Left & Right Clash in Virginia

[TxHoops]

3 minutes ago, Englebert said:

I think they align with the Left point of view way more than they align with the Right point of view...both want total control. But they differ extremely on who should be the elitists/favored. And I think that was what the post was alluding to. I actually have no idea what the economic values are of the Nazis, KKK, etc (small vs big government).

Who do you think the majority of their voters supported in the last election?  Or the one before that?

[TxHoops]

10 minutes ago, Englebert said:

You don't have to go to the video...we have examples on this board (but from the other side). I'm curious as to who you think is indoctrinating the people on the video. Do you think they are rabid Fox News viewers? Or maybe rabid MSNBC viewers? Do you fault the educational system (K-12, College, College Graduate School)? Do you fault Trump or Obama? And what percentage of people do you think on the Right are indoctrinated versus the the percentage of people on the Left that are indoctrinated?

Although certainly an inferior education plays a part, especially in eradication, the primary blame probably lies at home.  Ignorance begets ignorance...

[Hagar]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

I got the money for a one way ticket of your choice. Heck, I'll hock something if I have to. You won't go. You have it to good here. Your list of blacks who were killed.... Most were killed by police doing their job. What a torch to carry, but then you have to carry something

Did you find it strange in that list that none of them where in African countries?  I was surprised.  

[Englebert]

10 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Who do you think the majority of their voters supported in the last election?  Or the one before that?

I'm guessing many don't vote. But for the ones that do, I would guess Trump for the sole reason that the Left's platform (but not practiced) is total inclusion, which is definitely not a selling point for them. They are as exclusionary as the Leftist, but they admit it. Like I said previously, I have no idea what the economic values are for these guys and don't know if that even factors into their decisions. I'm fairly certain they were not happy with either candidate, as was most of the country, but for different reasons.

[Englebert]

12 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Although certainly an inferior education plays a part, especially in eradication, the primary blame probably lies at home.  Ignorance begets ignorance...

Do you think 2 degrees from Texas A&M qualifies as an inferior education?

[TxHoops]

3 minutes ago, Englebert said:

Do you think 2 degrees from Texas A&M qualifies as an inferior education?

To mine, yes  

[TxHoops]

6 minutes ago, Englebert said:

Do you think 2 degrees from Texas A&M qualifies as an inferior education?

I was speaking more to the public education system.  And jokes aside, I have always respected A&M academically.  

[team first]

13 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

To mine, yes  

Lmao easy Humpty 

[Hagar]

Allen West had a statement in his editorial, "And if a statue can oppress you, then I submit you have greater issues".  I tend to agree with that.  

[Reagan]

2 hours ago, westend1 said:

Ha ha. I'm sure those nazi protesters were all obama voters

National Socialist German Workers’ Party was the actual name of Hitler's movement.  You figure it out.  WE aren't the Socialist here!

[stevenash]

1 hour ago, TxHoops said:

Exhibit A.  Just as scripted  

And speaking of indoctrination, a little too much of a cable news station might make one actually believe that the best and the brightest have been indoctrinated as opposed to one's self  

And the supposition/assumption associated with  that statement would render one less enlightened than perceived.

[Reagan]

36 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Who do you think the majority of their voters supported in the last election?  Or the one before that?

Unfortunately a socialist.  But good thing that's not how we elect Presidents.  The two prior elections you crow about about left us 20 TRILLION in debt!  Plus many more problems!  Good thing for us, though, your party has been mainstreamed to the far left!  Just listen to what Elizabeth Warren had to say recently!

[stevenash]

I am always intrigued by the notion that when Mr. Obama was elected, it was due to a more sophisticated, more educated, and more refined group of voters.

But when November of 2016 rolled around, the voters were suddenly ignorant and less "enlightened".

[stevenash]

30 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

I was speaking more to the public education system.  And jokes aside, I have always respected A&M academically.  

