Separation of Church and State?

[5GallonBucket]

On ‎5‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 9:06 AM, nappyroots said:

Don't understand why the republicans think they are the party of christianity when they do many unchristian like things. especialy the current President. Having Jeff Sessions and Steve Bannon in the cabinet is one example. 

They are not against Christianity unlike the other party.  Everybody is a sinner.  some recognize that and some don't.

[PAMFAM10]

How can one be so holy and be pro life but support the death penalty..., 

Im as prolife as it gets im against both.

[Englebert]

17 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

How can one be so holy and be pro life but support the death penalty..., 

Im as prolife as it gets im against both.

One can be for death as a punishment for a heinous crime committed. The unborn child has not been found guilty of any such act but receives the same sentence. There is no inconsistency or hypocrisy in that line of thinking. One can fully support the death penalty as a punishment without supporting the death penalty for someone that has never committed a crime.

[PAMFAM10]

27 minutes ago, Englebert said:

One can be for death as a punishment for a heinous crime committed. The unborn child has not been found guilty of any such act but receives the same sentence. There is no inconsistency or hypocrisy in that line of thinking. One can fully support the death penalty as a punishment without supporting the death penalty for someone that has never committed a crime.

Its hypocritical to claim abortion is wrong under Christian values but support murder. the Bible is pretty clear on Thou Shall not kill. Vengeance is mine.

[jv_coach]

On 5/21/2017 at 9:06 AM, nappyroots said:

Don't understand why the republicans think they are the party of christianity when they do many unchristian like things. especialy the current President. Having Jeff Sessions and Steve Bannon in the cabinet is one example. 

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[LumRaiderFan]

19 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Its hypocritical to claim abortion is wrong under Christian values but support murder. the Bible is pretty clear on Thou Shall not kill. Vengeance is mine.

That's not what the Bible says...not the original text, anyway.

In the Hebrew, it's interpreted as "Thou shalt not take an innocent life".

Abortion is definitely taking an innocent life.  The death penalty for a horrendous crime is not...and it's not vengeance, it's justice.

[baddog]

Also, one can seek revenge without killing. Society's vengeance on criminals is usually jail time. Does this mean we should release all prisoners? Of course not. This is where the Bible gets misinterpreted. Sin does not equate with criminal acts.

[PAMFAM10]

11 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

That's not what the Bible says...not the original text, anyway.

In the Hebrew, it's interpreted as "Thou shalt not take an innocent life".

Abortion is definitely taking an innocent life.  The death penalty for a horrendous crime is not...and it's not vengeance, it's justice.

Really man you trying to change the commandments.

 

[PAMFAM10]

12 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

That's not what the Bible says...not the original text, anyway.

In the Hebrew, it's interpreted as "Thou shalt not take an innocent life".

Abortion is definitely taking an innocent life.  The death penalty for a horrendous crime is not...and it's not vengeance, it's justice.

Who decided murder is justice.

Do you trurly believe that's God will.

[stevenash]

4 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Who decided murder is justice.

Do you trurly believe that's God will.

Do you believe that Transgenders are Gods will?  Do you  believe that gay marriage is God's will?

[PAMFAM10]

5 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Do you believe that Transgenders are Gods will?  Do you  believe that gay marriage is God's will?

I don't but I will not push my beliefs on others. 

[stevenash]

52 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

I don't but I will not push my beliefs on others. 

And you don't believe that the Dems do precisely that?

[5GallonBucket]

1 hour ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Its hypocritical to claim abortion is wrong under Christian values but support murder. the Bible is pretty clear on Thou Shall not kill. Vengeance is mine.

you may wanna read your bible again

[Tigers2010]

On 5/21/2017 at 6:20 AM, Kountzer said:

I am almost apolitical, believe it or not.  I do vote though.  I don't think there is a human solution to this country's problems, much less the world's problems.  So when you ask me if I am democrat or republican...I don't know.  I don't see much good in either.  

I know a lot of christian democrats, scores.  If you travel and visit adventist churches in conservative areas, like the woodlands, there are more republicans.  Most of them are focused on church and bible prophecy and will tell you basically the same thing from the right side of the ledger.

Can't see anybody who supports the murder and mutilation of a breathing baby a Christian. Does that sound crazy to anyone else?

[jv_coach]

1 hour ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Really man you trying to change the commandments.

 

 

If anyone wants to better understand the teachings of scripture click on the link.

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[jv_coach]

1 hour ago, PAMFAM10 said:

I don't but I will not push my beliefs on others. 

Mam, we are on the internet talking politics. We are all pushing our beliefs in one form or fashion on one another.

[PAMFAM10]

34 minutes ago, jv_coach said:

Mam, we are on the internet talking politics. We are all pushing our beliefs in one form or fashion on one another.

Not I

[PAMFAM10]

45 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

you may wanna read your bible again

I'm very up with the Bible scripture debate is nothing new. All one can do is ask good for direction. From my understanding execution is not god will.

[PAMFAM10]

55 minutes ago, stevenash said:

And you don't believe that the Dems do precisely that?

I don't see why you try so hard to paint me as a democrat. I have no affiliation. 

[LumRaiderFan]

3 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Really man you trying to change the commandments.

 

Not at all...there are two separate words in Hebrew that mean kill...one specifically means to "murder".

The Bible is full of examples of God's justice that included killing someone that was guilty.

[BS Wildcats]

3 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said:

I'm very up with the Bible scripture debate is nothing new. All one can do is ask good for direction. From my understanding execution is not god will.

Were there not two men that were executed along side Jesus, the son of God?  If it were not his will, would this have taken place?  Don't believe your argument that this is against God's will is valid.

[PAMFAM10]

2 hours ago, BS Wildcats said:

Were there not two men that were executed along side Jesus, the son of God?  If it were not his will, would this have taken place?  Don't believe your argument that this is against God's will is valid.

Think about that real hard. 

[BS Wildcats]

10 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Think about that real hard. 

?

[westend1]

LOL   Hundreds of religions and these guys all think they picked the right one.   Good luck

[Kountzer]

On 5/20/2017 at 7:54 AM, stevenash said:

Can you tell me exactly who advocates TOTALLY doing away with separation of church and state?

The current Prez, most evangelical leaders and pastors, the roman catholic church for sure, most right wing republicans and quite a few liberal democrats as well.