obamacare Death Panels!

[Reagan]

The death panels are called "Payment Advisory Board."  It's been described as an independent advisory board that, from the article. "

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as a group of “unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats to make health care decisions on behalf of American families and seniors.”  Wait -- I thought our socialist friends here said that there was no such thing as this "Payment Advisory Board" that makes life or death decisions for those folks that are unfortunately involved in obamacare?  SMH!!

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[BS Wildcats]

Big girl says there are no such panels.  I have first hand knowledge that says otherwise.

[Hagar]

15 hours ago, BS Wildcats said:

Big girl says there are no such panels.  I have first hand knowledge that says otherwise.

I know for a fact Medicare has them.  Anyone that denies their existence are like the Jews who walked into the gas chambers at Auswhitch thinking they were going to take a shower.

[Big girl]

On 7/28/2017 at 7:21 AM, Reagan said:

The death panels are called "Payment Advisory Board."  It's been described as an independent advisory board that, from the article. "

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as a group of “unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats to make health care decisions on behalf of American families and seniors.”  Wait -- I thought our socialist friends here said that there was no such thing as this "Payment Advisory Board" that makes life or death decisions for those folks that are unfortunately involved in obamacare?  SMH!!

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Liar!. Nurses and doctors decide what procedures, hospital stays etc are approved or denied based on Interqual or Mcmillian guidelines, which are written by doctors.  I have worked  for several medical insurance companies in that capacity. Registered Nurses can approve, but not deny. Only doctors can do both. They use what is called a peer to peer review.

[Reagan]

On 7/31/2017 at 8:38 AM, Big girl said:

Liar!. Nurses and doctors decide what procedures, hospital stays etc are approved or denied based on Interqual or Mcmillian guidelines, which are written by doctors.  I have worked  for several medical insurance companies in that capacity. Registered Nurses can approve, but not deny. Only doctors can do both. They use what is called a peer to peer review.

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[Hagar]

On July 31, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Big girl said:

Liar!. Nurses and doctors decide what procedures, hospital stays etc are approved or denied based on Interqual or Mcmillian guidelines, which are written by doctors.  I have worked  for several medical insurance companies in that capacity. Registered Nurses can approve, but not deny. Only doctors can do both. They use what is called a peer to peer review.

Since 300,000 veterans died because they couldn't get VA healthcare, I guess whoever decided they couldn't get healthcare could be considered a death panel.  I'm not asking you to defend them, because this happened in Govt run facilities, not public hospitals.  I do know my father-in-law was in his late 80's and the VA found prostate cancer but wouldn't remove it.  He died two years ago at 94.  Hooked up to morphine.  As far as I know, he was in good health at the time they found it.

[Hagar]

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In England, if you are obese, or overweight, you'll be refused healthcare for up to a year.  Of course some will die in that year.  Do you agree with this Big girl?  Are you okay with that?

[Hagar]

The above posted link, from 2016, was one small area of the U.K.  

Now the whole UK National Healthcare System is considering this.  If you aren't obese, or a smoker, you may think, so what.  Next time, it may be something that does affect you.  Drink cokes or coffee?  Eat a doughnut?  Only skin cancer for non Caucasians?  No more sickle cell coverage.  Once the Govt controls Healthcare, they own you.

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To contain rising cost, Government run healthcare systems invariably restrict healthcare supply.