Church Shooting in Sutherland Springs

[Hagar]

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Initial reports claim 20-24 killed and another 20 wounded.  Shooter was killed about 5 miles away

Prayers for the victims and their families.

Only way I can explain all these shootings is the devil is alive and well.  The fewer Christians there are, the more people are open to evil and demonic possession.  Churches, like schools, is normally a gun free environment.  Easy pickings.

[prepballfan]

Heartbreaking

 

[Hagar]

23 minutes ago, prepballfan said:

Heartbreaking

 

Amen brother, Amen.

[Big girl]

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I feel for the families of those who perished 

[LumRaiderFan]

Strength and prayers for that community.

[TxHoops]

Another “domestic terrorist.”  Doesn’t matter the race, religion, etc., a terrorist is a terrorist.  No need for a trial with this one. He’s already faced the ultimate trial I’m sure.  Hellfire cant be too hot for these evil SOBs... 

[Hagar]

4 hours ago, TxHoops said:

Another “domestic terrorist.”  Doesn’t matter the race, religion, etc., a terrorist is a terrorist.  No need for a trial with this one. He’s already faced the ultimate trial I’m sure.  Hellfire cant be too hot for these evil SOBs... 

However he died, it was much more merciful than how he would've died were I able to execute him as he deserved.  Long before death, he'd been praying for it.

Once again, our language fails me.  As dispicable and evil as what we normally label as terrorist are, at least they have a reason, although it's something we think is dispicable, and makes no sense to us.  The Las Vegas shooter, and this guy, just kill innocent people for no apparent reason.  I told my daughter yesterday evening that I hope it was a Muslim shooter because at least that would make sense - I could comprehend it, as dispicable as it may be.  Not like the recent Wal-Mart and Las Vegas shooters.  These 3 guys are worse than terrorist in my mind, but I'm at a loss for an appropriate word to reflect my thoughts.  Nearest thing would be an obscene laced rant.  

I know this post will confuse some of you.  I'm confused.  Just hope most of you will be able to grasp what I'm trying to say.  I'm filled with a gauntlet of emotions and my feeble brain is in overload.

[Reagan]

Very sad!  Prayers go to the families!

[Big girl]

4 hours ago, REBgp said:

However he died, it was much more merciful than how he would've died were I able to execute him as he deserved.  Long before death, he'd been praying for it.

Once again, our language fails me.  As dispicable and evil as what we normally label as terrorist are, at least they have a reason, although it's something we think is dispicable, and makes no sense to us.  The Las Vegas shooter, and this guy, just kill innocent people for no apparent reason.  I told my daughter yesterday evening that I hope it was a Muslim shooter because at least that would make sense - I could comprehend it, as dispicable as it may be.  Not like the recent Wal-Mart and Las Vegas shooters.  These 3 guys are worse than terrorist in my mind, but I'm at a loss for an appropriate word to reflect my thoughts.  Nearest thing would be an obscene laced rant.  

I know this post will confuse some of you.  I'm confused.  Just hope most of you will be able to grasp what I'm trying to say.  I'm filled with a gauntlet of emotions and my feeble brain is in overload.

4 hours ago, REBgp said:

However he died, it was much more merciful than how he would've died were I able to execute him as he deserved.  Long before death, he'd been praying for it.

Once again, our language fails me.  As dispicable and evil as what we normally label as terrorist are, at least they have a reason, although it's something we think is dispicable, and makes no sense to us.  The Las Vegas shooter, and this guy, just kill innocent people for no apparent reason.  I told my daughter yesterday evening that I hope it was a Muslim shooter because at least that would make sense - I could comprehend it, as dispicable as it may be.  Not like the recent Wal-Mart and Las Vegas shooters.  These 3 guys are worse than terrorist in my mind, but I'm at a loss for an appropriate word to reflect my thoughts.  Nearest thing would be an obscene laced rant.  

I know this post will confuse some of you.  I'm confused.  Just hope most of you will be able to grasp what I'm trying to say.  I'm filled with a gauntlet of emotions and my feeble brain is in 

[Big girl]

I read that the Las Vegas shooter was upset, because his business was losing money. That is not a reason to shoot people. It is a sad situation.

[stevenash]

2 hours ago, Big girl said:

I read that the Las Vegas shooter was upset, because his business was losing money. That is not a reason to shoot people. It is a sad situation.

