Trump leaks classified information to Russians

[Cougar14.2]

9 minutes ago, jv_coach said:

 

Un-named source? H.R. McMaster was in the meeting with Drump, Tillerson, Lavrov and Kislyak and is the one who went to the NSA, CIA and DNI to let them know what tRump had just done. THE RUSSIANS ARE THE ONES WHO RELAYED WHAT dRUMP LEAKED FROM HIS OWN MOUTH!!!! There was no American media present in the meeting, White House claimed they were tricked into letting the Russian media in. Smh.

[Cougar14.2]

29 minutes ago, jv_coach said:

The foundation used the money to stop the spread of AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa and provide life conserving medication to kids like the one in the picture who may have been born with the disease. You can see from his expression he thinks dRump is full of s*** too though.  

[baddog]

Ask Haiti where their money is. They got 10%. This doesn't trouble some people.

[Cougar14.2]

6 minutes ago, baddog said:

Ask Haiti where their money is. They got 10%. This doesn't trouble some people.

Smh, the corrupt Haitian government was given 10% of the something like $9billion that was donated to Haiti's recovery. What you didn't add in was countries like the US billing our own state department hundreds of millions of dollars for soldiers to hand out water to the people effected by the earthquake. The bulk of the money went to the UN, international aide groups and charges the donor countries levied for their military's involvement. I will say there should have been more vigilance in handing out the private reconstruction contracts though.  

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, Cougar14.2 said:

Un-named source? H.R. McMaster was in the meeting with Drump, Tillerson, Lavrov and Kislyak and is the one who went to the NSA, CIA and DNI to let them know what tRump had just done. THE RUSSIANS ARE THE ONES WHO RELAYED WHAT dRUMP LEAKED FROM HIS OWN MOUTH!!!! There was no American media present in the meeting, White House claimed they were tricked into letting the Russian media in. Smh.

The Washington ComPost says they made the report from an "Un-Named" source.  Yes, we say McMaster was there and he said there is nothing to the story.  So -- who are you gonna believe?

[Reagan]

From the article:  "Trump's National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster said Monday, "At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly."   So, again to our liberal friends, who you gonna believe an un-named source or someone who was ACTUALLY there??

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[Cougar14.2]

6 minutes ago, Reagan said:

From the article:  "Trump's National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster said Monday, "At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly."   So, again to our liberal friends, who you gonna believe an un-named source or someone who was ACTUALLY there??

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That's lawyer speak so it can be defended at a later time. What he doesn't implicitly state is that "President Trump did not disclose classified information to the Russians". That should have been the statement. Not "we didn't tell them how we got the information". Like I've already said, if it was no big deal H.R. McMaster would not have left directly out of the meeting and informed three intelligence agencies what the president had just told a foreign adversary. Since the president can declassify information anything that comes out of his mouth is legal. What's illegal is revealing a classified source which is what McMaster saying didn't happen. Doesn't matter if he gave up the "source" of the information though, he gave them the information itself. That information can be traced back to the "source", which is believed to be in Syria, and "source" will most likely be compromised or executed due to the president's mouth. Not only that, what allies will trust us with their intel. from now on when you have president who arbitrarily gives it out to adversaries?

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, Cougar14.2 said:

That's lawyer speak so it can be defended at a later time. What he doesn't implicitly state is that "President Trump did not disclose classified information to the Russians". That should have been the statement. Not "we didn't tell them how we got the information". Like I've already said, if it was no big deal H.R. McMaster would not have left directly out of the meeting and informed three intelligence agencies what the president had just told a foreign adversary. Since the president can declassify information anything that comes out of his mouth is legal. What's illegal is revealing a classified source which is what McMaster saying didn't happen. Doesn't matter if he gave up the "source" of the information though, he gave them the information itself. That information can be traced back to the "source", which is believed to be in Syria, and "source" will most likely be compromised or executed due to the president's mouth. Not only that, what allies will trust us with their intel. from now on when you have president who arbitrarily gives it out to adversaries?

Are you a lawyer?

[BS Wildcats]

1 hour ago, Cougar14.2 said:

That's lawyer speak so it can be defended at a later time. What he doesn't implicitly state is that "President Trump did not disclose classified information to the Russians". That should have been the statement. Not "we didn't tell them how we got the information". Like I've already said, if it was no big deal H.R. McMaster would not have left directly out of the meeting and informed three intelligence agencies what the president had just told a foreign adversary. Since the president can declassify information anything that comes out of his mouth is legal. What's illegal is revealing a classified source which is what McMaster saying didn't happen. Doesn't matter if he gave up the "source" of the information though, he gave them the information itself. That information can be traced back to the "source", which is believed to be in Syria, and "source" will most likely be compromised or executed due to the president's mouth. Not only that, what allies will trust us with their intel. from now on when you have president who arbitrarily gives it out to adversaries?

How are you so certain about what was said?  You have no clue.  Just because the Washington Post said so, doesn't mean it's true.

[TxHoops]

Cougar is almost certainly correct.  Based on the careful wording of McMaster's statement, rest assured it was edited, if not prepared by Trump's legal team.  Which is not unusual.  Given the scope of these allegations, almost anyone in that position would invoke legal advice.  

As to the Washington Post's report, where some of you are suspicious of "anonymous" or "unnamed" sources, what you need to know is what that means in practice.  The Post is an "old school" newspaper with strict reporting guidelines.  If a source refuses to go on record, their information must be confirmed by another independent source for the story to go to press.  So what this means is at least 2 people confirmed the same information circulated. 

