2017 Houston Texans

[Hook'em]

4 hours ago, ECBucFan said:

Fer sure.

Savage, meanwhile, was absolutely PATHETIC. Savage played a quarter. Went 9 of 11, for 82% completion ratio. (Watson was 15 for 25, for 60%).

Savage needs to be burned in effigy outside NRG Stadium, unless the fan base can abduct him and burn him to death in person. Time to rid ourselves once and for all of the pathetic no good bum Tom Savage.  

     

I'm speaking in reference to the future. It's Savage's job until he loses it or Watson earns it which I completely agree with. If you think long term we have a better chance of winning with Savage over Watson then you're crazy. 

[Guest ECBucFan]

1 hour ago, Hook'em said:

I'm speaking in reference to the future. It's Savage's job until he loses it or Watson earns it which I completely agree with. If you think long term we have a better chance of winning with Savage over Watson then you're crazy. 

What your definition of "the future"? You didn't even mention "the future". If you look, you will see the title of this thread is 2017 Houston Texans.   

Lets face it. ESPN and social media has absolutely FLIPPED over Watson, before he even took a snap. He wins the popularity contest in a landslide over Tom Savage. I see all the over-the-top glowing articles about Watson's 60% completion rate, while the 82% completion rate of Tom Savage is completely ignored. 

If you think the public and the media is going to be fair to Tom Savage this year, you are crazy. 

 

[Hook'em]

9 hours ago, ECBucFan said:

What your definition of "the future"? You didn't even mention "the future". If you look, you will see the title of this thread is 2017 Houston Texans.   

Lets face it. ESPN and social media has absolutely FLIPPED over Watson, before he even took a snap. He wins the popularity contest in a landslide over Tom Savage. I see all the over-the-top glowing articles about Watson's 60% completion rate, while the 82% completion rate of Tom Savage is completely ignored. 

If you think the public and the media is going to be fair to Tom Savage this year, you are crazy. 

 

You are correct, I never said the future, I also never said now. I don't know whenever he will be ready. It may be week 1 this year, it may be week 15 next year. Tom Savage is being completely ignored because he is essentially a band aid that they can rely on because he has been in the system for a few years and the coaches trust him til Watson is ready. The reason I personally mentioned Watson and not Savage is because even though Savage played well, everyone in the fan base knows that Savage isn't the franchise quarterback that Houston has needed to get to the next level. Maybe I'm looking ahead or maybe I'm completely wrong, but for my money, Watson has all the stuff you can't coach and that's what separates the 2. 

[Guest ECBucFan]

At most Savage has had "spot duty" only, appearing in just 3 or 4 games. Who can say what Savages upside potential is? The "band aid" had over 80% completion rate, and was ignored. Had Watson had gone 9 for 11, he would be supplanting Tom Brady for the GOAT in the medias eyes.

I fell bad for Savage, He wont be give credit no matter what he does. Watson is already the Texan SuperStar without ever having to earn anything. Thas how popularity contests work.  

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[Guest ECBucFan]

Monday night I am in Wyethville VA. Early tomorrow I am driving to the Texans camp in West Virgina. I will see a dual Texans - Patriots practice from 10 til 2. Will get a personal look. 

[Hook'em]

38 minutes ago, ECBucFan said:

Monday night I am in Wyethville VA. Early tomorrow I am driving to the Texans camp in West Virgina. I will see a dual Texans - Patriots practice from 10 til 2. Will get a personal look. 

Nice, I have never been but have heard the Greenbrier is an awesome resort!

[Guest ECBucFan]

Yes we really wanted to tour the Greenbriar bunker but its sold out that day for a private event. So we will just walk around the hotel and see as much as we can.  

[Guest ECBucFan]

Watched 2.5 hours. Left early due to rain. Eating lunch at the Greenbriar. Will share some thoughts later...

[Guest ECBucFan]

Watt and Hopkins were impressive today. Clowney and Cushing did not participate. Reader can be a beast in the middle if he will focus! Tom Savage pssses were accurate. Watson has wheels but is still learning the offense. Patriots looked well oiled.    

Left a bit early and had a good ( but expensive ) lunch.  The Greenbriar gave all fans a voucher for a $5 "free spin" in their casino. I won 50 bucks, LOL.  

[Guest ECBucFan]

Well, lets see.

Savage, after the Patriots game: 8-of-9, 98 yards 1 TD, near perfect QBR of 149.1.

Watson:  3-of-10, 102 yards. (63 on a short pass to a RB who broke away) 69.6 QBR. 

