baddog Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Big girl said: I have a serious question. Why are white people on welfare programs? Someone once said on this forum that it has been "60 plus years since the Civil Right's Act and it appears that we (black people) still don't have it together" the person asked for an explanation. If a majority of white people were not enslaved in this country, why are there so many who need public assistance? Serious answers only. Why should anyone answer you seriously when you didn't even attempt to address my post? You simply press quote and ask your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 hours ago, akifan94 said: Exactly. So why is the Left making such a huge ordeal and mess of things tearing down these statues? All it is doing is inciting protests which lead to violence. Before this hysteria on doing away with "southern" history started nobody was being oppressed or offended and if they were they were looking for a reason. Our country will be torn apart by the social justice warriors who think they are protecting it. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I hope you learn something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, baddog said: Why should anyone answer you seriously when you didn't even attempt to address my post? You simply press quote and ask your question. You don't have the answer, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted August 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 18 hours ago, Englebert said: I noticed these broad strokes...but these were/are being lobbed by the Liberals on this board. I initially tried to debate. Then attempted to just asking for evidence to support these unsubstantiated allegations. Finally, and reluctantly, resorted to using the same despicable tactics in retaliation. You could probably have a debate with anyone on this site from the Right, but try having a debate with the Liberal posters on here. If you think anyone on the Right is using unjust broad strokes, ask them to defend their opinion, and you will get an answer. Ask anyone on the Left, and you will get crickets, only to see the same vile being spewed at a later time. The evidence is abundant and overwhelming. You haven't posted much on this forum so I'm not putting you in their category. In fact, I have no doubt I could have a congenial debate with you. I'll throw Westend in there also because I believe I can (and had a few) adult debates with him. (Although I think he frequently uses the Liberal tactic of diving into the mud at times...as do I.) But try having any debate above a 3rd grade level with anyone else on the Left and it will devolve into childishness in less than two posts. I see absolutely no equivalency, just retaliation using like tactics. If you would like to debate on which side has degraded this forum into childish mudslinging, I will gleefully accept that challenge. I can pick one poster and have enough smut to overwhelm your evidence 10 fold. Your description of the liberal vs conservative posting is correct. Not often, but to many times, I've had to apologize, or concede that my post weren't quite up to snuff. I cannot remember any liberal poster on here do the same. I don't ever remember leaving a post directed at me unanswered. On this thread alone, I've challenged liberals three times (at least) with questions or assertions that they have failed to respond to. Why? I can only imagine that they were wrong - knew it - and haven't the gumption to admit it. Englebert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 hours ago, westend1 said: Why? Your the guy who said you can't tell the guys race from the photos Heck, baddog said no blacks got hit. When I showed him a different photo he said it was fake I said I didn't see any blacks in the videos I had watched. Don't quote me unless it's verbatim. My fake comment was tongue in cheek which is hard to purvey in text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Big girl said: You don't have the answer, do you? No, I don't have an answer for everything. If I did I would be God. Now, what did you think of my post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, Big girl said: I have a serious question. Why are white people on welfare programs? Someone once said on this forum that it has been "60 plus years since the Civil Right's Act and it appears that we (black people) still don't have it together" the person asked for an explanation. If a majority of white people were not enslaved in this country, why are there so many who need public assistance? Serious answers only. Because poverty is non discriminatory. Hence the U.S. is an equal opportunity country in spite of many trying to change that to an equal outcome country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akifan94 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, Big girl said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I hope you learn something. I don't need to be educated. I have stated slavery was and is a horrible time in our history. My point is by tearing down history, right or wrong, you are enraging people and dragging the past back to the spotlight. As I stated 90% of people I bet would not even know it was a Robert E Lee statue they were walking past if they didn't stop to read it. How do you defend Malcolm X? How about the recent What do we want? Dead cops? When do we want them? Now... chants Are, "pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon". There will always be hate in this country if groups on both sides can't let go and move forward. Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akifan94 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Here is a question for you Big Girl. Where does the largest amount of modern slavery take place today? