West Hardin Div II SQT

[PlayActionPass]

Any idea who has registered?

[PlayActionPass]

Is there a list of teams yet?

[Bill Dauterive]

28 minutes ago, PlayActionPass said:

Is there a list of teams yet?

Yes......There is

[PlayActionPass]

23 minutes ago, Bill Dauterive said:

Yes......There is

Good Bill

[RETIREDFAN1]

WEST HARDIN 7on7 SQT

Pool A:

West Hardin Oilers

Warren Warriors

Deweyville Pirates

Tarkington Longhorns

 

Pool B:

Liberty Panthers

Kountze Lions

Diboll Lumberjacks

Hamshire-Fannett Longhorns

 

9:00 am

Warriors vs. Oilers (105 side of the field)

Panthers vs. Lions (Scoreboard side of the field

 

10:00 am

T. Longhorns vs. Pirates (105 side of the field)

Lumberjacks vs. HF Longhorns (Scoreboard side of the field)

 

11:00 am

Pirates vs. Oilers (105 side of the field)

Panthers vs. Lumberjacks  (Scoreboard side of the field)

 

12:00

Warriors vs. T. Longhorns (105 side of the field)

HF Longhorns vs. Lions (Scoreboard side of the field)

 

1:00

Oilers vs. T. Longhorns (105 side of the field)

Lions vs. Lumberjacks (Scoreboard side of the field)

 

2:00

Pirates vs. Warriors (105 side of the field)

HF Longhorns vs. Panthers (Scoreboard side of the field)

 

 

3:30

Winner of Pool B vs. Winner of Pool A (105 side of the field)

 

 

[AggiesAreWe]

Dates?

[RETIREDFAN1]

Saturday.......May 20......lol...... I guess that got erased.....

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[RETIREDFAN1]

Liberty and Deweyville advance to state.......

 

[AshlyHasBeen]

Pool A
West Hardin 19 Warren 12 F
Deweyville 34 Tarkington 22 F
Deweyville 20 West Hardin 6 F
Tarkington 34 Warren 21 F
Tarkington 27 West Hardin 15 F
Deweyville 32 Warren 19

Pool B
Liberty 26 Kountze 13 F
Diboll 28 Hamshire-Fannett 14 F
Liberty 38 Diboll 36 F
Hamshire-Fannett 33 Kountze 19 F
Diboll 30 Kountze 16 F
Liberty 20 Hamshire-Fannett 13 F

CHAMPIONSHIP
Liberty 52 Deweyville 6 F

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[oldschool2]

Going to state in 7 on 7 means that...wait...never mind.  It doesn't mean anything.  Big difference when you add a few people and everybody has pads and helmets on.

[aTmfan06]

23 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

Going to state in 7 on 7 means that...wait...never mind.  It doesn't mean anything.  Big difference when you add a few people and everybody has pads and helmets on.

Exactly. Hell a few years back Kountze almost won state in 7 on 7. Still 4th place in district and bi district round loss.

[90yshallow]

7-on-7 competitions give teams the potential to develop a 2 min offense which some Wing-T/Run Oriented offenses don't spend a lot of time on.  It keeps teams from having to run no-huddle Scat Rt over and over again.  There is a reason successful coach practice pass skell in practice every day.  Its a practice tool.

[oldschool2]

14 minutes ago, 90yshallow said:

7-on-7 competitions give teams the potential to develop a 2 min offense which some Wing-T/Run Oriented offenses don't spend a lot of time on.  It keeps teams from having to run no-huddle Scat Rt over and over again.  There is a reason successful coach practice pass skell in practice every day.  Its a practice tool.

If a team is a Wing-T/Run Oriented offense then they aren't going to all of the sudden start passing during the season anyway.

And like I said...7 on 7 will not prepare you for when people can actually tackle.  Or when you have to make quick decisions on a pass because you're depending on 5 lineman to block.  "Practicing" in a situation when you can sit back and quarterback...relaxed...not worried about being blind sided by a blitzing linebacker is a lot different than actually taking a snap and then spending the next 3-4 seconds running for your life just hoping to get rid of the ball before getting a concussion. 

