Tax Cuts

[baddog]

The teet is running dry. Time to ween.....

Trump budget to cut Medicaid, food stamps -- put 'taxpayer first,' officials say

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[Big girl]

This is sad

[77]

the folks that really need help will be able to get it but those that choose to lay idle and be fed when they are fully able to work may have to find a job. Awww thats sad  NOT !

[baddog]

I'm a taxpayer. I'm elated.

[Englebert]

22 minutes ago, Big girl said:

This is sad

What's sad is that you feel the need to comment on a bill you know nothing about. I would be willing to bet the farm that if this was a Democrat proposal you would be praising it's virtues. Regardless, you will comment exactly the way your Liberal gods tell you to comment. Now that is just sad.

[texanabroad]

20 minutes ago, Big girl said:

This is sad

No. Not sad. In my opinion it doesn't go far enough. The government shouldn't be in the entitlement business. I believe that those in need should get help from charities such as the church or other local entities. They have a much better idea of what the needs in a community are.  

[nappyroots]

18 minutes ago, Englebert said:

What's sad is that you feel the need to comment on a bill you know nothing about. I would be willing to bet the farm that if this was a Democrat proposal you would be praising it's virtues. Regardless, you will comment exactly the way your Liberal gods tell you to comment. Now that is just sad.

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I am for helping the working poor and the elderly whom have worked all of their lives and can't afford to live. Not many folks are out to help people that can and should be working (despite what Rush tries to lead us to believe). Many that voted for Trump were so worried about erasing Obama that they didn't realize that Paul Ryan and his friends with tales would be cutting their food stamps, medicare, health care and social security. Whether it be the Republican or Democratic rich that control government we need to start trying to effect their money. Ive been working since I was 12. Live pretty well and don't mind helping people that deserve it. Even when that person on the street ask for help, i try to figure out who is sincere. I usually count the ones that have cigarettes out. Race doesn't matter. Geographic location doesn't matter either. The man above ultimately controls this world. 

 

[PAMFAM10]

35 minutes ago, texanabroad said:

No. Not sad. In my opinion it doesn't go far enough. The government shouldn't be in the entitlement business. I believe that those in need should get help from charities such as the church or other local entities. They have a much better idea of what the needs in a community are.  

That's can work in small communities but not big ones like Houston Dallas etc etc. Welfare is like a addiction you can't expect someone to go cold turkey overnight. You have to wing them off with alternatives. That's the only true solution. Just randomly cutting won't help anything.

[baddog]

I work to raise my family. I also pay taxes. Where it all goes, who knows? No one cares that it was taken from deserving folks, why should I care that it is going where it should have in the first place? Next time you see a panhandler, offer to let him cut your grass for $25. See what happens.

[texanabroad]

14 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

That's can work in small communities but not big ones like Houston Dallas etc etc. Welfare is like a addiction you can't expect someone to go cold turkey overnight. You have to wing them off with alternatives. That's the only true solution. Just randomly cutting won't help anything.

I agree that welfare is an addiction and I agree cold turkey isn't the best way to handle the problem. It should be phased out over a short period of time. I do believe that charities can care for those in need in big cities. Big cities are just a bunch of smaller cities closely packed together. I also like the fact that people could choose which charity to support rather than the government deciding for them. When people choose one that they care about, they are more willing to give more. 

[Englebert]

20 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

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I am for helping the working poor and the elderly whom have worked all of their lives and can't afford to live. Not many folks are out to help people that can and should be working (despite what Rush tries to lead us to believe). Many that voted for Trump were so worried about erasing Obama that they didn't realize that Paul Ryan and his friends with tales would be cutting their food stamps, medicare, health care and social security. Whether it be the Republican or Democratic rich that control government we need to start trying to effect their money. Ive been working since I was 12. Live pretty well and don't mind helping people that deserve it. Even when that person on the street ask for help, i try to figure out who is sincere. I usually count the ones that have cigarettes out. Race doesn't matter. Geographic location doesn't matter either. The man above ultimately controls this world. 

 

I'm not sure why you quoted me for your reply.

