XX Man Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 After all the high hikes, I have to wonder. Is our center trying to put the ball up on it's point. like the pros are doing now, and hiking from that position? I don't understand how the pros make it work, especially if the QB is in shotgun. Whatever is going on, it needs to change. Whatever style they need to use, it has to get the ball into the QB's hands. ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING 1 Quote
Uncle Pig Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 2:29 AM, XX Man said: After all the high hikes, I have to wonder. Is our center trying to put the ball up on it's point. like the pros are doing now, and hiking from that position? I don't understand how the pros make it work, especially if the QB is in shotgun. Whatever is going on, it needs to change. Whatever style they need to use, it has to get the ball into the QB's hands. Expand Going under center will eliminate pretty much all snapping issues...just saying Quote
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 2:29 AM, XX Man said: After all the high hikes, I have to wonder. Is our center trying to put the ball up on it's point. like the pros are doing now, and hiking from that position? I don't understand how the pros make it work, especially if the QB is in shotgun. Whatever is going on, it needs to change. Whatever style they need to use, it has to get the ball into the QB's hands. Expand The bye week, make the center long snap for 6 hours a day all week long to each qb 40 snaps per person at least Quote
griff Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 2:56 AM, Uncle Pig said: Going under center will eliminate pretty much all snapping issues...just saying Expand We can't do that for the entire game. It eliminates too many options. wo-s#1 1 Quote
Uncle Pig Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:01 AM, griff said: We can't do that for the entire game. It eliminates too many options. Expand Which is more important? Eliminating options or not turning the ball over? I'll go ahead and answer that one for you.....turnovers have got to be the number 1 cause of most losses. XX Man 1 Quote
XX Man Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:09 AM, Uncle Pig said: Which is more important? Eliminating options or not turning the ball over? I'll go ahead and answer that one for you.....turnovers have got to be the number 1 cause of most losses. Expand They better do what ever is needed to complete the transfer. If that means the center drops down to the tried and proven 2 hands on the ball, or the QB going under center, they better get it done. That game against H-J was the sloppiest game I have seen WOS play in many years. (I missed the Kennedale game) Quote
XX Man Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 2:56 AM, ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING said: The bye week, make the center long snap for 6 hours a day all week long to each qb 40 snaps per person at least Expand Oh wow. That would be close to abuse. haha Quote
Uncle Pig Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 All I know is WOS has incredible talent and can be just as successful under center as they are in the gun ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING 1 Quote
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:29 AM, XX Man said: Oh wow. That would be close to abuse. haha Expand You right this is not the good ol days anymore Quote
Goblin Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:09 AM, Uncle Pig said: Which is more important? Eliminating options or not turning the ball over? I'll go ahead and answer that one for you.....turnovers have got to be the number 1 cause of most losses. Expand Eliminating both is the correct answer. There’s no room for errors in this young team if they wanna even get past Liberty. Don’t make excuses for mistakes. griff and ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING 2 Quote
L-Train11 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 2:56 AM, Uncle Pig said: Going under center will eliminate pretty much all snapping issues...just saying Expand Not necessarily, you can fumble those as well.. remember the first drive in Jerry World last year? Either way, I hope they get it figured out so I have an excuse to make a trip to Dallas again! Quote
XX Man Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 12:01 PM, L-Train11 said: ! Expand On 10/24/2017 at 12:01 PM, L-Train11 said: Not necessarily, you can fumble those as well.. remember the first drive in Jerry World last year? Either way, I hope they get it figured out so I have an excuse to make a trip to Dallas again! Expand Every year, it is not only how good your team is, it is how not so good, the other teams are, that determine who goes to state. With that said, this team is making way too many mistakes to make it to Jerry's World, this year. Wish it was different. Quote
griff Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:09 AM, Uncle Pig said: Which is more important? Eliminating options or not turning the ball over? I'll go ahead and answer that one for you.....turnovers have got to be the number 1 cause of most losses. Expand The solution is fixing the bad snaps technique, NOT going under center for an entire four quarters. It is fixable and that should be the focus. Quote
XX Man Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 12:50 PM, griff said: The solution is fixing the bad snaps technique, NOT going under center for an entire four quarters. It is fixable and that should be the focus. Expand Yeah, it probably is fixable, but at this point of the season, and after how many games they have already played, I just don't see it getting fixed in a bye week, unless they change the style to a traditional snap, and forget trying to do that other mess. Quote
griff Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:43 AM, Uncle Pig said: All I know is WOS has incredible talent and can be just as successful under center as they are in the gun Expand Not true. If we drop use of the shotgun position, it will shrink our playbook and make our offense more predictable for defenses. We can go under center for some drives or consecutive plays, but if we do that the whole game it will limit our success. We have a good offensive threat when our QB has space to operate, run, make easy roll outs, and it gives him a better view of the opposing team's defense to make good decisions and reactions. That's a big reason why so many high school teams are now using it. I see value in going under center for only portions of a game. Our O-line and TBs can make the tough inside yardage. Quote
XX Man Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 12:59 PM, griff said: Not true. If we drop use of the shotgun position, it will shrink our playbook and make our offense more predictable for defenses. We can go under center for some drives or consecutive plays, but if we do that the whole game it will limit our success. We have a good offensive threat when our QB has space to operate, run, make easy roll outs, and it gives him a better view of the opposing team's defense to make good decisions and reactions. That's a big reason why so many high school teams are now using it. I see value in going under center for only portions of a game. Our O-line and TBs can make the tough inside yardage. Expand True, BUT, the center has to get the ball into his hands, AND the OL has to give him some protection. H-J defense had Watson running for his life......... Quote
EAGLEFOREVER Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 You can be coached but it is up to the individual to produce. Hopefully this was a wake up call that they need to produce in every game and not rely on the past. Quote
LC_throwback Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 WOS will be fine, snaps are fixable griff 1 Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 Maybe, just maybe that center was getting his arse whipped and was snapping fast and high to brace himself to take an impact or get the jump on a really good NT... 2wedge 1 Quote
purpleeagle Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 Not a problem with the center, it's the QB standing to close. He needs to move back about 40 yards. Problem solved. Silsbee92 and MrUmp1 2 Quote
wo-s#1 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:08 PM, BMTSoulja1 said: Maybe, just maybe that center was getting his arse whipped and was snapping fast and high to brace himself to take an impact or get the jump on a really good NT... Expand That may have had something to do with it against kennedale but it wasn't the case against hj BMTSoulja1 1 Quote
oldschool2 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 WOS would've made it at least to the state championship game last year even if they went under center every play of the season and ran the same play either direction. XX Man 1 Quote
XX Man Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:08 PM, BMTSoulja1 said: Maybe, just maybe that center was getting his arse whipped and was snapping fast and high to brace himself to take an impact or get the jump on a really good NT... Expand maybe, just maybe, that is not the case. Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 3:29 PM, wo-s#1 said: That may have had something to do with it against kennedale but it wasn't the case against hj Expand Ohh, ok... Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 5:56 PM, XX Man said: maybe, just maybe, that is not the case. Expand No, I wasn't being sarcastic, but it's usually the reason for snapping issues... Quote
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