22-5A Question

[RaiderRed30]

I know with Ike, the districts changed to allow games to be played every five days, since most of the schools were effected and unable to play for weeks, but is there a plan in place if a district has one or two teams that are unable to play when district games are supposed to start? I am asking because from what everyone has said and the photos I have seen, I am at wonder if Vidor or PAM will be able to be ready to play next Friday. PAM it sounds like could be longer than just next week. Does anyone know how that would work to accommodate those schools.

 

[Alpha Wolf]

I was working on a similar question on another post but I'll just post it here since it is related to what you asked...

Can a school start football practice even though the school hasn't started classes?  The reason I ask is because district play is supposed to start on the 15th but Port Arthur Memorial isn't  scheduled to return to school for 3 to 4 weeks, last I heard.

[RaiderRed30]

11 minutes ago, Jag Insider said:

I was working on a similar question on another post but I'll just post it here since it is related to what you asked...

Can a school start football practice even though the school hasn't started classes?  The reason I ask is because district play is supposed to start on the 15th but Port Arthur Memorial isn't  scheduled to return to school for 3 to 4 weeks, last I heard.

UIL has said that schools can practice while school is out. I am guessing normal in-school (8 hours) practice instead of 2 a-days, but they can practice. Most schools are voluntary because the players may be in a shelter, with family, or working on cleaning and fixing their house.

Schools are also allowed to scrimmage, which is why Barbers Hill is scrimmaging Monday and then playing a game Friday. Katy and Collins are actually scrimmaging Friday night since both teams are without players due to flooding.

[WOSgrad]

I spoke to a 22-5A coach who said that plans are for a 22-5A DEC meeting this week to discuss just this matter.  That is, who, if anyone, will not be able to meet the bell when district starts next week (Week 3) and what to do if any school can't.

[pakronos]

PAM seems like they will be ready to go. Harrison said they are only missing 5 players that are in shelters outside of PA. If volleyball can have games and practice before school even starts, I don't see why football can't do the same

[Hagar]

54 minutes ago, pakronos said:

PAM seems like they will be ready to go. Harrison said they are only missing 5 players that are in shelters outside of PA. If volleyball can have games and practice before school even starts, I don't see why football can't do the same

That's what I was thinking.  Volleyball starts way early.

[Lions Pride 2021]

Livingston was practicing Friday.  With the destruction southeast of here I'm wondering how this is going to work?

It would be great if the kids could start next week but from what I hear its still in bad shape. They'd have to compress the schedule or split into zones.

[WOSgrad]

1 hour ago, pakronos said:

PAM seems like they will be ready to go. Harrison said they are only missing 5 players that are in shelters outside of PA. If volleyball can have games and practice before school even starts, I don't see why football can't do the same

The answer came in part from the coach I was speaking to.  He is from a school that is scheduled to start next Monday.  He is getting grief from the principal and administration about even opening up voluntary workouts.  The reasoning behind the grief is that young men even though they are not compelled to attend, will take "unnecessary" risks in order to attend these workouts or practices.  If something were to happen to one of those young men, either in transit to or during practice, the administration is fearful of the liability it would face given that it has made a decision that the schools are currently not in a condition to attend.

Is that likely to happen? No.  Given sovereign immunity laws would a school district face liability?  Doubtful.  But tell a superintendent or board member that.

[AshlyHasBeen]

I would say Vidor is in much worse shape than PAM. Memorial high school didn't get any water in it. The stadium is fine also. PAISD said it could be up to 3 weeks until school opens, but it could be sooner. 

[RaiderRed30]

17 minutes ago, AshlyVYPE said:

I would say Vidor is in much worse shape than PAM. Memorial high school didn't get any water in it. The stadium is fine also. PAISD said it could be up to 3 weeks until school opens, but it could be sooner. 

Remembered that Memorial was on the north side so I knew it should be good, but did not know about the students and coaches. If they can start playing next week that is great. As for Vidor I have not heard or seen much on it, which is understandable all things considered. Did the High School actually flood or did the water just get close to it?

[BMTSoulja1]

1 hour ago, RaiderRed30 said:

Remembered that Memorial was on the north side so I knew it should be good, but did not know about the students and coaches. If they can start playing next week that is great. As for Vidor I have not heard or seen much on it, which is understandable all things considered. Did the High School actually flood or did the water just get close to it?

It's actually quite surprising that Memorial HS didn't take in water being that the area used to be marshland AND that the high school parking lot routinely floods even in light rain.  Also, not even 3 blocks away, there was horrible flooding at homes and the elementary school that's also on 9th avenue.  I'm starting to think that the damage was not assessed from the inside, but only from the outside...

