Newton 41 Silsbee 17/FINAL

[Tiger90]

The offense is questionable.  There isn't a generational player to hide the issues and save it this year.  Wr routes were missed.  Ol needs work.  Qb has a good ball but looks more of a pocket passer vs dual.    Hard to get many passes out when defenders were in his face so quickly.  Scheme needs adjusting to fit personnel.  Lots of work to do.  Kicking (fg) game is a highlight for once in a long time.

[BADSANTA]

Last time Sikabee tried to do the pocket passer thing, it didn't work out back in 2014. Maybe they can run a two QB system with a dual QB. Not having a mobile QB and a suspect OL is bad. Very bad. 

[L-Train11]

5 minutes ago, BADSANTA said:

Last time Sikabee tried to do the pocket passer thing, it didn't work out back in 2014. Maybe they can run a two QB system with a dual QB. Not having a mobile QB and a suspect OL is bad. Very bad. 

I would put Lowe at qb. He actually can throw pretty well but his legs would be a good threat.

[BMTSoulja1]

Fyi, Kalon used to be a QB in Pee Wee football....

[ST413]

My question with either Lowe or Barnes as qb or even a RB would be whether they could take the punishment of either position.  I would hate to lose that dual threat at receiver but they are weapons that need to touch the ball.

[purpleeagle]

Going back and reading the Newton vs. Silsbee post, it seems that the Silsbee attitude has changed.

BNTS---1  -   tigers 35 Eagles 29

Talking about Silsbee " I've also seen ---tigers mature right before our eyes and it'll be evident on the defensive side of the ball''

Based on Jasper  scrimmage Newton is down from last year, not as good as the previous few years

Who That- very crazy, I think a lot of folks will be talking about Silsbee after this game.

Who That is right, their is a lot of people talking about Silsbee after that game, but they seem to have gone from a positive attitude about Silsbee to a negative attitude.

I WILL REMIND YOU THAT CARTHAGE FINISHED THIRD IN THEIR DISTRICT LAST YEAR  BUT WENT ON TO WIN STATE.

[STiger85]

blah, blah, blah, heard the same thing last year. Put this player here, put that player there. This aint working, gotta do this. You guys......There is a reason Silsbee tries to schedule top notch teams, teams that are not push overs. They make us see our flaws so we can work on them.  And, just like last year watch this year play out. For me, knowing these players the way I do, I'm going to bet on the players to work their butts off and get it going in the right direction. TigerNation!!! 

[BMTSoulja1]

2 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Going back and reading the Newton vs. Silsbee post, it seems that the Silsbee attitude has changed.

BNTS---1  -   tigers 35 Eagles 29

Talking about Silsbee " I've also seen ---tigers mature right before our eyes and it'll be evident on the defensive side of the ball''

Based on Jasper  scrimmage Newton is down from last year, not as good as the previous few years

Who That- very crazy, I think a lot of folks will be talking about Silsbee after this game.

Who That is right, their is a lot of people talking about Silsbee after that game, but they seem to have gone from a positive attitude about Silsbee to a negative attitude.

I WILL REMIND YOU THAT CARTHAGE FINISHED THIRD IN THEIR DISTRICT LAST YEAR  BUT WENT ON TO WIN STATE.

There was a lot of things that I didn't expect to happen...  I can admit, I was wrong.  I would've just hoped Silsbee could've kept the intensity up from that momentum from the first half...

[Who That]

Need a lot of work on the ol and got to put the ball in the right hands figure this out and Silsbee will be fine . Silsbee has way to much speed and talent. And these guy's can do a lot of damage in the right spot.

[Silsbee92]

Nothing special happened in this game.  At all.

Except the field goal.

Power football from Newton.

Silsbee will be fine.

[One4All]

Where are the stats for this game? 

[Maroon4]

9 hours ago, L-Train11 said:

I would put Lowe at qb. He actually can throw pretty well but his legs would be a good threat.

You saying Collins can't throw? And btw...  Lowe would have been killed with all sacks last night! 

 

9 hours ago, L-Train11 said:

I would put Lowe at qb. He actually can throw pretty well but his legs would be a good threat.

 

[Maroon4]

10 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

Fyi, Kalon used to be a QB in Pee Wee football....

FYI so was Collins! And guess what, he CHOSE to play B team QB in jr high bc he simply wanted to play,   was Freshman QB alternating possessions with Mason Murray, has been back up QB since sophomore year. I won't degrade any players as I know and love them all! They all need to work, on offense, defense, penalties, and running routes etc! So what's your point? 