Are you suggesting that, other than in self defense, there IS a reason to shoot people?

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[Tigers2010]

I hope this thread does not turn into a political debacle between folk on here. Those children and their families deserve better than that.

[Tigers2010]

This isn't about race, religion, or a mixture of the two. This isn't about gun laws and immigration screenings. Nothing can stop evil. Gun laws, screenings, social equiality, or this and that religion can not end evil. With God's grace and glory also comes sin and Satan. In the End, Good with triumph over Evil. I am praying for all who will suffer from this, especially those who lost children.

[Bigcam2903]

Wow, Prayers for All Families. What's really disheartening is I wasn't numb when I heard the news. So commonplace now, it's not shocking anymore. Prayers also for those in control of Mental Health Care

[TxHoops]

3 hours ago, Bigcam2903 said:

Wow, Prayers for All Families. What's really disheartening is I wasn't numb when I heard the news. So commonplace now, it's not shocking anymore. Prayers also for those in control of Mental Health Care

I had the same thought yesterday.  This attrocity happened in our State, a few hours away, in a house of worship.   And when I heard about it, I thought dear Lord, not another one.  I was saddened for the families and communities.  But not shocked in the least.  And that’s pretty sad as well...

[bullets13]

The bad thing is you can do your best, but no matter what laws are in place, there's very little that can be done to stop these mass killings.  whether it's an ideological terrorist attack, a mentally ill person, or someone who's just downright evil, there will always be people who slip through the cracks and perpetrate these terrible events.  And they'll use whatever weapon is available, be it gun, bomb, or vehicle to do so.  What a horrible situation.

[Reagan]

A "government" screw up allowed this to happen.  There are those that say government is the answer to all problems!

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[Reagan]

The Texas hero who stopped this thug was an NRA instructor.

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[Hagar]

18 hours ago, Tigers2010 said:

This isn't about race, religion, or a mixture of the two. This isn't about gun laws and immigration screenings. Nothing can stop evil. Gun laws, screenings, social equiality, or this and that religion can not end evil. With God's grace and glory also comes sin and Satan. In the End, Good with triumph over Evil. I am praying for all who will suffer from this, especially those who lost children.

Great post Tigers.  In my second post, I struggled to put a name on it worse than terrorist.  After reading yours, I think you've nailed it.  It's simply Evil.  In my first post, I alluded to the fact that the fewer Christians there are, the more people are open to evil and demonic possession.  I just read this link below, and imo, it's a key piece of the puzzle of why this happened.  Devin Kelley was an Atheist and believed, "People who believed in God were stupid".  Demonic possession may be something some of you don't believe in, but this action fits it in my mind.  It can happen to anyone, but more so to those who are atheists.  Had a Priest say it's dangerous for anyone that dwells in the dark arts (Ouija boards, Tarot cards).  True?  Idk, but it's very possible.

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[jv_coach]

On 11/7/2017 at 7:29 PM, Reagan said:

A "government" screw up allowed this to happen.  There are those that say government is the answer to all problems!

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The shooter at the Sutherland Springs Church was in the government at one point and time.....the government trained and taught and trained the shooter... we can go on, but for now this will do.

So imagine of only the government had the "bad and scary guns" what would have stopped this shooting? Nobody, know imagine the guy you despise politically having power and all the guns? Scary aint it?

[jv_coach]

On 11/7/2017 at 6:14 AM, REBgp said:

Great post Tigers.  In my second post, I struggled to put a name on it worse than terrorist.  After reading yours, I think you've nailed it.  It's simply Evil.  In my first post, I alluded to the fact that the fewer Christians there are, the more people are open to evil and demonic possession.  I just read this link below, and imo, it's a key piece of the puzzle of why this happened.  Devin Kelley was an Atheist and believed, "People who believed in God were stupid".  Demonic possession may be something some of you don't believe in, but this action fits it in my mind.  It can happen to anyone, but more so to those who are atheists.  Had a Priest say it's dangerous for anyone that dwells in the dark arts (Ouija boards, Tarot cards).  True?  Idk, but it's very possible.

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I think your onto something about demonic possession and the dangers in dabbling with the occult ( BTW New Agers use Yoga, it is all about finding your inner god spark) It all starts innocent, but gets crazy quick, and as always there will be those who profit of off people getting hooked in the new spirituality.

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