bullets13 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 6 hours ago, Reagan said: Not saying I totally agree with this. Just putting this out there for debate. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up My previous response is to this article. Quote
baddog Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 I have seen several videos showing muzzle flash from about the 10th floor. Quote
Ty Cobb Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 I've seen several reports that state the shooter used automatic weapons. I've also seen reports that say the shooter used an AR and an AK with bump stocks. Does anyone know the truth? Did he actually have fully automatic weapons or not? Quote
Hagar Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 14 hours ago, bullets13 said: Well, the article questions how one person could hit so many people, and "expertly wield an automatic rifle" for so long. With 22,000 people standing shoulder to shoulder, and with him shooting extremely fast rounds, I'd be willing to bet he hit 300-400 people with the first 200 rounds he fired, which would've been in under a minute. It would be almost impossible for a bullet to miss someone. Also, with the minimal recoil of the AR-15, I highly doubt someone would become exhausted shooting it for ten minutes, especially with pauses in between to reload. I agree. Have they announced he was shooting an AR-15? I haven't heard. There are a number of potential auto rifles with a lot of recoil, but the AR-15 shouldn't have been taxing. But you're correct about hitting people. In fact, with the first clip, it'd been hard as hades to miss anyone. I'm fascinated the reporters are so fixated on how he got the weapons & ammo to his room. Seen reports he'd often stayed long stays in casinos, so he was familiar. Friday & Sat afternoons in big Casinos are bedlam with all the folks checking in. You could easily carry them up to your room in baggage on multiple trips and no one would ever realize it. I am still very curious about motive. It's possible he could've just snapped, but with all the planning and forethought that went into this (girlfriend gone - he wires her money - acquisition of the number of guns and large amount of ammo) it wasn't a spur of the moment thing. Doesn't sound like snapped is the right word. And again, imo, the assurances by the FBI that he had no ties to ISIS (Islam) only 12 hours after the incident is suspicious in itself. He doesn't fit the profile, but for them to make a statement like that, that quick, is a red flag. Also curious about no apparent muzzle flashes from his room. The alleged muzzle flashes from a lower floor is hard for me to believe. Never stayed at the Mandalay, but most of those resorts don't have windows that open (don't want the big losers jumping to their death). Hope the Govt is open to what all the investigation reveals, but after the last 8 years, I have absolutely no reason to trust anything they say. Quote
Reagan Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 Hummmmm! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
PhatMack19 Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Posted October 4, 2017 This is a random video hours before that shows the strobe light in the lower room. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up bullets13 1 Quote
stevenash Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, Reagan said: Hummmmm! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up If he was, I doubt the media will bring this to the forefront unless forced to Quote
2wedge Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, Reagan said: Hummmmm! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I love how the right loves to call things #fakenews, but leans on infowars sites of it's ilk for their information. 99% of the links posted here are from sites that would classify as #fakenews. This board is full of Trump puppets that do as he says. new tobie 1 Quote
PhatMack19 Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Posted October 4, 2017 One internet tin foil hat theory that kinda actually makes some sense is the shooters job. The jobs he had made a decent living, but nothing spectacular. Real estate investing can be very profitable but hard to believe enough to gamble $30k a day. He owned 2 planes and was a licensed pilot. Owned real estate and gambled a ton, which are both ways criminals wash their money. Was he running drugs/guns in those planes? Or was he just that good of a gambler that he always won? If it was the former, I can see why the fbi is being so tight lipped. Also this kinda goes along with his limited online presence and hardly any pictures that exist of the guy. Quote
stevenash Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, 2wedge said: I love how the right loves to call things #fakenews, but leans on infowars sites of it's ilk for their information. 99% of the links posted here are from sites that would classify as #fakenews. This board is full of Trump puppets that do as he says. I wish to challenge your assertion. Please document your 99% claim because I think it is very similar to the claim of another board member that he knew people who were troubled by the Kaepernick situation and yet were not troubled by the James Byrd dragging ( even though they were 20 years apart) Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 34 minutes ago, 2wedge said: I love how the right loves to call things #fakenews, but leans on infowars sites of it's ilk for their information. 99% of the links posted here are from sites that would classify as #fakenews. This board is full of Trump puppets that do as he says. Fake news is not defined by the source...it's defined by whether it's fake or not. Nice move, though...right out of the handbook. Quote
baddog Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 5 hours ago, PhatMack19 said: This is a random video hours before that shows the strobe light in the lower room. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up I can remember the time I went to Vegas and left my strobe light at home. Ruined my whole weekend. Hagar 1 Quote
2wedge Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 5 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Fake news is not defined by the source...it's defined by whether it's fake or not. Nice move, though...right out of the handbook. Just to be clear, are you saying that there is "real" news on infowars? Quote