Don't get me wrong, I am all for education and its benefits.  However, one can be pretty well educated in spite of a deficiency in the upper extremities of a formal education. I have mentioned this before, but two experiences in my lifetime suggest there is more to being intellectually competent than an Oxford Degree.   First example:  In my business, one must pass the securities exam in order to practice.  One of my past bosses told me that, in his Chicago office, three Ivy League educated aspirants came to our company and scoffed at the thought of having to pass such an exam.  Yes, all three failed it.  Second Example:  Long Term Capital management was an investment firm founded in 1994.  Within its organizational structure were some really well educated folks including 2 or 3 Nobel Laureates.  In 1998, the firm had lost so much money and was such a threat to our financial system that  16 financial institutions arranged for a 3.6 billion bailout under the supervision of the Federal Reserve.  (Maybe a little more practice in hands on experience would have been more productive than a depth of understanding of algorhythm.)One more less important experience:  I had a distant cousin who had two separate doctorate degrees and, as of age 45 had never held a job.

[akifan94]

How many of you have been to New Orleans and witnessed all those people flailing around in the streets being oppressed by those civil war statues? 

"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."

Do away with our history, right or wrong, and see what happens. 

Some people can look at those statues and take pride in a Southern heritage. Some see them as heroes to the slavery cause (which is wrong). Some can look at those and know that part of our history is behind us and we are a better people and America for it. Instead, idiot Liberal leaders want to throw it back in the public discussion and fan the flames of a time that was not something to be proud of. 

Malcolm X preached violence towards white people with no remorse but do a google search on how many statues are erected for him and how many streets in America carry his name. Do we tear those down as well? 

[stevenash]

 Senator Robert Byrd, a Democrat ,was a recruiter for the KKK in his early years and attained a position in the hierarch of that organization in West Virginia.    He was either a Senator and/or U.S. House member from 1953 until 2010. He has a number of streets and  highways named after him.  Do all of those street/highway names need to be eliminated?

[CardinalBacker]

2 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said:

You guys love y'all some obama. I'm not tryna make this left vs right blacks vs whites or obama vs trump. Racism is embarrassing 

You've got to admit... there's not a lot of diffence between a group waving signs and blaming the Jews and "mud people" for all of their woes.... and the group of people waving signs and blaming "white privilege" and racism for all of their woes. 

Don't buy into the hype.  Trump is about as responsible for that guy slamming into the rock-throwing protestors last weekend as Obama was for the guy who sniped all of those cops in Dallas last summer.  The guys on the right always have to answer for the actions of the biggest jacksass out there who wants to be associated with the right.  Let some Republican state senator from Idaho make a ridiculous statement about rape/abortion and he just spoke for every conservative out there.  Nobody holds the left collectively accountable for what their most despicable voices are saying.  Obama wasn't even associated with his own preacher's hateful speech.  

We're moving in the wrong direction.  Instead of progress and equality, we're moving into more and more racially divisive policies.  One group says a word and it's a term of endearment.  A different shade of person says the same word and they're branded a horrible person, fit for firing, etc... A group of people tear down a confederate statue in NC yesterday and they won't be prosecuted.  Let some other guy snatch down a similar statue of MLK or bust a window at the Holocaust Memorial and face hate crime charges.  Unlike most of you, I actually used to know some guys who were white supremacists and belonged to certain groups whose names get thrown around a lot.  They would talk about a coming race war and I thought they were totally out in left field on that one.  These days I'm not so sure.  

I think what you're seeing now is that a lot of white people are sick and tired of being painted as a devil because it's a whole lot easier to blame whitey than admit that most of the problems facing black communities today are self-inflicted.  

 

[baddog]

8 minutes ago, stevenash said:

 Senator Robert Byrd, a Democrat ,was a recruiter for the KKK in his early years and attained a position in the hierarch of that organization in West Virginia.    He was either a Senator and/or U.S. House member from 1953 until 2010. He has a number of streets and  highways named after him.  Do all of those street/highway names need to be eliminated?

Man, I almost forgot what Hillary said about good old Byrd.

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2 hours ago, REBgp said:

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8 minutes ago, baddog said:

Man, I almost forgot what Hillary said about good old Byrd.