[STiger85]

Just a few quick stats:

                                                        Tigers                     Eagles

Score:  Total                                       17                           41

First Downs:  Total                               9                           22

First Downs:Rush / Pass / Penalty  6 / 1 / 2               16 / 6 / 0

Rushing Attempts                               32                          55

Net Yards Rushing                             77                         276

Yards per Rush                                  2.4                         5.0

Longest Rush                                     14                          50

Rushing Touchdowns                          0                            5

Passing:  Net Yards                           90                          115

Passing:  Comp - Attemp - Int       7 / 20 / 2                 10 / 20 / 1

Yards per Completion                      12.9                        11.5

Longest Pass Completion                 69                            28

Passing:  Touchdowns                      1                               0

Total Offensive Plays                       52                            75

Total Net Yards                               167                          391

Average Gain per Play                    3.2                            5.2

1st Down Plays:  # / Ave Yds.       22 / 3                       30 / 3.2

2nd Down Plays:  # / Ave Yds.     16 / 1.5                     26 / 5.3

3rd Down Plays:  # / Ave Yds.      13 / 5.5                    15 / 7.9

4th Down Plays:  # / Ave Yds.        1 / 6                         4 / 10

Fumbles:  Number/Lost                  3 / 1                         3 / 2

Turnover Margin (fumb & INTs)     even                        even

All Penalties:  Number - Yards       9 - 54                     11 - 91

Off Pen:  Number - Yards              7 - 44                       7 - 51

Def Pen:  Number - Yards             2 - 10                       4 - 40

Punts:  # - Yards - Long            8 - 229 - 41              3 - 99 - 38

Yards per Punt                             28.6                           33.0

Punts inside 20                               1                                0

Punt Returns:  # - Yds - Long   1 - 47 - 47                  2 - 0 - 2

Punt Returns:  Ave Return           47.0                             0.0

Punt Returns:  Touchdowns           1                                0

Kick Returns:  # - Yds - Long   2 - 19 - 12                 5 - 16 - 9

Kickoff Returns:  Ave Return        9.5                             3.2

Kickoff Returns:  Touchdowns      0                                 0

Interceptions: #- Yds - TDs      1 - 0 - 0                     2 - 44 - 1

Fum Rec: # - Yds - TDs           2 - 0 - 0                     1 - 0 - 0

Time of Possession:  Total       21:39                         26:21

Time of Possession:  1st Half   10:28                        13:32

Time of Possession:  2nd Half  11:11                        12:49

3rd Downs:  # Converted / #      1 / 13                        8 / 15

3rd Down Conversion %             7.7%                       53.3%

4th Downs:  # Converted / #       1 / 3                         2 / 4

4th Down Conversion %             33.3%                     50.0%

Sacks (by):  # & Yds               2 for -12 yds.          4 for -23 yds.

Field Goals:  Made - Attemp      1 - 1                         0 - 0

Longest Field Goal Made           45                              0

Extra Points:  Made - Attemp    2 - 2                         5 - 5

Number of Drives                       13                             12

Average Drive Start                  28.4                          39.8

Red Zone Chances - Scores     0-0                            5-4

Red Zone Breakdown          TDs:0, FGs:            0TDs: 4, FGs: 0

 

PASSING	Completions	Attempts	Yards	Long	TDs	INTs
Jacob Collins	7	20	90	69	1	2
RUSHING	Rushes	Yards	Long	TDs	Yds/Rush
Adonis Thomas	10	40	14	0	4.0
Jacob Collins	10	2	11	0	0.2
Dralyn Taylor	7	26	12	0	3.7
Jovan Hill	4	14	13	0	3.5
RECEIVING	Catches	Thrown To	Yards	Long	TDs	Yds/Catch
Tre Lowe	3	3	75	69	1	25.0
Adonis Thomas	2	3	0	1	0	0.0
Kalon Barnes	1	8	10	10	0	10.0
Paxton Bryan	1	3	5	5	0	5.0
Eagles Leaders
PASSING	Completions	Attempts	Yards	Long	TDs	INTs
Josh Foster	10	19	115	28	0	1
Tamauzia Brown	0	1	0	0	0	0
RUSHING	Rushes	Yards	Long	TDs	Yds/Rush
Darwin Barlow	26	185	44	2	7
Josh Foster	11	78	50	2	7
Tamauzia Brown	11	49	12	1	4
RECEIVING	Catches	Thrown To	Yards	Long	TDs	Yds/Catch
Darwin Barlow	4	5	49	22	0	12.3
Davien Johnson	2	3	36	28	0	18.0
Noah Williams	2	7	15	10	0	7.5

[SilsbeeFootball15]

I'm not so sure any of you saw the 7 or 8 guys in the backfield blowing up the play as soon as the ball was snapped. What would Tre or Kalon do with a rush like that? They'd get sacked. Neither one can throw a ball like Collins even on the off chance they get more than 2 seconds to throw the ball. O line play must improve, receivers must run smarter routes, and play calling must be better. Nothing wrong with the QB play this game.