Savage has now QB'ed five drives. He is 17-of-20 for 167 yards, 1 TD. 

 

Media + most fans = TOTAL SILENCE. 

 

 

 

[Guest ECBucFan]

An excerpt from SB Nation, after the Saints game:

What we could determine, however, was that Deshaun Watson is nowhere near ready to start in the NFL. His passes were erratic (52% completions), his decisions were even worse (one interception, and nearly two more in the second quarter alone), and other than quick rhythm throws underneath he really struggled to move the ball down the field. Tom Savage certainly did not light up the scoreboard himself, but at the very least he looked far more comfortable running the offense than Watson.

After tonight, it is clear that Savage is the only quarterback on this roster worth starting…for now

Watson: 11 for 21, 1 pick , 2 sacks (-12), 48.9 QBR

Savage, 10 for 16, 74.7 QBR

For preseason:

Watson: 14 for 31

Savage: 27 of 36 

 

[BS Wildcats]

After one quarter, Texans not looking good.

[BS Wildcats]

Is this the best O'Brien could come up with?  This is just flat out pathetic.  Should be Watson time in the 2nd half!!

[AggiesAreWe]

I would at least like to see if Watson could get sacked.

[bullets13]

Watson looked better than savage, but still needed a lot of help from the refs to get that drive into the endzone 

[baddog]

Everybody talking offense here, and they did score but 7, but the Texans strong suit is their defense. If I were a fan, I would worry more about that. I told a co-worker/Texans fan that the Jags are the team to beat in their division this year. He said Bortles was a bum. I said the Jags defense was going to be good. Hard to be exact after only one game.

[BS Wildcats]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

Everybody talking offense here, and they did score but 7, but the Texans strong suit is their defense. If I were a fan, I would worry more about that. I told a co-worker/Texans fan that the Jags are the team to beat in their division this year. He said Bortles was a bum. I said the Jags defense was going to be good. Hard to be exact after only one game.

Spot on.  Crenel needs to get back in there as defensive coordinator.  And, O'Brien dang sure is not an offensive coordinator.  I did not watch the 2nd half, but I was wondering how many more drops did Hopkins have in the half?

[PhatMack19]

[Hook'em]

Rough start to the season. Sadly, I didn't see much to be excited about as a fan but it is early in the season, hopefully they can get Duane Brown back to help the o-line, and hopefully they can get healthy. I do think the hangover from the storm and all the stress that came with it played a part in their struggles, but I am a no excuses type person so they just need to be better or it could be a long season. I am excited to see what Watson can do as a starter if he does start on Thursday, but I also think it is unfair to place all of the blame on Savage for his struggles. The guy had no help from the line, the running game was stagnant, and the recieving corps is depleted due to injury. Hate to say it but if I have to make a prediction based on the game, the texans looked like a 4-12 or 5-11 caliber team at best.

[Guest ECBucFan]

Savage was sacked 6 TIMES in a half. That would have been a mind boggling 12 times over a full game. That is even worse than what David Carr went through in the Texans first year. Savage had zero chance to do anything. 

The whole team stunk to high heaven. Lots of people blaming the coach today. Personally, I think Rick Smith is the root of all the Texans problems. If you saw the body language of Smith and B. OB  on draft day, you could see this franchise had problems lying ahead. 

 

[AggiesAreWe]

 

 

[BS Wildcats]

11 hours ago, ECBucFan said:

Savage was sacked 6 TIMES in a half. That would have been a mind boggling 12 times over a full game. That is even worse than what David Carr went through in the Texans first year. Savage had zero chance to do anything. 

The whole team stunk to high heaven. Lots of people blaming the coach today. Personally, I think Rick Smith is the root of all the Texans problems. If you saw the body language of Smith and B. OB  on draft day, you could see this franchise had problems lying ahead. 

 

You said it, Rick Smith.  I don't know what he has on McNair, but it must be good.  He is flat out terrible!

[AggiesAreWe]

Texans middle linebacker Brian Cushing has been suspended by the NFL for 10 games for violating the league's performance-enhancing drug policy

[BS Wildcats]

3 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Texans middle linebacker Brian Cushing has been suspended by the NFL for 10 games for violating the league's performance-enhancing drug policy

Time for the Texans to cut him.  He has been nothing but injured since his first failed test.  What an idiot!!

[Hook'em]

4 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Texans middle linebacker Brian Cushing has been suspended by the NFL for 10 games for violating the league's performance-enhancing drug policy

Time to see what the rookie LB Cunningham is all about.