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2 minutes ago, westend1 said:

president?   So you blame Trump personally for the kid killed in Yemen?

That is a very evasive answer and you know it. It is obvious that Obama had final say in the rules of engagement that were used in Afghanistan. To argue otherwise is stupid. 

The real debate is whether these rules resulted in the deaths of these Americans in this instance. I would tend to believe that if Bush's rules were in place, the situation possibly could have ended differently. That is Monday morning quarterbacking, but I believe we have the best military in the world and if they were allowed to fight, they would have most likely not lost that chopper.

 

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3 minutes ago, texanabroad said:

That is a very evasive answer and you know it. It is obvious that Obama had final say in the rules of engagement that were used in Afghanistan. To argue otherwise is stupid. 

The real debate is whether these rules resulted in the deaths of these Americans in this instance. I would tend to believe that if Bush's rules were in place, the situation possibly could have ended differently. That is Monday morning quarterbacking, but I believe we have the best military in the world and if they were allowed to fight, they would have most likely not lost that chopper.

 

But the truth is, you really don't know anything at all.  You don't know what the rules of engagement were.  You don't know if they were followed.  You don't know if they were properly related to the crews.   Bottom line, if anybody was at fault, if this could have been prevented, which is a big assumption, you don't know who to blame.   But go ahead with the narrative that you prefer.    But, if you show me somewhere where Obama told the military to let combatants who were a threat to our forces go free, I'll be happy to look at it.

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3 minutes ago, westend1 said:

But the truth is, you really don't know anything at all.  You don't know what the rules of engagement were.  You don't know if they were followed.  You don't know if they were properly related to the crews.   Bottom line, if anybody was at fault, if this could have been prevented, which is a big assumption, you don't know who to blame.   But go ahead with the narrative that you prefer.    But, if you show me somewhere where Obama told the military to let combatants who were a threat to our forces go free, I'll be happy to look at it.

I know what the rules of engagement were and according to the article, forces were told not to fire. According to the rules of engagement quoted in the article, the commanders were in the right telling them not to fire. Now, if this had been during the Bush era, the commanding officers would have told them to fire based on those rules of engagement  The rules of engagement enacted by the Obama administration led to this decision. I don't think it is a far stretch to say that.

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10 minutes ago, texanabroad said:

I know what the rules of engagement were and according to the article, forces were told not to fire. According to the rules of engagement quoted in the article, the commanders were in the right telling them not to fire. Now, if this had been during the Bush era, the commanding officers would have told them to fire based on those rules of engagement  The rules of engagement enacted by the Obama administration led to this decision. I don't think it is a far stretch to say that.

It's not...you can't let an idiot pacifist run the military...bad things happen, obama proved that.

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