[SilsbeeFootball15]

Also, because a kid played something in PeeWee doesn't automatically qualify them for a position in high school football. QB's in peewee and QB's in high school are different. I shouldn't have to post that, but I guess it's not a widely known thing. 

[BMTSoulja1]

1 hour ago, Maroon4 said:

FYI so was Collins! And guess what, he CHOSE to play B team QB in jr high bc he simply wanted to play,   was Freshman QB alternating possessions with Mason Murray, has been back up QB since sophomore year. I won't degrade any players as I know and love them all! They all need to work, on offense, defense, penalties, and running routes etc! So what's your point? 

Didn't degrade a player.  Just pointing out something since the other poster suggested Lowe being QB.  I think you read too much into it...

But I do agree.  All need some work...

[BMTSoulja1]

41 minutes ago, SilsbeeFootball15 said:

Also, because a kid played something in PeeWee doesn't automatically qualify them for a position in high school football. QB's in peewee and QB's in high school are different. I shouldn't have to post that, but I guess it's not a widely known thing. 

Missed my point.  Post was a branch off and 'FYI' from the previous poster's post.  I shouldn't have had to clarify that.

[ST413]

Hmm most interesting stat on there: time of possession in the second half Newton 12:49, Silsbee 11:11, first half Newton 13:32 Silsbee 10:28.  Looks like our defense wasn't on the field near as much as was thought in that second half.  

[CardinalBacker]

19 hours ago, BADSANTA said:

Listening to the game and a watching a few games last yeaf, this offense scheme is still questionable. Adonis, did well his sophomore because he is a solid back but had a very mobile QB who rushed for 1800 yards and 20 something touchdowns. Silsbee QB this year isn't as noble and the scheme is much different. Tyler was a dynamic back who made the offense last year with Jones and Barnes. The Silsbee OL really needs to dig in and get better or this team is going nowhere. I hope this was just bad play due to being 1st game and a week or so no practice. Defense is much improved but can't be on the field all night. Not sure why on 3 different possessions we threw the ball od 2nd and short. Silsbee needs to keep the ball in Barnes and Lowe's hands 50% of the time. Alot of games left. I see us as a 3rd lr 4th seed or staying home. 

Nah.... I still believe y'all will be one of the top seeds in the district. BC, LCM, Huffman, and Cleveland were all hit hard by the storm. It's hard to miss two weeks or so of practice (as well as two games) and be playing well. Don't quote me, but I was told that our kids went almost two full weeks without practicing in pads.... and our young squad needed all of the reps they could get. 

[Maroon4]

6 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

Didn't degrade a player.  Just pointing out something since the other poster suggested Lowe being QB.  I think you read too much into it...

But I do agree.  All need some work...

 I Apologize, didn't mean to insinuate that you degraded any of the players. But after the first game, posters suggesting alternate QB's and saying, "who can actually throw the ball," lit me up a little.....and yes, I'm sure I did read too much into it. 

[BMTSoulja1]

13 minutes ago, Maroon4 said:

 I Apologize, didn't mean to insinuate that you degraded any of the players. But after the first game, posters suggesting alternate QB's and saying, "who can actually throw the ball," lit me up a little.....and yes, I'm sure I did read too much into it. 

Naw.  No prob.

That game burned me up pretty good, but I do support the coach and kids , especially how they turned it around after last year started looking bleek.  

Collins didn't look any worse than Jones last year in his first couple of games.  I'm just looking for progression for next game...

[L-Train11]

8 hours ago, Maroon4 said:

You saying Collins can't throw? And btw...  Lowe would have been killed with all sacks last night! 

 

 

No no not that at all. That's not what I meant, just that Lowe is a huge threat running the ball. And silsbee has always thrived with a dual threat qb.

[L-Train11]

52 minutes ago, Maroon4 said:

 I Apologize, didn't mean to insinuate that you degraded any of the players. But after the first game, posters suggesting alternate QB's and saying, "who can actually throw the ball," lit me up a little.....and yes, I'm sure I did read too much into it. 

Let me clarify, when I said "who can actually throw the ball", I was not meaning  that Collins can't throw the ball. That comment was meant for Lowe, everyone talks about his speed but from what I've seen in practice he can actually throw pretty good as well. That's what I meant, and probably could have worded it more clearly. Not a knock on Collins at all,

[purpleeagle]

L-T, sure sounded to me like you were knocking Collins, saying this other guy can throw and run. I don't think the coach put his second best qb in as the starter. If the other kid had played and got the same results, which I believe he would have, then you would be wanting to have him replaced.

Are you president of the QB club?