Best Program in SETX? (Golden T)

[biaplayer]

WOS with Newton a close second, but with that being said there are a lot of Quality programs out there that are in playoffs year in and year out. I guess you would have to specify the actual qualifications as to what the criteria is for being the best program. As it sits now it is just opinions lol

[Goblin]

It's a rather unfair question to begin with.   Yes, NO team closer than Harris or Galveston county can claim a winning record against WOS.  WOS has 384 wins since opening in 1977.  Nederland hit win 384 in 1997 after having played since 1925.  I think PNG hit win 384 in 1987.   

But over the eras there were always dominant teams dating back to the start of the UIL in 1909. 

TJ and Beaumont High were superpowers in the 1920's through the 1950's with TJ winning state titles in 1929 and 1944 when only ONE champion was proclaimed in the state.  

Port Neches had several peaks with two state titles in the early 1950's and another spectacular four year run in the 1970's with a title in 1975.  After PNG's run in the early '50s Nederland came along and won a title in 1957.  In fact both Nederland and TJ hosted the state title games at home on the same day that year just miles apart with Nederland beating Sweetwater and TJ losing to Highland Park.

Bridge City won a title in the mid 1960s and then in the '80s we had TJ in the title game again in 1980, West Brook winning in 1982 and French co-champs with Permian in 1984.

in the lower classifications Hull-Daisetta actually held the NATIONAL winning streak record for almost 20 years not losing a game from 1935-1939 before they were surpassed by Abilene. H-D finally got a state title in 1979.

Newton has won 3 and don't forget about Burkeville.  Barbers Hill also won 2 when they were tiny back in the 1970s.

This is just mentioning programs with hardware but with the relative population we're talking about down here compared to DFW, San Antonio and any area within 200 miles of the Rio Grande we've done pretty well consistently for over a century as a community and I take pride in that.

[D3zii]

5 hours ago, Goblin said:

It's a rather unfair question to begin with.   Yes, NO team closer than Harris or Galveston county can claim a winning record against WOS.  WOS has 384 wins since opening in 1977.  Nederland hit win 384 in 1997 after having played since 1925.  I think PNG hit win 384 in 1987.   

But over the eras there were always dominant teams dating back to the start of the UIL in 1909. 

TJ and Beaumont High were superpowers in the 1920's through the 1950's with TJ winning state titles in 1929 and 1944 when only ONE champion was proclaimed in the state.  

Port Neches had several peaks with two state titles in the early 1950's and another spectacular four year run in the 1970's with a title in 1975.  After PNG's run in the early '50s Nederland came along and won a title in 1957.  In fact both Nederland and TJ hosted the state title games at home on the same day that year just miles apart with Nederland beating Sweetwater and TJ losing to Highland Park.

Bridge City won a title in the mid 1960s and then in the '80s we had TJ in the title game again in 1980, West Brook winning in 1982 and French co-champs with Permian in 1984.

in the lower classifications Hull-Daisetta actually held the NATIONAL winning streak record for almost 20 years not losing a game from 1935-1939 before they were surpassed by Abilene. H-D finally got a state title in 1979.

Newton has won 3 and don't forget about Burkeville.  Barbers Hill also won 2 when they were tiny back in the 1970s.

This is just mentioning programs with hardware but with the relative population we're talking about down here compared to DFW, San Antonio and any area within 200 miles of the Rio Grande we've done pretty well consistently for over a century as a community and I take pride in that.

No doubt about it, SETX has some Great/consistent programs..if you ever go out of SETX and even the State,  everyone knows of the SETX/Golden Triangle 

 

Let's not forget,  Beaumont "Football Capital", Texas 

[Old school eagle]

According to Maxpreps Since 2004 Newton has winning records against Bridge City (4-1) Orangefied  (3-2) Silsbee (4-2) and Liberty (2-0).  Couldn't find anything on LCM.  Let's remember our history before making brash comments.

[Tiger33]

1 hour ago, Old school eagle said:

According to Maxpreps Since 2004 Newton has winning records against Bridge City (4-1) Orangefied  (3-2) Silsbee (4-2) and Liberty (2-0).  Couldn't find anything on LCM.  Let's remember our history before making brash comments.

LCM has 11 wins and only 4 loses to Newton

[jimmyw]

9 hours ago, LCM17 said:

 

10 hours ago, Old school eagle said:

According to Maxpreps Since 2004 Newton has winning records against Bridge City (4-1) Orangefied  (3-2) Silsbee (4-2) and Liberty (2-0).  Couldn't find anything on LCM.  Let's remember our history before making brash comments.

LCM has 11 wins and only 4 loses to Newton

 

I do  hope that you realize that  all but 2 of those games were before 1974 and Little Cyprus was not even consolidated with  Mauriceville then.  Think about relying  on the past. Now in the  1960's Little Cyprus had Newton's number but they haven't since becoming LC-M.

[WOSgrad]

51 minutes ago, jimmyw said:

I do  hope that you realize that  all but 2 of those games were before 1974 and Little Cyprus was not even consolidated with  Mauriceville then.  Think about relying  on the past. Now in the  1960's Little Cyprus had Newton's number but they haven't since becoming LC-M.

Very true,  As they have been winning pretty consistently since the early 1970's, it is hard to imagine a time when Newton wasn't winning, but they had that period of time.  In fact, Newton football didn't reach the .500 win percentage mark for its history until 1978.  The 1960s that jimmyw referenced were a period of particular struggle for the Eagles as they went 32-65-2 for a .326 winning percentage.

Even with that, Newton has had a school history that many would be jealous of.

[Tiger33]

1 hour ago, jimmyw said:

I do  hope that you realize that  all but 2 of those games were before 1974 and Little Cyprus was not even consolidated with  Mauriceville then.  Think about relying  on the past. Now in the  1960's Little Cyprus had Newton's number but they haven't since becoming LC-M.

That is very true. Last time we played was in1 985. Im just pointing out past history just like the Dallas Cowboys fans do about their super bowl champion ship. Just because it was in the past doesn't mean it should be forgotten.

[Tiger33]

1 hour ago, WOSgrad said:

Very true,  As they have been winning pretty consistently since the early 1970's, it is hard to imagine a time when Newton wasn't winning, but they had that period of time.  In fact, Newton football didn't reach the .500 win percentage mark for its history until 1978.  The 1960s that jimmyw referenced were a period of particular struggle for the Eagles as they went 32-65-2 for a .326 winning percentage.

Even with that, Newton has had a school history that many would be jealous of.

I see that. I never looked at Newton record. Little Cypress was 82-54-3 through 1956-1969. We consolidate with Mauriceville in 1970 and we currently sit at 208-260-5 which is not to good.

[Goblin]

Neither Mauriceville nor Groves had active football programs so in my opinion Little Cypress and LC-M are the same entity just as are Port Neches and PN-G.  

Otherwise we'd have to make a distinction between those two pesky state titles by Port Neches in the 1950s and the one by PN-G in 1975.

[outanup]

TJ hasnt fielded a team in 15 yrs and still leads most teams in wins with 587.......Sting em Jackets Sting em!!!!! WOS hands down the Best....

[WOS99]

WO-S had ONE losing season, and it was 1982.

[griff]

20 hours ago, WOS99 said:

WO-S had ONE losing season, and it was 1982.

On 7/21/2017 at 8:42 PM, Stattrax said:

 

1983.