7 on 7 is pointless.  It's really no different than playing "2 below" in the back yard with 8 neighbor kids.

[Bill Dauterive]

22 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

If a team is a Wing-T/Run Oriented offense then they aren't going to all of the sudden start passing during the season anyway.

And like I said...7 on 7 will not prepare you for when people can actually tackle.  Or when you have to make quick decisions on a pass because you're depending on 5 lineman to block.  "Practicing" in a situation when you can sit back and quarterback...relaxed...not worried about being blind sided by a blitzing linebacker is a lot different than actually taking a snap and then spending the next 3-4 seconds running for your life just hoping to get rid of the ball before getting a concussion. 

7 on 7 is pointless.  It's really no different than playing "2 below" in the back yard with 8 neighbor kids.

Except that you and 8 neighbor kids cannot play 7 on 7.   You would need 13 neighbor kids. That, my friend is the difference.

[dBerrySports]

7-on-7 is not pointless. However, it is not as important as it has suddenly been made to be in the past five years or so. It doesn't always have to be one extreme or another.

Pass skelly is good for QBs/WRs to get used to their passing plays, timing, route running, etc. On the other side, it's good for the LBs/DBs to get used to their drops and/or man coverage technique.

It should not be used to evaluate anything else though (recruiting and the such). But it's fun for the kids too in the offseason and summer.

[oldschool2]

2 hours ago, Bill Dauterive said:

Except that you and 8 neighbor kids cannot play 7 on 7.   You would need 13 neighbor kids. That, my friend is the difference.

Can't even stir the pot in peace anymore.  What kind of world do we live in?.. 

[AshlyHasBeen]

On 5/23/2017 at 1:21 PM, dBerrySports said:

7-on-7 is not pointless. However, it is not as important as it has suddenly been made to be in the past five years or so. It doesn't always have to be one extreme or another.

Pass skelly is good for QBs/WRs to get used to their passing plays, timing, route running, etc. On the other side, it's good for the LBs/DBs to get used to their drops and/or man coverage technique.

It should not be used to evaluate anything else though (recruiting and the such). But it's fun for the kids too in the offseason and summer.

Plus 40 seconds of touch football still gets over 4,000 views in a day because we love our football lol.

[Matthew328]

7on7 isn't pointless depending on how its utilized, if you run your schemes that you run on Friday night then it's of great benefit...if you run an offense/defense to simply try and win 7on7 games then it loses value...you get out what you put in....

In the last 5 years here's the champions in Div. I/Div. II the teams who run their stuff and have won it generally have good fall season's..the teams that win it and don't run their offense..probably don't see much translation to the fall

Division II

2012: Celina (10-3 lost in Regional Semis)

2013: Graham (14-1 lost in state semis)

2014: Graham (12-3 lost in state semis)

2015: Navasota (12-1 lost in Regional Semis)

2016: Kaufman (8-4 lost in area)

 

Division I

2012: Plano (5-6 lost in bi-district)

2013: Southlake Carroll (11-2 lost in regional semis)

2014: Katy Seven Lakes (6-4 missed playoffs)

2015: Austin Westlake (14-2 lost in state title game)

2016: The Woodlands (15-1 lost in state title game)

 

What do Kaufman, Plano and Seven Lakes have in common?? They don't run the same in offense in 7on7 that they do on Friday night...what do the others who all advanced at least three deep have in common?? There are a lot of similarities in what they run on Friday night vs. what they run in 7on7....

[jv_coach]

On 5/23/2017 at 0:08 PM, oldschool2 said:

If a team is a Wing-T/Run Oriented offense then they aren't going to all of the sudden start passing during the season anyway.

And like I said...7 on 7 will not prepare you for when people can actually tackle.  Or when you have to make quick decisions on a pass because you're depending on 5 lineman to block.  "Practicing" in a situation when you can sit back and quarterback...relaxed...not worried about being blind sided by a blitzing linebacker is a lot different than actually taking a snap and then spending the next 3-4 seconds running for your life just hoping to get rid of the ball before getting a concussion. 

7 on 7 is pointless.  It's really no different than playing "2 below" in the back yard with 8 neighbor kids.

7 on 7 is not pointless.