Trump vs obama...

[Reagan]

My side here, and throughout America, didn't like obama because he was Socialist.  People here, and throughout American don't like Trump because he's a Capitalist.  But, this begs the question:  which one made America great, Capitalism or Socialism?

[westend1]

4 hours ago, Reagan said:

My side here, and throughout America, didn't like obama because he was Socialist.  People here, and throughout American don't like Trump because he's a Capitalist.  But, this begs the question:  which one made America great, Capitalism or Socialism?

uhhhh...that's not why Trump is so unpopular

[baddog]

2 minutes ago, westend1 said:

uhhhh...that's not why Trump is so unpopular

Really, it's probably for some of the reasons those pollsters throw out there. You know, the same ones who said Hillary would win by a LANDSLIDE.

Trump is unpopular because he is FOR America, he is not p.c. (which I love), he likes oil companies and big business, is attempting to erase big government's stranglehold, practically everything the left doesn't believe in.

[westend1]

33 minutes ago, baddog said:

Really, it's probably for some of the reasons those pollsters throw out there. You know, the same ones who said Hillary would win by a LANDSLIDE.

Trump is unpopular because he is FOR America, he is not p.c. (which I love), he likes oil companies and big business, is attempting to erase big government's stranglehold, practically everything the left doesn't believe in.

Golf, the wall, jail Hillary, repeal Obamacare,  wiretapping, declare China money manipulators,  and the weakest growth in three years.  This could have something to do with it

[Englebert]

1 hour ago, westend1 said:

uhhhh...that's not why Trump is so unpopular

He is unpopular with the Left for the simple fact he ran under the Republican ticket. You can't say the ones on the Left don't like him because he is not P.C., because many on the Left are just as crude and obnoxious, even more so, than him, but the Left doesn't demonize those. 

Some on the Right don't like him because he doesn't espouse many Republican viewpoints, and he is crude. Many like him for these same very reasons.

[Englebert]

34 minutes ago, westend1 said:

Golf, the wall, jail Hillary, repeal Obamacare,  wiretapping, declare China money manipulators,  and the weakest growth in three years.  This could have something to do with it

This is how I think many people feel:

Golf - don't care.

The Wall - Build it. It's not a complete solution but is definitely a step in the right direction to secure our borders

Jail Hillary - Please hold her accountable

Repeal Obamacare - He better do it, don't really care about replace

Wiretapping - evidence suggests he was correct

Declare China money manipulators - 90% of the people don't have the faintest idea what that means

Weakest growth in three years - how about weakest growth in 8 years.

 

This is how I think the Liberals feel:

Golf - He is a lazy hypocrite that only cares about a good time while screwing the American people. But it was okay when Obama played golf.

The Wall - That's just racist.

Jail Hillary - Hillary was railroaded by the Press. She had every right to have a hidden server to hide her emails. Only Republicans have something to hide anyways.

Repeal Obamacare - Even though Obamacare is a disaster that will end up costing the taxpayer trillions, we should keep it because it has Obama's name on it. And besides, so many poor people are being helped...to hell with the middle class people that now can't afford it.

Wiretapping - Trump is an idiot and no way Obama was spying on him. And even if he was, Obama was the president and is above the law. He was probably only trying to protect us. But Trump should be impeached...for well, uh, uh, he should be impeached.

Declare China money manipulators - 90% of the people don't have the faintest idea what that means

Weakest growth in three years - FAKE NEWS.

[stevenash]

The economic forecasters to whom I listen state the following:

The economy expanded at a sluggish 0.7% qoq saar rate in 1Q. While this was clearly a weak showing, it was fairly consistent with expectations given the pattern over the past several years of depressed 1Q growth. This reflects "residual seasonality" where the BEA struggles to appropriately seasonally adjust the data at the start of the year, thereby redistributing growth from 1Q to 2Q/3Q. Within the components, there was particular weakness in consumer spending, government spending and inventories which was offset by impressive growth in both nonresidential and residential investment. We think the momentum in investment should lend itself to further growth in 2Q which will be coupled with a recovery in consumption, prompting a solid performance for the quarter.

 

On the upside, investment was quite robust with nonresidential structures investment up 22.1% and equipment up 9.1%, which is a decisive turn higher given the weak trajectory over the past several quarters. Residential investment was also strong, increasing 13.7% given the solid rise in housing starts and sales to start the year. But warm weather could have pulled forward housing activity from the spring months.

Bottom line: the guts within the GDP report were stronger than the headline implies, likely setting up for stronger growth into 2Q and 3Q. This leaves us comfortable with our forecast of low-2% average growth this year, accelerating from 1.6% in 2016.

[BLUEDOVE3]

7 hours ago, baddog said:

Really, it's probably for some of the reasons those pollsters throw out there. You know, the same ones who said Hillary would win by a LANDSLIDE.

Trump is unpopular because he is FOR America, he is not p.c. (which I love), he likes oil companies and big business, is attempting to erase big government's stranglehold, practically everything the left doesn't believe in.

Trump is lost. In over his head.

[BLUEDOVE3]

4 hours ago, stevenash said:

The economic forecasters to whom I listen state the following:

The economy expanded at a sluggish 0.7% qoq saar rate in 1Q. While this was clearly a weak showing, it was fairly consistent with expectations given the pattern over the past several years of depressed 1Q growth. This reflects "residual seasonality" where the BEA struggles to appropriately seasonally adjust the data at the start of the year, thereby redistributing growth from 1Q to 2Q/3Q. Within the components, there was particular weakness in consumer spending, government spending and inventories which was offset by impressive growth in both nonresidential and residential investment. We think the momentum in investment should lend itself to further growth in 2Q which will be coupled with a recovery in consumption, prompting a solid performance for the quarter.

 

On the upside, investment was quite robust with nonresidential structures investment up 22.1% and equipment up 9.1%, which is a decisive turn higher given the weak trajectory over the past several quarters. Residential investment was also strong, increasing 13.7% given the solid rise in housing starts and sales to start the year. But warm weather could have pulled forward housing activity from the spring months.

Bottom line: the guts within the GDP report were stronger than the headline implies, likely setting up for stronger growth into 2Q and 3Q. This leaves us comfortable with our forecast of low-2% average growth this year, accelerating from 1.6% in 2016.

rom Rod Serling's Twilight Zone

          There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call ... The Twilight Zone.

[baddog]

5 minutes ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

Trump is lost. In over his head.

Great comment. I've waited all day for that brilliant deduction.

[stevenash]

16 minutes ago, BLUEDOVE3 said:

rom Rod Serling's Twilight Zone

          There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call ... The Twilight Zone.

Sorry Dove- Nothing twilight zone about it- it is the truth

[baddog]

10 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Sorry Dove- Nothing twilight zone about it- it is the truth

At least he went to Serling's Twilight Zone instead of the 80's version.

[PhatMack19]

Interesting read.  Obama was going to marry a white lady, but politics got in the way.  

 

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