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted August 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Big girl said: I have a serious question. Why are white people on welfare programs? Someone once said on this forum that it has been "60 plus years since the Civil Right's Act and it appears that we (black people) still don't have it together" the person asked for an explanation. If a majority of white people were not enslaved in this country, why are there so many who need public assistance? Serious answers only. Why are so many whites on welfare? A couple of reasons. First, our economy has been so bad, so long, many have had to go on welfare. Second, welfare has become so lucrative (evidently), that many on welfare live better than those that work. The Welfare Program is out of control, and is a prime example of how ineffective our Govt is at running programs. Jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 hours ago, REBgp said: Your description of the liberal vs conservative posting is correct. Not often, but to many times, I've had to apologize, or concede that my post weren't quite up to snuff. I cannot remember any liberal poster on here do the same. I don't ever remember leaving a post directed at me unanswered. On this thread alone, I've challenged liberals three times (at least) with questions or assertions that they have failed to respond to. Why? I can only imagine that they were wrong - knew it - and haven't the gumption to admit it. I take umbrage with the bold portion, REB. I'm fairly certain I've done this before on this site. Or if I haven't, I will admit that's I am wrong in admitting that I was previously wrong. Either way, you can now remove "any" from that assertion Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englebert Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 56 minutes ago, TxHoops said: I take umbrage with the bold portion, REB. I'm fairly certain I've done this before on this site. Or if I haven't, I will admit that's I am wrong in admitting that I was previously wrong. Either way, you can now remove "any" from that assertion If REBgp uses my same categories to describe people on the Left, then his quote is absolutely correct. I label the nut-case socialists, exclusionists, hate-mongering, race-baiters as Liberals, and the sane but misguided people that prefer a bigger government as Democrats. I would not put you in my Liberal category. But I'll let REBgp respond. TxHoops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Englebert said: If REBgp uses my same categories to describe people on the Left, then his quote is absolutely correct. I label the nut-case socialists, exclusionists, hate-mongering, race-baiters as Liberals, and the sane but misguided people that prefer a bigger government as Democrats. I would not put you in my Liberal category. But I'll let REBgp respond. I appreciate that pal and can tell you his response will be the same. As would BSW's - both refuse to categorize me as a liberal Englebert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted August 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 hours ago, TxHoops said: I take umbrage with the bold portion, REB. I'm fairly certain I've done this before on this site. Or if I haven't, I will admit that's I am wrong in admitting that I was previously wrong. Either way, you can now remove "any" from that assertion Consider it removed. I've no doubt you'll admit your mistakes, I just can't imagine you making one - oh, except MMGW, but that's kind of a he said/she said, so I can't say you're wrong, just misguided We agree on a lot. Disagree on a lot. But what prevents you from being labeled liberal, we can discuss our different viewpoints, accept the results, and move on, thinking no less of each other. A rare quality today in the exchange of political/social opinion. TxHoops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 55 minutes ago, REBgp said: Consider it removed. I've no doubt you'll admit your mistakes, I just can't imagine you making one - oh, except MMGW, but that's kind of a he said/she said, so I can't say you're wrong, just misguided We agree on a lot. Disagree on a lot. But what prevents you from being labeled liberal, we can discuss our different viewpoints, accept the results, and move on, thinking no less of each other. A rare quality today in the exchange of political/social opinion. I was telling the wife that once. Can't pigeon hole you. We each have some views that would be labeled as the opposing party view. Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big girl Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 20 hours ago, stevenash said: Tt 20 hours ago, REBgp said: Can you guys answer my question? On 8/16/2017 at 8:20 AM, akifan94 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Big girl said: Can you guys answer my question? I believe I did answer your question. Either you didn't read it or you don't like what you heard, so you ignored. Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatMack19 Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 So if you believe the people shouting at the guy in this video are idiots, you are a racist nazi. Is that correct big girl? Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted August 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Big girl said: Can you guys answer my question? I also answered your question. Please get someone to read it for you. I'd hope that person could explain it, but that's to much to hope for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted August 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 hours ago, stevenash said: I believe I did answer your question. Either you didn't read it or you don't like what you heard, so you ignored. No offense to the few liberals who can discuss things, but this is what we confront on here, post after post after post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, REBgp said: No offense to the few liberals who can discuss things, but this is what we confront on here, post after post after post. Yes it is- and those to whom you refer often question our intellect and demand evidence of the amount of formal education attained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted August 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, stevenash said: Yes it is- and those to whom you refer often question our intellect and demand evidence of the amount of formal education attained. Which, if these folks actually do have BA's or higher, makes me question the validity of the institution that granted them these degrees, or the reason they were given degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 everybody gets a trophy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted August 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, 77 said: everybody gets a trophy! Lol, absolutely. 77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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