt schools pay. So that rt there already puts him middle of the pack Maybe, I do not know. But, he does have many many years of service. So the comment about being the lowest paid coach in the area (regardless of class) seems way far fetched.
Tigers2010 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, team first said: Doubtful, you must not know what men, and the bmt schools pay. So that rt there already puts him middle of the pack Looking at both the NISD website Salary Scale and the BISD Salary Scale, with 20 years experience, Nederland pays 3k more than 20 years experience at BISD. Stipends are not available on the NISD website, but BISD pays HC for basketball 7.5k. Unless I am reading that wrong, Nederland actually pays more.
Bigdog Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, team first said: Doubtful, you must not know what men, and the bmt schools pay. So that rt there already puts him middle of the pack Well, as far as teacher's salaries goes, Nederland is about the same as BISD. Coaching wise, we know that the football coaches aren't paid as much at least the HCs. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up
Bigdog Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said: Looking at both the NISD website Salary Scale and the BISD Salary Scale, with 20 years experience, Nederland pays 3k more than 20 years experience at BISD. Stipends are not available on the NISD website, but BISD pays HC for basketball 7.5k. Unless I am reading that wrong, Nederland actually pays more. Yeah, you posted that right before I did. The salary schedules are above. Tigers2010 1
team first Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 so bmt Jv coaches are on par with Ned head basketball coach. we talking coaching , not teaching. That would be a whole knew can of worms, since some head coaches at those schools may not have any classes to teach at all
team first Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 Heck swimming assistant, on par with Ned head coach
Bigdog Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, team first said: so bmt Jv coaches are on par with Ned head basketball coach. we talking coaching , not teaching. That would be a whole knew can of worms, since some head coaches at those schools may not have any classes to teach at all Wow, you really need to re read the post. Coaches receive stipends on top of their teaching salaries, which partially goes by years of experience and advanced degrees. I don't know about BISD, but unless you are the AD every other coach has to teach classes and that is a large part of their salary.
team first Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, bigdog said: Wow, you really need to re read the post. Coaches receive stipends on top of their teaching salaries, which partially goes by years of experience and advanced degrees. I don't know about BISD, but unless you are the AD every other coach has to teach classes and that is a large part of their salary. Wow is rt, everyone and their mother knows Years for teachers. So once again English is paid as one of the lowest in the area for coaching basketball. Coaching pay class 101 Edited February 28, 2017 by team first
Bigdog Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, team first said: Wow is rt, everyone and their mother knows Years for teachers. So once again English is past as one of the lowest in the area for coaching basketball. Coaching pay class 101 *Sigh* I am getting tired of a pointless argument and this is way off topic, but here it goes. The BB coach at Central was making 53k (salaries and stipend) at Ozen in 2012. Assuming a modest increase, (Although BISD went through a salary freeze a couple of years ago) He is probably making around 60k at Central. If English has 20 years service( at least) as a teacher and even a modest stipend he is making more. Saveat was making 62k. Either way even if its a little less, English is still making around what BISD is paying. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Razor 1
Honest Abe Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 32 minutes ago, bigdog said: *Sigh* I am getting tired of a pointless argument and this is way off topic, but here it goes. The BB coach at Central was making 53k (salaries and stipend) at Ozen in 2012. Assuming a modest increase, (Although BISD went through a salary freeze a couple of years ago) He is probably making around 60k at Central. If English has 20 years service( at least) as a teacher and even a modest stipend he is making more. Saveat was making 62k. Either way even if its a little less, English is still making around what BISD is paying. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I don't believe that It's not as 'off topic' as you claim. I read numerous posts in this thread stating that it would be good for coach E to 'get a bump' (in pay) as he 'deserves' if Monte gets both titles. I think the remarks were to the effect of him having a master's degree. Not sure how much (if any) he receives for that accomplishment, but a reason to obtain such a degree (in education) is in hopes of an administrative type job. The AD is a type of admin job, especially based on the pay scale. A reliable source tells me he's not receiving $7.5k/year as a stipend. That same source also confirmed that he IS the lowest paid coach in 22-5A for certain. I'm being vocal about this bc I want coach E to stick around a bit longer for my youngest boy. I want him to have the same opportunities as did my oldest son. BMTSoulja1 and NeDeRlAnD b-DoG fAn 2
team first Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, bigdog said: *Sigh* I am getting tired of a pointless argument and this is way off topic, but here it goes. The BB coach at Central was making 53k (salaries and stipend) at Ozen in 2012. Assuming a modest increase, (Although BISD went through a salary freeze a couple of years ago) He is probably making around 60k at Central. If English has 20 years service( at least) as a teacher and even a modest stipend he is making more. Saveat was making 62k. Either way even if its a little less, English is still making around what BISD is paying. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up pointless is rt, English stipend is 3200 bmt head coaches stipend 7000 asst coach 5000 jv 3500 please quit sigh and wowing, and take a coach pay 101 sigh wow
Brubaker Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Honest Abe said: I don't believe that It's not as 'off topic' as you claim. I read numerous posts in this thread stating that it would be good for coach E to 'get a bump' (in pay) as he 'deserves' if Monte gets both titles. I think the remarks were to the effect of him having a master's degree. Not sure how much (if any) he receives for that accomplishment, but a reason to obtain such a degree (in education) is in hopes of an administrative type job. The AD is a type of admin job, especially based on the pay scale. A reliable source tells me he's not receiving $7.5k/year as a stipend. That same source also confirmed that he IS the lowest paid coach in 22-5A for certain. I'm being vocal about this bc I want coach E to stick around a bit longer for my youngest boy. I want him to have the same opportunities as did my oldest son. Pay that man his money.... if he is the lowest paid, thats ridiculous. I do think he'll have more freedom with Barrow at the helm. team first and Honest Abe 2
Honest Abe Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, Brubaker said: Pay that man his money.... if he is the lowest paid, thats ridiculous. I do think he'll have more freedom with Barrow at the helm. I agree with both.
team first Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 Nederland coaches stipends r on line, so it's easy to check out.
Bigdog Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, team first said: pointless is rt, English stipend is 3200 bmt head coaches stipend 7000 asst coach 5000 jv 3500 please quit sigh and wowing, and take a coach pay 101 sigh wow BMT coaches only get paid $7500 dollars a year? How do they pay their bills? Lol. i like how you changed it to only the stipend when I gave you the numbers to prove you wrong, especially when you said nothing about it until it was your only argument. You really think any coach is depending on thier stipend to feed their families? I'm sure they are glad to have it but that's not what pays the bills.
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