And I'm not sure why you think that people on here do not want to help the truly needy. I guess when your Liberal leaders pound that lie into your skull then you capitulate. And it is particularly amusing that you feel you have the ability to analyze the internal thinking of Trump voters. Just because you are easily manipulated by the media doesn't mean all are. And your example is truly revealing as to your lack of understanding of many voters who vehemently did not want Hillary for president. You say you try to figure out who truly deserves help, but then advocate for the Federal government to seize wages from the American worker to re-distribute to the "needy". The Federal government has repeatedly shown (and even admitted by you) that it is terrible at running these types of programs, and yet you advocate for more. If you were sincere in helping the needy you would advocate for more charities who are far and away more adept in identifying who is truly needy.

[nappyroots]

3 hours ago, Englebert said:

I'm not sure why you quoted me for your reply.

And I'm not sure why you think that people on here do not want to help the truly needy. I guess when your Liberal leaders pound that lie into your skull then you capitulate. And it is particularly amusing that you feel you have the ability to analyze the internal thinking of Trump voters. Just because you are easily manipulated by the media doesn't mean all are. And your example is truly revealing as to your lack of understanding of many voters who vehemently did not want Hillary for president. You say you try to figure out who truly deserves help, but then advocate for the Federal government to seize wages from the American worker to re-distribute to the "needy". The Federal government has repeatedly shown (and even admitted by you) that it is terrible at running these types of programs, and yet you advocate for more. If you were sincere in helping the needy you would advocate for more charities who are far and away more adept in identifying who is truly needy.

The federal government has been and will be doing this for a long time. This didn't start in 2008 and won't end in 2017!

[nappyroots]

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One sorry POS

[Englebert]

7 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

The federal government has been and will be doing this for a long time. This didn't start in 2008 and won't end in 2017!

And you still want to increase the size and scale of the Federal government. That is incomprehensible to most.

[nappyroots]

3 minutes ago, Englebert said:

And you still want to increase the size and scale of the Federal government. That is incomprehensible to most.

Never said I wanted to increase government side, maybe we need to put a limit on Grab um personnal spending. mainly all of these golf trips. Maybe the wall money can be spent on drinking water and roads.

[Englebert]

2 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

Never said I wanted to increase government side, maybe we need to put a limit on Grab um personnal spending. mainly all of these golf trips. Maybe the wall money can be spent on drinking water and roads.

You advocate for every government expenditure proposed, and are constantly saying "what has the government done for me". You can deny all you want, but it is easy to deduce your mindset. 

[stevenash]

He still does not understand that, if the government does not remain solvent, those who need help the most wont be able to get it.  Greece and Venezuela are prime examples.    He believes that the government is the "gift that keeps on giving" and doesn't grasp the concept that what the government has is nothing more than what it collects from a portion of the citizenry that supports then entire country.

[Kountzer]

4 hours ago, baddog said:

I work to raise my family. I also pay taxes. Where it all goes, who knows? No one cares that it was taken from deserving folks, why should I care that it is going where it should have in the first place? Next time you see a panhandler, offer to let him cut your grass for $25. See what happens.

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[nappyroots]

4 hours ago, Englebert said:

You advocate for every government expenditure proposed, and are constantly saying "what has the government done for me". You can deny all you want, but it is easy to deduce your mindset. 

I give , I don't and never have collected anything from the government.

[stevenash]

14 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

I give , I don't and never have collected anything from the government.

WIll you ever reach a point when you believe you have given enough or are you willing to give, give, and give as long as your party tells you to?

[BS Wildcats]

Start drug testing those that are of working age, capable to work, but will not work.  Fail the test, no benefits.  That would take care of more than a few of the freeloaders.

[PhatMack19]

59% approve of Trump tax cuts 

 

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[new tobie]

Grab um 

[stevenash]

1 hour ago, new tobie said:

Grab um 

Congrats on another meaningful, deeply analytical comment.

[Englebert]

34 minutes ago, new tobie said:

Grab um 

And yet somehow we are to blame for running off posters. Maybe if we send some examples of this "debate" style to the 3rd graders we can get some new recruits. On second thought, even those are too mature to engage in such nonsense. At least they can share in the entertainment value.