Does that mean these sources are correct or incapable of lying for whatever reason?  Of course not.  But to think he Post would fabricate this story is just unrealistic at best.   

[TxHoops]

Trump's biggest problem is, and will continue to be he can't keep his big mouth shut.  I don't know how ANYONE would find this hard to believe.  He is undoubtedly a world class narcissist (not that he's the first to hold that office).  But he simply seems to be someone who is almost impossible to temper.  

[BS Wildcats]

16 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

 

[BS Wildcats]

18 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Trump's biggest problem is, and will continue to be he can't keep his big mouth shut.  I don't know how ANYONE would find this hard to believe.  He is undoubtedly a world class narcissist (not that he's the first to hold that office).  But he simply seems to be someone who is almost impossible to temper.  

True

[westend1]

LOL    Hillary had 8 classified emails on a private server.   They werent classified when she put them on there, but ok.   No evidence anybody saw them but the chant is "put her in jail".  Now, Trump turns over classified info to Russia.  The response seems to be, so what?

[baddog]

6 minutes ago, westend1 said:

LOL    Hillary had 8 classified emails on a private server.   They werent classified when she put them on there, but ok.   No evidence anybody saw them but the chant is "put her in jail".  Now, Trump turns over classified info to Russia.  The response seems to be, so what?

Yeah, that's why she deleted over 30,000. So what, right?

[westend1]

2 minutes ago, baddog said:

Yeah, that's why she deleted over 30,000. So what, right?

Any evidence she gave it to Russia?,  Of course not.   Tell me.  Who saw any of it?

[texanabroad]

I'm just getting myself up to speed on this story, but I have a couple of thoughts. If true- 1. It isn't illegal for Trump to do this. 2. He probably shouldn't have. 3. The previous administration routinely leaked classified intel to other countries. 4. Both parties are full of lars and cheats. 

 

 

[westend1]

20 minutes ago, texanabroad said:

I'm just getting myself up to speed on this story, but I have a couple of thoughts. If true- 1. It isn't illegal for Trump to do this. 2. He probably shouldn't have. 3. The previous administration routinely leaked classified intel to other countries. 4. Both parties are full of lars and cheats. 

 

 

That's cool.  Where do you get item 3?   I seriously haven't seen that.

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[baddog]

37 minutes ago, westend1 said:

Any evidence she gave it to Russia?,  Of course not.   Tell me.  Who saw any of it?

Oh, the innocent until proven guilty theory. Sure would be nice if you extended that to Trump.

The whistleblower murder is going to uncover quite a bit, once they get around a police department that was told to back off.

[westend1]

12 minutes ago, baddog said:

Oh, the innocent until proven guilty theory. Sure would be nice if you extended that to Trump.

The whistleblower murder is going to uncover quite a bit, once they get around a police department that was told to back off.

crickets

[texanabroad]

43 minutes ago, westend1 said:

That's cool.  Where do you get item 3?   I seriously haven't seen that.

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Obama routinely shared classified info with other countries throughout his tenure. Most times in an effort against global terrorism. Biden outed Seal Team Six after the Bin Laden takedown. Iran was leaked info on an Israeli cyberattack on its nuclear facilities. Obama had to pardon a top general over this classified leak. These things do happen. It's just that Trump is under a totally different microscope than previous administrations. Some of it is his own doing, some is partisan politics. 

[westend1]

4 minutes ago, texanabroad said:

Obama routinely shared classified info with other countries throughout his tenure. Most times in an effort against global terrorism. Biden outed Seal Team Six after the Bin Laden takedown. Iran was leaked info on an Israeli cyberattack on its nuclear facilities. Obama had to pardon a top general over this classified leak. These things do happen. It's just that Trump is under a totally different microscope than previous administrations. Some of it is his own doing, some is partisan politics. 

links?

[texanabroad]

2 minutes ago, westend1 said:

links?

Look, you are quite capable of googling this info. It only takes a minute. But here you go anyway.

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[jv_coach]

9 hours ago, Cougar14.2 said:

Once again you must do better.  you must see that the Obamanation abomination is over and that the wicked witch of the west was rejected for the succubus she is.  Drump bought a mansion in Palm Beach, Florida for $41million. Four years later he sold it to a Russian oligarch, who had once been arrested on charges he hired an assassin, for $100million if you include the brokerage fees

So did Trump make this 41 million by working in the government? I hear you leftist cry foul over buisness men making millions, but are really silent when a government worker is making millions without producing anything.

The Russian oligarch never lived in the house and tore it down. We now know FinCen is investigating the Russian oligarch and tRump's organization for money laundering as is often the case for Russian officials to move their stolen money out of the country. You don't have to do 6 degrees of separation with Drump, he does all the dumb s*** himself.

So explain how after one sells a house they are responsible for what the buyer does with the house or how that makes them money launders?

By the way. We sell weapons to any and everybody who doesn't blatantly state they want to kill us like ISIS, Hezbollah, AQAP and the Muslim Brotherhood. What you should be asking is why the White House is taking Putin's position on arming Ukrainian rebels to defend themselves against the Russian invasion.  I have been asking the Crimea  question since Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, and as far as these JV teams our policies have been bad for a while. 

[baddog]

What will the left come up with now? Let me guess. The records have been doctored.

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