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He admitted that he WAS a member of the kkk at one time. He apologized and said that he regretted it once he got older. When Hilliary met him, he wasn't a member, try again

 

[Big girl]

11 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

You've got to admit... there's not a lot of diffence between a group waving signs and blaming the Jews and "mud people" for all of their woes.... and the group of people waving signs and blaming "white privilege" and racism for all of their woes. 

Don't buy into the hype.  Trump is about as responsible for that guy slamming into the rock-throwing protestors last weekend as Obama was for the guy who sniped all of those cops in Dallas last summer.  The guys on the right always have to answer for the actions of the biggest jacksass out there who wants to be associated with the right.  Let some Republican state senator from Idaho make a ridiculous statement about rape/abortion and he just spoke for every conservative out there.  Nobody holds the left collectively accountable for what their most despicable voices are saying.  Obama wasn't even associated with his own preacher's hateful speech.  

We're moving in the wrong direction.  Instead of progress and equality, we're moving into more and more racially divisive policies.  One group says a word and it's a term of endearment.  A different shade of person says the same word and they're branded a horrible person, fit for firing, etc... A group of people tear down a confederate statue in NC yesterday and they won't be prosecuted.  Let some other guy snatch down a similar statue of MLK or bust a window at the Holocaust Memorial and face hate crime charges.  Unlike most of you, I actually used to know some guys who were white supremacists and belonged to certain groups whose names get thrown around a lot.  They would talk about a coming race war and I thought they were totally out in left field on that one.  These days I'm not so sure.  

I think what you're seeing now is that a lot of white people are sick and tired of being painted as a devil because it's a whole lot easier to blame whitey than admit that most of the problems facing black communities today are self-inflicted.  

 

White people have it so hard in this country. I feel bad for you guys.

[Big girl]

25 minutes ago, akifan94 said:

How many of you have been to New Orleans and witnessed all those people flailing around in the streets being oppressed by those civil war statues? 

"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."

Do away with our history, right or wrong, and see what happens. 

Some people can look at those statues and take pride in a Southern heritage. Some see them as heroes to the slavery cause (which is wrong). Some can look at those and know that part of our history is behind us and we are a better people and America for it. Instead, idiot Liberal leaders want to throw it back in the public discussion and fan the flames of a time that was not something to be proud of. 

Malcolm X preached violence towards white people with no remorse but do a google search on how many statues are erected for him and how many streets in America carry his name. Do we tear those down as well? 

Are you defending white supremists?

[Big girl]

Some of you guys miss the good "ole days". Back then, you could tell a black man "Boy, don't look at me". That is not going to ever happen again. Sorry!!!

 Lol

[Big girl]

29 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Don't get me wrong, I am all for education and its benefits.  However, one can be pretty well educated in spite of a deficiency in the upper extremities of a formal education. I have mentioned this before, but two experiences in my lifetime suggest there is more to being intellectually competent than an Oxford Degree.   First example:  In my business, one must pass the securities exam in order to practice.  One of my past bosses told me that, in his Chicago office, three Ivy League educated aspirants came to our company and scoffed at the thought of having to pass such an exam.  Yes, all three failed it.  Second Example:  Long Term Capital management was an investment firm founded in 1994.  Within its organizational structure were some really well educated folks including 2 or 3 Nobel Laureates.  In 1998, the firm had lost so much money and was such a threat to our financial system that  16 financial institutions arranged for a 3.6 billion bailout under the supervision of the Federal Reserve.  (Maybe a little more practice in hands on experience would have been more productive than a depth of understanding of algorhythm.)One more less important experience:  I had a distant cousin who had two separate doctorate degrees and, as of age 45 had never held a job.

Do you have a degree?

[Big girl]

33 minutes ago, stevenash said:

I am always intrigued by the notion that when Mr. Obama was elected, it was due to a more sophisticated, more educated, and more refined group of voters.

But when November of 2016 rolled around, the voters were suddenly ignorant and less "enlightened".

The truth hurts.