[Alpha Wolf]

7 hours ago, WOSgrad said:

The answer came in part from the coach I was speaking to.  He is from a school that is scheduled to start next Monday.  He is getting grief from the principal and administration about even opening up voluntary workouts.  The reasoning behind the grief is that young men even though they are not compelled to attend, will take "unnecessary" risks in order to attend these workouts or practices.  If something were to happen to one of those young men, either in transit to or during practice, the administration is fearful of the liability it would face given that it has made a decision that the schools are currently not in a condition to attend.

Is that likely to happen? No.  Given sovereign immunity laws would a school district face liability?  Doubtful.  But tell a superintendent or board member that.

Probably PN-G since they are the only ones that have a game this week, with the exception of Baytown Lee. 

[AshlyHasBeen]

6 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

It's actually quite surprising that Memorial HS didn't take in water being that the area used to be marshland AND that the high school parking lot routinely floods even in light rain.  Also, not even 3 blocks away, there was horrible flooding at homes and the elementary school that's also on 9th avenue.  I'm starting to think that the damage was not assessed from the inside, but only from the outside...

PAM cancelled their game with Westside, but they are looking for a scrimmage this week. As far as I know Vidor did get water in the school. I know Coach Mathews' house did also, as well as Coach Faircloth. A lot of players and coaches in this area dealing with a lot. Still everyone I've talked to wants to get playing ASAP. 

[Stattrax]

Fairclothe got at least 8 inches. Mathews got several foot. 

[mytwocents-28]

Mathews house was up to the roof. Vidor high did get water in it but I'm not sure how much.

[DannyShapiroBE]

District 22-5A executive committee will meet later this week.

A lot of district coaches and players reported some awful flooding news.

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[Cougtalk]

On 9/4/2017 at 9:22 PM, Jag Insider said:

I was working on a similar question on another post but I'll just post it here since it is related to what you asked...

Can a school start football practice even though the school hasn't started classes?  The reason I ask is because district play is supposed to start on the 15th but Port Arthur Memorial isn't  scheduled to return to school for 3 to 4 weeks, last I heard.

yes they can. Once you get passed the Start date set by the state of texas you can practice as if you are in school. 

 

The bigger issue might be equipment and a place to practice. 

[ThaGhost]

PAM equipment is fine. They'll be ready to play. Scrimmage against Channelview Saturday. 

[The Icon]

So...

PNG good to go - Game vs Sterling

Nederland good to go - Game vs Dayton

PAM good to go - Scrimmage vs Channelview

Livingston good to go - They're scheduled to play Caney Creek, not sure what shape CC is in

Lumberton is scheduled to go back to school on the 11th, but HF can't play this week

Lee is good to go - They're scheduled to play GCM, not sure of the status of that game

Central and Ozen are waiting for water access, and their games have been cancelled

Vidor is dealing w/ substantial damage to their community/school

 

Feel free to correct me as needed, just trying to recap the state of the district.

[WOSgrad]

28 minutes ago, The Icon said:

So...

PNG good to go - Game vs Sterling

Nederland good to go - Game vs Dayton

PAM good to go - Scrimmage vs Channelview

Livingston good to go - They're scheduled to play Caney Creek, not sure what shape CC is in

Lumberton is scheduled to go back to school on the 11th, but HF can't play this week

Lee is good to go - They're scheduled to play GCM, not sure of the status of that game

Central and Ozen are waiting for water access, and their games have been cancelled

Vidor is dealing w/ substantial damage to their community/school

 

Feel free to correct me as needed, just trying to recap the state of the district.

Pretty much correct.  Although the measures in Beaumont to temporarily fix the water situation seems to have Central and Ozen ready to go.

I imagine we will know more after the DEC meeting that is supposed to take place.

[Indianforever]

57 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:

Pretty much correct.  Although the measures in Beaumont to temporarily fix the water situation seems to have Central and Ozen ready to go.

I imagine we will know more after the DEC meeting that is supposed to take place.

When is the meeting 

[WOSgrad]

11 minutes ago, indianforever said:

When is the meeting 

As far as I know, it hasn't been set yet.

[AshlyHasBeen]

It's set for Friday according the Coach Mathews.

[Crawford72]

I saw Central practicing at HF this morning and heard Ozen also was practicing there. At least they are getting some practice time in. They are not too far from where the helicopters are loading hay to drop for cattle. 

[WOSgrad]

5 minutes ago, Crawford72 said:

I saw Central practicing at HF this morning and heard Ozen also was practicing there. At least they are getting some practice time in. They are not too far from where the helicopters are loading hay to drop for cattle. 

Haha, I saw a facebook live from Jag Insider which showed one of those big Chinook helicopters landing while Central was practicing.