2wedge Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 5 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Fake news is not defined by the source...it's defined by whether it's fake or not. Nice move, though...right out of the handbook. Right out of what handbook? I'm going to assume you mean the liberal handbook because the assumption is that anyone who opposes trump or any of you idiots who deify him are liberal. Well, I am not liberal....not by a long shot. I am also not a trump supporter....not by a long shot. This man is the worst thing to happen to our country in ages and most of you are playing right into his hand. TxHoops 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, 2wedge said: Right out of what handbook? I'm going to assume you mean the liberal handbook because the assumption is that anyone who opposes trump or any of you idiots who deify him are liberal. Well, I am not liberal....not by a long shot. I am also not a trump supporter....not by a long shot. This man is the worst thing to happen to our country in ages and most of you are playing right into his hand. So I MUST be an idiot if I disagree...lol. So tell me, why is Trump the worst thing that has happened to this country in ages...give some specific examples. I'm thinking Obamacare is bad, Frank-Dodd is bad, all the scandals under Obama are bad. Let's hear it, what has Trump done to make you say that. Englebert 1 Quote
stevenash Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said: So I MUST be an idiot if I disagree...lol. So tell me, why is Trump the worst thing that has happened to this country in ages...give some specific examples. I'm thinking Obamacare is bad, Frank-Dodd is bad, all the scandals under Obama are bad. Let's hear it, what has Trump done to make you say that. 2 wedge- I believe his is suggesting that you bring it rather than sing it Englebert and LumRaiderFan 2 Quote
Hagar Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, 2wedge said: Just to be clear, are you saying that there is "real" news on infowars? I would ask you, where would you go for 'real' news? I watch CBS every evening. Their news is so slanted it's pathetic, and one of their top people said she was, "not even sympathetic to the Vegas victims since they were gun owners and most likely Republicans". And Rather ran his fabricated piece on Bush. CNN & others have been exposed creating fake news. Ninety percent of the news on Trump has been negative. So again I ask you, where do you go for 'real' news? I'm not trying to put you down, because I don't know where to go for real news. Only online news source that I've heard has never published false news is Breitbart, although I'll admit it's slanted. What we use to refer to as news, which was relatively not slanted or fabricated, and had reporters who actually researched their stories, is evidently extinct. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
Hagar Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 29 minutes ago, 2wedge said: Right out of what handbook? I'm going to assume you mean the liberal handbook because the assumption is that anyone who opposes trump or any of you idiots who deify him are liberal. Well, I am not liberal....not by a long shot. I am also not a trump supporter....not by a long shot. This man is the worst thing to happen to our country in ages and most of you are playing right into his hand. The majority of the conservatives on this Forum were not "Trump Supporters". But when confronted with Hillary vs Whoever, Whoever (in this case Trump) wins every time. You say you're not a liberal. Can you name 10 good things Obama did for our country in his 8 years? If you can, you'd have to be a liberal. I can probably name at least four Trump has done already, and he's only been in office less than a year. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
Englebert Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 33 minutes ago, 2wedge said: Right out of what handbook? I'm going to assume you mean the liberal handbook because the assumption is that anyone who opposes trump or any of you idiots who deify him are liberal. Well, I am not liberal....not by a long shot. I am also not a trump supporter....not by a long shot. This man is the worst thing to happen to our country in ages and most of you are playing right into his hand. Who are these posters on here that deify Trump? It has been stated over and over...and over (we even had a poll) by every non-Liberal on here, and practically each has admitted/stated emphatically that they voted against Hillary. So again, who are you referring to when you say "you idiots who deify him"? And when you are contemplating an answer, be sure to answer LumRaiderFan's questions also. We have had plenty of posters come on here, call everyone idiots, then run from any questions that ask for clarification or evidence of their contentions. Let's see if you follow that worn out path. LumRaiderFan and Hagar 2 Quote
Hagar Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, 2wedge said: Time out. Quote malfunction. Quote
Reagan Posted October 5, 2017 Report Posted October 5, 2017 10 hours ago, 2wedge said: I love how the right loves to call things #fakenews, but leans on infowars sites of it's ilk for their information. 99% of the links posted here are from sites that would classify as #fakenews. This board is full of Trump puppets that do as he says. From the article: "During a live press conference, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo revealed that the Las Vegas gunman, Stephen Paddock, may have been “radicalized” and that authorities were attempting to uncover the source of his radicalization." Are you saying that Infowars put words in the Sheriff's mouth? Quote
PhatMack19 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Posted October 5, 2017 #FakeNews This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
PhatMack19 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Posted October 5, 2017 Trump spent today visiting victims in Vegas. This guy refused to sit down when the First Lady and Trump came in to visit him. He was wounded by bullets to the leg. Quote: I will never lie down when the President of this great country comes to shake my hand! There may be plenty of issues in this country but I will always respect my country, my president and my flag. Shot in the leg or not, I will stand to show my President the respect he deserves! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted October 5, 2017 Report Posted October 5, 2017 19 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: So I MUST be an idiot if I disagree...lol. So tell me, why is Trump the worst thing that has happened to this country in ages...give some specific examples. I'm thinking Obamacare is bad, Frank-Dodd is bad, all the scandals under Obama are bad. Let's hear it, what has Trump done to make you say that. Still waiting on the list that makes Trump the worst thing in ages, 2wedge. Quote
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